My Fibre now activated

BT Openreach Engineer been here half an hour ago and change new master socket and faceplate (MK2) and using his tool kit reading line sync pass 79999K/20000K and plugged BTO Modem with my Netgear DGND3700v2 wireless router and got this speed result below:

http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3303398320

BTWholesale test is not working at present, so I cannot see exchange IP Profile yet.

All looking good so far

I dunno. You're missing 1K

Remember to write and thank Liv too...

I might ban him for not using our speed test

Looks a bit slow http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

I might ban him for not using our speed test

lol, here is my speedtest using your speedtest:

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

In reply to a post by WWWombat:

I dunno. You're missing 1K

Remember to write and thank Liv too...

Liv already left BT. She now with STW.

And the nice flat lines show it looks to running sweetly

Good result Adslmax.

I'm connected at full speed too. I'm getting 75 down 14 up on speedtest.net - 16ms ping.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

That tester is capable of more, browser performance can be an issue

Thanks. The Engineer told me that I am the first ever customer at the fibre cabinet (1 user so far) blimey. He told me that it will settle down in the next few days and advised me to leave it ON at all times.

Glad u got nice speed wolvesmad. I got BT HH5 but I haven't use it yet cos I am too scare that DLM might kick in and lower the speed if I swap it over. Best leave it alone.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

That tester is capable of more, browser performance can be an issue

Blimey crickey! lol

Do the lines automatically start in FAST mode?

It seems a decent piece of kit for wireless. The range on 2.4ghz is very good.

I didn't rate it on ADSL compared to my old Netgear but that's no good on fiber now.

The tester you are using will go faster, but the virtual PC I have access to is a shared resource, so not maxing out.

@ wolvesmad I have no idea if my fibre is on the Fast Mode. But I can see Plusnet choose 80/20 Standard mode but 72/17 I ain't complaint as long it remain stable and reliable with Plusnet. Far better than my virgin media high utilisation which drive me crazy with high ping over 300ms, speed drop from 126Meg to 1.7Meg. Never get fixed as a promise over the last 6 months. Glad they let me cancel it without penalty fee because after 7 times virgin tech guy come out unable to resolved it.

That's why I am pleased now to have reliable FTTC now.

Edited by adslmax (Thu 13-Feb-14 12:33:25)

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

That tester is capable of more, browser performance can be an issue

The tester may be, but my connection isn't

You need to update your signature too

I already done! thanks for remind me!

Congrats adslmax!

Any pics of the installation?

Thanks. Here is photo:

http://s5.postimg.org/wvp0wwjl3/20140213_134520.jpg

Silly question, why two powerplugs next to each other?

One for my daughter bedroom pc and one for my computer room pc. That's why I purchased two powerplug support 500Mbps link speed (gigabit lan) We both rather to have wired lan. But can use tablet, mobile phone for wifi.

I have now set up TBB BQM: http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/921644d571c...

Edited by adslmax (Thu 13-Feb-14 13:55:09)

How far would you say you are from your cabinet to get those speeds?

Cheers,
AP

In reply to a post by AndyPandy:

How far would you say you are from your cabinet to get those speeds?

Cheers,
AP

Engineer say within 200m away

But you will not get 2x500Mbps. The two will interfere with each other - just one at the switch would have been adequate.

Agreed

Thanks for advise. I will buy new ethernet cable (25 metre) and hook up the wall up to her bedroom. Then, I will take one homeplug removed from socket.

No,

Have 1 plug next your router as you do now, One in your room and one in hers.

I think you don't understand...

You have one HomePlug at the router, and each room can then have its own homeplug, so long as you remember to associate them together i.e. press their security button as per instructions.

In reply to a post by wolvesmad:

Do the lines automatically start in FAST mode?

Yes.

On FTTC, the line is in a mode that lets it go as fast as it can, without FEC or interleaving.

Unless it sees severe instability, DLM will leave you alone on the day of install, and the day afterwards. If it decides it is going to intervene, it will normally do so on the day after that (ie 2nd day after the install), between 1am and 7am usually.

If DLM intervenes, it might have to tune the setting it chooses on subsequent days.

So it is always good to try to get the IP profile value out of BT's speed tester during the first day or two, before DLM intervention, and again on the days after that.

Example:
On my first install at our old house, the initial install gave full sync speed, but 3-4% packet loss; DLM intervened (adding FEC + interleaving) after close to 48 hours. It dropped speed by about 3Mbps, but fixed the packet loss. This was then repeated a few days later, when my line was regraded from a 2Mbps upstream to 10Mbps upstream, and DLM was reset.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

I think you don't understand...

