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Just being curious, I checked with the ADSL checker to see if their estimates have been updated for my estate as they were very conservative with an estimate for me of 35Mbps but I get about 65Mbps. Anyhow, that's besides the point. To my surprise, this is what it now says:
Telephone Number 0183484XXXX on Exchange TENBY is served by Cabinet 3
Featured Products
Downstream Line Rate(Mbps)
Upstream Line Rate(Mbps)
Downstream Range(Mbps)
Availability Date
High Low High Low
FTTC Range A (Clean) 55.3 35.7 13.9 8.3 -- Available
FTTC Range B (Impacted) 46.5 27.4 13.7 6.1 -- Available
WBC ADSL 2+ Up to 15 -- 12.5 to 17 Available
WBC ADSL 2+ Annex M Up to 15 Up to 1 12.5 to 17 Available
ADSL Max Up to 8 -- 7 to 8 Available
WBC Fixed Rate 2 -- -- Available
Fixed Rate 2 -- -- Available
Other Offerings
FTTP on Demand 330 30 -- Available
Fibre Multicast -- -- -- Available
Copper Multicast -- -- -- Available
Does that mean that n theory, I could order FOD? If so, that would obviously incur costs i.e digging up roads wouldn't it?
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It might mean that.
If you haven't seen these articles they might be worth a read.
BT Wholesale FOD Price List
And Temporary hold on new fibre on demand FTTP orders
Tim
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Hi timl
That temporary hold was dated January this year so it might be a little old. Also, I checked last week on the checker and FOD wasn't available as I WOULD have noticed 
I was told by a BT Engineer a couple of months ago that they were possibly going to trial something (he was very vague!) at my exchange so maybe that it?!?
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That's the Openreach Price List, not BT Wholesale. I've never managed to find a BT Wholesale one.
The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 59999/14372kbps @ 600m. - BQM
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There are experiments going on to do with a cheaper version of FTTPoD. I can't put a finger on a search term for the News Archive, but I'm sure Andrew has mentioned it a few times.
There's also Long range VDSL2.
The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 59999/14372kbps @ 600m. - BQM
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http://blog.thinkbroadband.com/2015/09/g-fast-and-fo...
Probably what you wanted to find.
FoD orders are still on hold, or were when I asked that question on 23rd September 2015, its one of my regular ones.
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Thanks Roberto - perhaps Andrew will pick this up in a bit and have some possible answers. It would be nice to get a little more on what this means the me. I wonder if Ribble would have any inside info?
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Thanks for that Andrew. Very interesting. Is there any way of finding out if they've extended a trial to my area? Just seems strange the checker suddenly says fttpod available if it isn't. Don't think it's a checker error as other exchanges around here don't see to be showing it.
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Loads of exchanges have had it on them for years, down to the retail ISP to interpret for you.
The trial areas don't show up on the checker as such, the providers taking part know the trial areas and should be pro-actively contacting potential customers to volunteer
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For you now it means nothing, just that things may change in the future.
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What exactly makes a normal FTTC cab have FTTP on demand available as well? I take it must be certain areas?
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Nothing particularly special, as the build with respect to fibre and aggregation nodes is the same for all cabinets, i.e. the basis of a national FTTP roll-out has reached almost 70,000 street cabinets.
The availability of fibre on demand was usually driven by having staff and planning resources in an area to actually deliver, and some areas had FoD as a requirement of the BDUK contract - so the rush is on to get FoD2 out there, but as you can see from the blog the change with could knock a lot of time off final install time.
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and some areas had FoD as a requirement of the BDUK contract
Perhaps @WelshAWrrior is in Wales ... Wasn't there some agreement between Wales & BT that FoD would become orderable in Wales again, even while they hadn't sorted out the FoD2 trials...
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It is wait and see time, rather than feed rumour machine
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Perhaps @WelshAWrrior is in Wales ... Wasn't there some agreement between Wales & BT that FoD would become orderable in Wales again, even while they hadn't sorted out the FoD2 trials...
