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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 16-Mar-12 09:50:41
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Re: Fibre Broadband


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It may be the case that BT are describing a REIN issue - so interference from somebody's electrical equipment is causing the issue in that area. We've seen a number of these cases over the years (due to faulty TVs, digital boxes, EPOS systems etc.) so it isn't outside the realms of possibility that this is the kind of issue being talked about. We've got a bit of an explanation of these issues here.

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Phil.
Standard User kitcat
(regular) Fri 16-Mar-12 11:14:56
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Re: Fibre Broadband


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If you are very close to the Airport, or the cable runs past/through the airport it is possible that all the lines will suffer from interference. Airports are notoriously busy electrical sources across the whole electro/magnatic spectrum.

If it is the Cable running past/through then Fibre should improve the position significantly. Finding the source of the interference would be a nightmare and this is likely to be only long term cure,

If you and the cable are nothing to do with the Airport look for a consistent source of electrical activity and this could be the source. ( Sub-station, factory, generators, etc).
Standard User Ripley
(committed) Fri 16-Mar-12 21:52:08
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Re: Fibre Broadband


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Why dont you tune your car radio to 600mhz am and have a drive around the estate? I believe ADSL works on 300mhz but you can hear it at double the frequency ie 600mhz.

When I do it and drive around the estate you can hear the adsl signal as you drive under the telegraph cables. At the top of the estate next to the PCP it buzzes like crazy as you drive over the E Side cables burried under the road.

You never know if its something like a faulty street light cuasing the REIN you may be able to hear it as you drive by.

My car radio only sets to a frequency near to 600mhz, I think its 616.

Only problem is im based up in Derbyshire and even up here you (depending on the weather) you can here some [censored] french radio station. At Crawley you are much closer to France so maybe you will hear it all the time there.

Give it a try, you dont know what you my suss out!

Paul

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Standard User Ripley
(committed) Fri 16-Mar-12 21:56:08
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Re: Fibre Broadband


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or get yourself a second hand YUPITERU MVT-7100 radio scanner from ebay, they are cheap enough now.

You could set that to the exact frequency and pin point things better.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 16-Mar-12 22:19:32
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Re: Fibre Broadband


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ADSL actually works in the range 25KHz to 1.1Mhz, ADSL2+ is up to 2.2MHz

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Standard User Ripley
(committed) Fri 16-Mar-12 22:32:12
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Strange you can def hear it at around 600mhx am on a radio

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 16-Mar-12 22:49:38
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Not strange at all, ADSL uses the full range of frequencies look at a bin plot to see this

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Standard User burakkucat
(committed) Fri 16-Mar-12 23:33:41
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In reply to a post by Ripley:
Why dont you tune your car radio to 600mhz am and have a drive around the estate? I believe ADSL works on 300mhz but you can hear it at double the frequency ie 600mhz.

. . .

My car radio only sets to a frequency near to 600mhz, I think its 616.
Somebody is confusing MHz with kHz.

The base fundamental frequency is 306 kHz but, for convenience, 612 kHz is used when seeking out sources of REIN, SHINE or PEIN with a domestic type of radio.

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Standard User Ripley
(committed) Sat 17-Mar-12 15:02:32
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thanks burakkucat


That will be me confusing MHZ & KHZ. Thats why I was puzzledwhen Mr Saffron told me the frequencies used. All makes sense now how you can hear it on the car radio

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Standard User NICK_ADSL_UK
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 17-Mar-12 16:34:55
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In reply to a post by SkyFire:
It may be the case that BT are describing a REIN issue - so interference from somebody's electrical equipment is causing the issue in that area. We've seen a number of these cases over the years (due to faulty TVs, digital boxes, EPOS systems etc.) so it isn't outside the realms of possibility that this is the kind of issue being talked about. We've got a bit of an explanation of these issues here.

ta,
Phil.


Hi Phil
The BT engineer called again yesterday and put in another master socket v10 and on leaving it was stable at 3mb he then went on to the main cabinet and screwed up our phone line so we were getting other peoples phone calls
The engineer called me today at 7am to apologise and said all was well and i was getting a speed of 5mb and could i go on line to confirm in which i did and it stayed up till 10am before going completely off line

I am now back on line but is intermittent

The technician at zen who i have spoken to today is insisting my master socket is in some way to blame despite me telling him that BT have replaced it twice over the past month and i also have had someone come over who specialises in communication to use one of his master sockets just in case BT had got a faulty batch ?

I for the life of me cant see this as the 4 year old problem for the estate which is just madness you couldn't make it up

As for the REIN that makes much more sense as some street light don't work and by looking at some other peoples set up which in my opinion is poor then yes REIN makes sense but i doubt very much any of my electrical equipment or mains is to blame but you can never tell despite all electrical equipment in my house being of the very finest quality or was at the time of manufacture

As for tracking it down that's best left to a REIN engineer and not for me as i don't have the right equipment

I have asked technical support to make sure that Richard tang be informed so he can make direct contact with his equivalent at BT and open reach so as to get to the bottom of this long running saga

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Edited by NICK_ADSL_UK (Sat 17-Mar-12 16:40:15)

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