You have one HomePlug at the router, and each room can then have its own homeplug, so long as you remember to associate them together i.e. press their security button as per instructions.

Ok, I will take one homeplug off the router and put in my daughter bedroom. Yes, I will press button security.

Thanks MrSaffron.

You're not understanding.
One Homeplug at the router will feed many more. No need for ethernet cable, just remove one of the Homeplugs from your router.

If you are going to hard wire then DO IT PROPERLY.

Put a twin RJ45 socket close to the router and run two Cat5e cables (solid core infrastructure type) to her bedroom. Put another pair of sockets on the end and then use patch leads.

Done it now.

daughter bedroom and my room both work in seperator room. Thanks MrSaffron.
http://s5.postimg.org/z2t9ktovb/20140213_142749.jpg

In reply to a post by WWWombat:

In reply to a post by wolvesmad:

Do the lines automatically start in FAST mode?

Yes.

On FTTC, the line is in a mode that lets it go as fast as it can, without FEC or interleaving.

Unless it sees severe instability, DLM will leave you alone on the day of install, and the day afterwards. If it decides it is going to intervene, it will normally do so on the day after that (ie 2nd day after the install), between 1am and 7am usually.

If DLM intervenes, it might have to tune the setting it chooses on subsequent days.

So it is always good to try to get the IP profile value out of BT's speed tester during the first day or two, before DLM intervention, and again on the days after that.

Example:
On my first install at our old house, the initial install gave full sync speed, but 3-4% packet loss; DLM intervened (adding FEC + interleaving) after close to 48 hours. It dropped speed by about 3Mbps, but fixed the packet loss. This was then repeated a few days later, when my line was regraded from a 2Mbps upstream to 10Mbps upstream, and DLM was reset.

Interesting. I'm on full sync at the moment, i'll set up BQM like adslmax has on my line later and see how things go during the night.

At the moment there is only another line connected to my FTTC cab so cross talk should not be a problem.

In reply to a post by WWWombat:

In reply to a post by wolvesmad:

Do the lines automatically start in FAST mode?

Yes.

On FTTC, the line is in a mode that lets it go as fast as it can, without FEC or interleaving.

Unless it sees severe instability, DLM will leave you alone on the day of install, and the day afterwards. If it decides it is going to intervene, it will normally do so on the day after that (ie 2nd day after the install), between 1am and 7am usually.

If DLM intervenes, it might have to tune the setting it chooses on subsequent days.

So it is always good to try to get the IP profile value out of BT's speed tester during the first day or two, before DLM intervention, and again on the days after that.

Example:
On my first install at our old house, the initial install gave full sync speed, but 3-4% packet loss; DLM intervened (adding FEC + interleaving) after close to 48 hours. It dropped speed by about 3Mbps, but fixed the packet loss. This was then repeated a few days later, when my line was regraded from a 2Mbps upstream to 10Mbps upstream, and DLM was reset.

I take this as confirmation that a regrade resets DLM.

In which case if openreach contracts ever go down to 1 month, then isp's can routenly regrade lines to reset DLM? As I am assuming regrades initiate new openreach contracts.

I had phoned up plusnet and they say I can try BT Home Hub 5 as DLM won't kick in the day after installed. Worth a try out. .

So, I plugged BT Home Hub 5 and finally seen the line stats:

Speedtest with BT HH5: http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3303896387

BT HH5 line stats: http://s5.postimg.org/anpmxifc7/BT_Home_Hub_5.jpg

Edited by adslmax (Thu 13-Feb-14 15:31:55)

Nice attainable figures there, should give some room for crosstalk before it affects your sync.

I am going to try my spare unlocked BT Openreach Modem and see what the different. I won't be using BT Home Hub 5 because they don't support TBB BQM and dreaded BT auto updated firmware (cannot disabled it)

Edited by adslmax (Thu 13-Feb-14 15:44:26)

The BT HH5 is rather poor on TBB speedtest http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

How did you get those line stats adslmax?

In reply to a post by wolvesmad:

How did you get those line stats adslmax?

VDSL Line stats from Hub 5 - Helpdesk section

The line stats are the same on unlocked BTO modem. So, I am please to hear that noise margin had plenty of room for crosstalk, I stick with BTO modem and Netgear router for now. And leave it alone. Happy with 72/17 overall.

Or some congestion/management was kicking in slowing down the single thread.

Not that any other speed test would have shown that.