For what it's worth, I just checked a relative's phone number in North Wales (Halkyn exchange) - their cabinet was very recently (last few weeks) enabled for FTTC, and it's now showing FTTP on Demand as being available (which wasn't showing a few weeks ago). It's not showing up on my number in Aberdeenshire.
It's somewhat academic anyway, as neither of us would likely be willing to pay the huge fees for FTTPoD even if it was possible to order it...
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I am indeed in Wales and have just signed up to FTTPod trial via Plusnet after speaking to the CS team.
BUT I can now see that it isn't for Fibre on demand - just FTTP enabled areas so the CS rep wasn't really giving me the whole truth!! I'll wait and see what they come back with.
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What's the page to check my number in?
I've been on it before ages ago but can't remember the address.
Demon => Freeserve => Pipex => Be => Sky => BT Infinity 2
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Here
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Thanks mate.
Demon => Freeserve => Pipex => Be => Sky => BT Infinity 2
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If they do take your order are you all set to pay £200+ a month alongside deep 4-figures for install on a 36 month contract?
As far as I'm aware Plusnet are not taking FoD orders and haven't since the initial trials. It's a business product, hence the 36 month contract, with those in the Superconnected Cities areas, hence the high install charge, in mind.
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On the trial signup page, it states the following:
Plusnet Unlimited Fibre Extra up to 76Mbps - £19.99 per month
Setup charge - free
Speed - up to 76Mbps down, up to 19.5Mbps up
Contract - no change to your existing contract period
Usage - Unlimited
Router - free 3 port wireless
This product is the same as our FTTC Unlimited Fibre product only with FTTP.
Note the free setup. But as I said above, it seems that this is only for FTTP enabled cabs, not mine which is showing FTTPod available. This is where the CD rep messed up so I'll just wait to see what they come back with.
An OR engineer told me a few weeks ago that there is an upcoming trial that Tenby may be involved in and that I sign up to via my ISP so time will tell. The way Plusnet staff are going mind you, they'll probably be the last to know about any trials
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Edited by WelshWArrior (Tue 06-Oct-15 14:10:06)
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I believe the product you are linking to is for FTTP sites, FoD is a different beast altogether.
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Yeah I realised that after filling out the application for the trial. BUT that was the link the Plusnet reps gave me after discussing it with them. You think they'd know better.
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Yeah I realised that after filling out the application for the trial. BUT that was the link the Plusnet reps gave me after discussing it with them. You think they'd know better.
Plusnet used to have a small team who did the FTTP stuff for them, but I've not spoken with them for some time, so am unsure if they still exist. You'd have hoped that if they are still there, they would understand the product in all it guises and at least prepare a brief for the CS star to refer to when questioned.
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Quite! As you are in an FTTC area filing in forms to go on the Plusnet FTTP trial isn't going to get any results.
The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 59999/14372kbps @ 600m. - BQM
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They still have the team as far as i'm aware, but I think it's only 2 or 3 people, which would explain the up to 2 week wait before they even place an order with Openreach.
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It is wait and see time, rather than feed rumour machine
I'm not sure I was feeding a rumour machine exactly ... just making a reference back to the news articles earlier this summer. Such as the update at the end of this one:
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/7038-42-000-more-...
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They still have the team. I had a reply from them yesterday afternoon. They confirmed they do not currently offer FTTPoD but are in the process of reviewing this to see if it's financially viable based on interest shown.
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And all because BT love Wales fibre on demand is back - http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2015/10/bt-resu...
Edited by Spud2003 (Sat 10-Oct-15 12:08:40)
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Appearing as an option on the checker is not proof of it being available to order, plenty of addresses where is has been available for the many months orders were on hold.
Have pestered the right people on a Saturday to find out more.
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As I pointed out to ISPReview before, I could see no notifications or briefings from OR that they had stopped selling or providing FOD (in fact they kept releasing FOD enabled exchange lists).
BT Wholesale do not seem to have released their stop-sell when I checked this morning.
I would be interested to know who ISPReview talk to at BT in order to get these news articles.
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