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Surely the pictures in Section 2 of this document are wrong? Are there even two different ONTs?
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Yes there are two ... I have seen pictures of Huawei installs and know that BT used ECI for their original trials and signed a large contract a few years back with ECI. Whether they are still installing, I don't know. That document is actually from 2013 so may or maynot reflect current processes.
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Neither of those two boxes look like the one in the current developer's guide for fibre.
http://www.newdevelopments-openreach.co.uk/Developer...
The picture at the bottom of page 2 does seem to show the right ports, on a curvier box than either of those at the top. In fact, the Huawei box looks rather similar to my FTTC modem.
Note, though, that the marketing insert is old, dating back to 2013.
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(@ both)
The picture of the ONT in Section 1 is what I expect. Section 2 are the FTTC modems and I'm sure simply should never have been there. Probably a page revamp (copy/paste) error.
I agree the Section 3 pic is correct and will tally will Section 1.
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Well mine's different to all of the images referred to in this thread!
Edited by Rastus (Fri 20-Nov-15 19:54:32)
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"These are currently either Huawei or ECI models, as shown
in the diagram above and the images left, but the style and
design
may vary"
IE they dont all look the same !
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Come on Bert. Those are bog standard FTTC modems. Surely there's no way the insides of one of those could be replaced with optical termination kit?
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I have that style of FTTP ONT as shown in the new developments guide which was installed back in early 2013.
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Would anybody be able to point me towards any pricing information for these services. Just put a deposit down on a new build and got that very 2 page document #pleasantlysuprised 
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If your property is having native FTTP then the 40 and 80 Meg service are identical pricing to the FTTC based services, but two faster options exist.
The choice of retailer is limited as many don't bother with FTTP, so simplest is BT Retail and http://www.thinkbroadband.com/isp/bt.html lists Infinity 1,2,3 & 4 when you click through to BT site it usually will not show 3 & 4 option unless the phone number or address you have entered has live native FTTP available to it.
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So £50 should get me unlimited speed and unlimited downloads?
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Not unlimited speed, whatever speed you buy, but Infinity 4 at 300 Mbps is unlimited downloads and £50/month plus voice line rental.
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Sorry I meant unlimited up to the service provision limit. Am I right that there are no attenuation issues as its a "full" fibre cable and that I should get the full 300 straight away, but there may be a reduction in speed over time as a result of contention?
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Pay for 300 Mbps and yes it will always connect at 300 Mbps.
Speeds from various websites will of course vary, and contention will be a factor, but buying the faster FTTP gets you a slightly higher priority if things do get really busy.
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What do you think of the pictures linked to in my OP please Andrew? (Sections 1 and 3 are fine, it's Section 2 I think is garbage).
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I'm not losing sleep over them
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The question is, are they rubbish? I'm not expecting you to get OR to fix it .
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Not looked close enough to absolutely confirm whether copper port or fibre connector present
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I think in section 2 the Huawei is wrong (FTTC) and the ECI is right (FTTP)
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You could be right there.
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So if I want faster than 78 I've really got to stick with BT but if I wanted to switch to Sky to take advantage of their soon to be available Q service and all its features I'd have to take their fastest current FTTC service? I assume this would be the mirror of Infinity 2 and then I'd have to wait for the possibility of them providing FTTP speeds at a later date?
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If your property has native FTTP available (then apart from a few 100 premises in the UK) you will NOT have the option of FTTC. Sky has chosen to not sell any service 40/80/100/200 or 300 where native FTTP is supplied, same with Sky
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I don't know what the Q service is, but Sky fibre broadband is using Openreach GEA. Whether you can get FTTC or FTTP is a binary choice/decision made by Openreach at the time they enable your cabinet.
There is currently no upgrade path between the two. That will only come years in the future when all the copper lines get scrapped. If you are on FTTC with anyone then that's the best you can have.
There is what is called FTTPoD, (oD = on Demand), available from a few suppliers, but it is hideously expensive at well over £700 installation cost (up to several thousand depending on distance from an aggregation point) and subject to feasibility survey. Not only that, but I believe Openreach have "temporarily" suspended sales while they try to find a better alternative.
AIUI Sky do not do the normal FTTP anyway. Their FTTC Pro is in effect a mirror of Infinity 2, just different freebies.
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Ok, so BT or bust
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I don't know what the Q service is
SkyQ was announced last week. New Sky boxes with 4 tuners and streaming services. They also allow you to access your content from other devices in the house (such as tablets, phones and new "receiver" boxes that take their content from the main box). There is a new router as well for Sky Broadband customers that allows the SkyQ receiver/extension boxes to also act as wifi repeaters.
The top end box also does 4K.
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Ok, so BT or bust ?
Have you read my post? If you can get FTTC now, then FTTP from BT is not an option. And if you can get FTTP then FTTC from Sky is not an option.
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Edited by RobertoS (Mon 23-Nov-15 15:26:18)
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SkyQ will still work on other broadband connections. It is only the router that they are doing that is specific to Sky broadband. The actual TV set top box, the distribution boxes, the ability to stream to tablet/phone, etc will all work on other ISPs (they can't do anything else or they will seriously limit their audience).
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I'd say it was duff photo's, I believe both those pictured in section 2 to be VDSL modems.
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Ummm. As I said earlier, I think BatBoy was right.
The Huawei is definitely an HG612. The ECI has far more lights than the ECI modem. Also more ports and one that looks like the fibre of of the unit in Section 1.
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Sorry, if I want the 330mbit service the only provider at present is BT is what I meant
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I've seen the kit installed in a site show house, I'll try and get some photos next time I'm there. The main unit on the wall which I assume was the modem was larger than the FTTC one I've currently, it had rounded edges and was slimmer and the size of a small dinner plate
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Reading some of the literature it appears that all that is lost by not have Sky as your ISP is that you can't use Sky's proprietory Powerline protocol and the ability to use the all the Sky TV boxes as repeater/extenders.
Apologies for thread drift
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I've seen the kit installed in a site show house, I'll try and get some photos next time I'm there. The main unit on the wall which I assume was the modem was larger than the FTTC one I've currently, it had rounded edges and was slimmer and the size of a small dinner plate So you are thinking about your next address, not your current one . That would have made things clearer if we'd known  .
See the pic in Section 1 at the start of the page linked to in the OP here. Section 2 ECI may also apply. Section 2 Huawei is almost certainly not an ONT, just an FTTC modem.
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So you are thinking about your next address, not your current one . That would have made things clearer if we'd known .
We did know - it was inferred in this post
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