In reply to a post by adslmax:

I have now set up TBB BQM: http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/921644d571c...

That link is dead. Did you set up an static IP address with Plusnet for your new connection? (That's assuming you had one before and it isn't being used for the FTTC).

I got static ip as I deleted it and create a new one. Because I had a play with BT HH5, BTO unlocked modem and now went back to as it was BTO / Netgear router. Going to leave it alone now. Because I already know the line stats that why.

The new link here: http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/d69f7c149f8...

Edited by adslmax (Thu 13-Feb-14 20:19:21)

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

Looks a bit slow http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

Mine is awful on the TBB tester for some reason. 6 threaded test only would be handy mind.

Off the HH5 itself? I can't find them

In reply to a post by R0NSKI:

Nice attainable figures there, should give some room for crosstalk before it affects your sync.

Took ~120 connections to take me from 99.8Mb to 75Mb attainable. Still on full speeds though as modem hasn't resynched

You have to be using the HH5 as a modem then look in Troubleshooting/Helpdesk

Was Maximum data rate 104409k any good with line attenuation 10.6dB and noise margain 12.8dB for future crosstalk or vectoring VDSL?

Found it now cheers.

My exchange appear to be congested now (can't believed it)

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

Are you using wireless or wired in?

Wired gigabit lan

Mines not http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html... , at least not at my speed, also on PlusNet

Do u think I could be banded profile by plusnet?

I'm only getting 40mb on the speedtester too adslmax.

I'm getting 75.5 on the BT wholesale speedtester and downloading at 8.6Mb/s.

Try downloading a test file.

ADSL that is incorrect she is joing STW but not yet

Strange odd, I put BT Hub 5 back in stand alone....got this better speed, much better: http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

I can feel BT Openreach Modem get hot! (probably problem with unlocked version)

Edited by adslmax (Thu 13-Feb-14 21:35:45)

I can feel BT Openreach Modem get hot!

Though I'll get shouted at for saying it, I still think they run cooler wall mounted.

Everything seem normal now stay steady 72Mbps on BT Hub 5. I stick with that for now. I don't understand why BTO Modem get hot (it was much cooler in the hallway)

Edited by adslmax (Thu 13-Feb-14 21:47:08)

I was just wondering guys and girls, how good are the BT Openreach and HH5 modems?

It's just that someone replied to a question I had, about whether BT's equipment either at home or in the exchange could be the result why I had lower speeds than with Be. The reply said that it could be that the modem used by Be had better compatibility with my PC / line.

According to the BT checker, I'm due to get FTTC enabled in May, but I was hoping that some can give me an insight into the equipment that they use. Is it any good? Do you get poorer results than with other modems etc?

The reason I ask is that I'm reluctant to go onto Infinity 2 if the equipment is slower than others. Also I believe that the VDSL DSLAM connected to my cabinet is an ECI. Does this affect which modem I should get?

Many thanks guys!

BT Openreach gave me ECI modem as my cabinet probably doesn't like it. My BT Home Hub 5 seem all ok now and top speed
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3304341113

Edited by adslmax (Thu 13-Feb-14 22:06:25)

In reply to a post by adslmax:

The new link here: http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/d69f7c149f8...

That doesn't work either. A static IP is something you have to pay Plusnet £5 for. Unless you do that your IP address will change every time you change or reboot your router!

You have changed both the modem and router since you set up that BQM. You haven't got a static IP address. You can request it in your Member Centre, it gets allocated immediately, then you just disconnect the PPP session for a minute and then reconnect. That gives you the new one and you can set up your BQM correctly.

TBB BQM won't work with BT Home Hub 5. That's the problem. I do have my Static IP address. Brought it one off £5 last year.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

I can feel BT Openreach Modem get hot!

Though I'll get shouted at for saying it, I still think they run cooler wall mounted.

They certainly do when mounted on edge - as they would be when wall mounted. The vents allow an airflow through the modem whereas flat or horizontal does not.

This is true . I'd forgotten that. No point in setting them up and posting links then .

No a banded profile would not wander around and still give a good peak speed.

Again a good number of speed tests would mask that sort of variation and leave you feeling warm inside with a good figure.

Living in blissful ignorance on the grounds that if it seems to be working it's probably okay is also a great way to go.

My BT Home Hub 5 was stable overnight and the speed is also rock solid.
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3305541774

No disconnected yet so far.

Edited by adslmax (Fri 14-Feb-14 12:48:43)

I think it's great that everyone on cable forum has stopped picking on you now you've shut them up by proving them wrong.

It says it's against their rules to allow exactly what that hugh has done. I hope now you are not on cable you won't give them the time of day - they don't deserve it!

My cable going off this Sunday 16th February. So, I am no longer with Virgin Media. Thankfully they let me go 6 months earlier because tech guy had told virgin media that my area is very high utilisation and no fix time slot (it's haven't been fixed for the last 6 months)

Edited by adslmax (Fri 14-Feb-14 13:15:58)

Post deleted by cisco_kid75

In reply to a post by adslmax:

Liv already left BT. She now with STW.

Not just yet! I've been exchanging emails with her and Richard Hall (Project Director for FTTx) during most of this week.

I wish I could speak with them. my cab left out everyone around me got it. Not happy this is suburbia!

In reply to a post by cisco_kid75:

In reply to a post by adslmax:

Liv already left BT. She now with STW.

Not just yet! I've been exchanging emails with her and Richard Hall (Project Director for FTTx) during most of this week.

You got the same as mine, Liv and Richard Hall always reply to my case during FTTC planned.

I am surprise that Richard and Liv had reply to me yesterday that they can see my fibre is now activated and told me enjoy your new superfast broadband. Nice of them.

Edited by adslmax (Fri 14-Feb-14 15:21:16)

any chance you can e-mail them and ask if they would be able to see if they do something for us?

In reply to a post by Iluv4G:

any chance you can e-mail them and ask if they would be able to see if they do something for us?

I ask Richard for you as he reply very quick.

Thanks.

I appreciate it no matter what he says.

Richard say you can email him directly. So, I have sent u PM. Good luck mate.

thank you

My BT Home Hub 5 seem more stable now for 18 hours ongoing.

VDSL uptime: 0 days, 18:23:00
Data rate: 19999 / 79995
Maximum data rate: 35645 / 103664
Noise margin: 23.3 / 12.7
Line attenuation: 0.0 / 10.6
Signal attenuation: 0.0 / 10.6

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

http://s5.postimg.org/ivrkii78n/20140214_155119.jpg

10.6 db line attenuation? I thought you were very close to the cab?

In reply to a post by wolvesmad:

10.6 db line attenuation? I thought you were very close to the cab?

I thought that too. But, I ain't complaint as I got maximum sync rate anyway. Maybe the phone line not straight to the cabinet. Engineer say yesterday it was within 200m from the cabinet.

Just looking this up: http://www.thinkbroadband.com/guide/fibre-broadband....

within 150m getting 80/20 so maybe engineer is correct to say I am within 200m away from cabinet. But, surprise still getting full sync rate 79995k as BT estimated does metion 79.9Mb.

Edited by adslmax (Fri 14-Feb-14 16:37:49)

that is showing off

He asks for it. Lying about FTTC availability over here won't help him.

Liv left us today she sent me a text and e mail .

Post deleted by btbert

My daughter watch netflix and I use my pc in my computer room. Not bad for evening peak time!

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

In reply to a post by btbert:

Liv left us today she sent me a text and e mail .

This is correct

How can you confirm that Liv sent btbert a text and email?

Or all this time have you been hiding from us the fact that your online presence is a brilliant cover for your employment by GCHQ?

It's appear that BT Home Hub 5 line attenuation was bug.

I had a snapshot from unlocked BTO Modem HG612 below:
http://postimg.org/image/93kaz46xv/full/

Edited by adslmax (Fri 14-Feb-14 21:19:44)

Maybe the HG612 has the bug?

I'm thinking that the Huawei's report of attenuation of zero might be the bug.

Yeah u could be right there.

I'm gutted, she only sent me an e-mail ........ no text at all. Mind you, Bert has always been a ladies man

Here is short video of my fttc speedtest: http://tinypic.com/r/23mtpgx/8

Maybe the Valentine card she sent you instead got lost in the post.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Maybe the Valentine card she sent you instead got lost in the post.

lol

Here is a picture, a farewell to Liv Garfield. http://postimg.org/image/lg9yne9qt/

thanks for your intervention. Richard is looking into my case on Monday. If he can't help then I will move to get FTTC I have decided.

In reply to a post by Iluv4G:

thanks for your intervention. Richard is looking into my case on Monday. If he can't help then I will move to get FTTC I have decided.

Brill news mate. He will sort it out for you.

Well i hope so, assuming my cab is viable. i suspect most people have phone with virgin so they might not think it worth while, having said that the other areas had the same too and they got it.

All I can do is hope and prey something can be done. Ill keep you posted

ive just been out and an engineer is working on a line, I walked past. (which took me a while being old) but there looks like a few hundred lines on it. so that's a good bit of hope

Edited by deleted (Sat 15-Feb-14 17:26:54)

First time I managed to get my full line stats off HG612 Modem (unlocked)

http://postimg.org/image/7px9hjx2b/full/

http://postimg.org/image/dpl0l7hur/full/

So, I haven't got a clue if this line stats any good or bad? What does interleaving Off (1) mean? - does it mean it on the FAST mode?

Edited by adslmax (Sun 16-Feb-14 14:30:18)

In reply to a post by adslmax:

So, I haven't got a clue if this line stats any good or bad?

Looks very good. Don't understand why you don't get an attenuation number, my hacked HG612 does. Maybe yours has the older firmware. (do you still have a web interface, and do you have the BTagent running to upgrade it?)

What does interleaving Off (1) mean? - does it mean it on the FAST mode?

I think off is the same as fast isn't it? I assume the (1) means a depth of one, because my line has an interleave of 1030.

In the first image, in the top middle section, there is a D: 1 and that is the interleave depth. 1 meaning no interleave. Mine is 1051 down, and 1 up.

(I use dslstats, the competing tool, but the information is the same).

My HG612 hacked firmware is A2pv6C035m.d22g is that the latest firmware?

It looks like he is still on the original unlocked firmware, unless BT agent is disabled sooner or later it will get updated - nothing to worry about. The webpage will be lost, but all the information you need is in the GUI program which will still work.

There is a later version of the firmware with the GUI enabled, look in the experimental folder that is linked to from this post.

jchamier is correct, interleaving depth of 1 is fast path.

I use this firmware: bcm96368MVWG_fs_kernel_HG612V100R001C01B028SP10_no-btagent - B028SP10 based firmware.

http://postimg.org/image/v5f6mwgtf/full/

Yes that is the newer firmware with BT Agent disabled, and no web page.

Depressingly good statistics.

Zero CRC errors downstream in 9.5 hours.

In reply to a post by WWWombat:

Depressingly good statistics.

Zero CRC errors downstream in 9.5 hours.

Funny one person say from ocuk forum that my line stats look awful and need to raise openreach / isp. He probably jealous?

In reply to a post by adslmax:

Funny one person say from ocuk forum that my line stats look awful and need to raise openreach / isp. He probably jealous?

Sounds like the person on OCUK is trolling you

In reply to a post by WWWombat:

Depressingly good statistics.

Zero CRC errors downstream in 9.5 hours.

It now 8 on CRC errors downstream after 14 hours (street lightning might cause this) it jump from 0 to 8 after 5pm. But, it stay at 8 ever since.

http://postimg.org/image/x8dwxq9xt/full/

Those stats look very strong. I can't see crosstalk having an impact on your sync speed at all.

I've noticed a few more HomeHub 5's appearing in my wireless network list. My max attainable rate is gradually dropping as more lines are hooked up to the cab.

In reply to a post by wolvesmad:

Those stats look very strong. I can't see crosstalk having an impact on your sync speed at all.

I've noticed a few more HomeHub 5's appearing in my wireless network list. My max attainable rate is gradually dropping as more lines are hooked up to the cab.

I had dumped BT Home Hub 5 because it rebooting itself last night until I read from BT Community Forum that peoples complaint of BT Home Hub 5 rebooting every night (checking firmware) that's has put me off. I went back to BT Openreach Modem HG612 (unlocked) with Netgear DGND3700v2 Router and it now ongoing stable for 14 hours and these should avoid any rebooting itself.

Wolvesmad is your BT Home Hub 5 rebooting itself last night? U can check it under helpdesk log file.As you don't want to see your BT Home Hub 5 rebooting every night that might trigger your DLM.

Edited by adslmax (Sun 16-Feb-14 19:29:41)

No it seems to have been up for nearly 4 days now. I'm not particularly happen with the wireless performance of it though. Only getting about 50Mb over wifi.

They are good and you know they are

especially as his attenuation is very close to mine yet I have an attainable almost 40mbit lower on the downstream.

openreach have openly told my isp they wont be doing a pair swap or any other kind of cabling change on the basis that other circuits "will" degrade, that comment suggests to me my d-side is broken if they know before hand other circuits will degrade from such work. This was after an engineer admitted to me is probably cabling issues but he didnt want to be bothered to look for them instead telling me I have to wait for the line to practically stop working so the tester units pick it up.