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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 05-Oct-17 16:38:15
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Which VDSL faceplate?


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Looking at replacing my NTE2005 'ADSL V1.0' faceplate with a VDSL faceplate prior to self-install of Sky Fibre next week.

Which one would be best. I'm looking at some on Amazon. These are the two I've found and want some advice.

Link 1

Link 2

Any differences between the two that I need to look out for?

Are they a worthwhile upgrade over my old ADSL v1.0 faceplate?

Other suggested ones?

Thanks.
Standard User j0hn83
(committed) Thu 05-Oct-17 16:59:13
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Personally, neither.
I would go with an OpenReach MK3
Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 05-Oct-17 16:59:50
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Agreed some on Ebay new.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 05-Oct-17 17:05:04
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I did look at those.

I would need the faceplate (With RJ45 connector) and also the telephone connector part too right?
Standard User j0hn83
(committed) Thu 05-Oct-17 17:08:50
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If you have a standard NTE5A Master socket then you will only need the MK3 SSFP, providing you haven't thrown away the lower faceplate which you removed to fit the ADSL SSFP.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 05-Oct-17 17:13:22
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Was already like that when moved into the house so no don't have the lower faceplate anymore.

Would this work?

Of course I'd just use the lower faceplate and MK3 SSFP,
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 05-Oct-17 18:19:55
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The parts should just plug in and no need to play with the back box part, which as a consumer you are not meant to fiddle with anyway.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 05-Oct-17 18:23:42
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Will order one of those then.

Thank you all.
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 05-Oct-17 20:03:21
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Is there extension wiring connected on the rear of the current SSFP ? If so, you�ll need a kroning tool to transfer those from the old to the new front plate.

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 05-Oct-17 20:09:14
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There is yes and ordered one alongside the MK3 SSFP (And front lower faceplate), thanks for the heads up anyway smile
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 05-Oct-17 20:57:25
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You could try the master socket 5C and MK4 face plate.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 05-Oct-17 21:08:18
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That would require a full master socket change though would it not?
Standard User 4M2
(knowledge is power) Thu 05-Oct-17 21:14:39
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In reply to a post by WilliamGrimsley:
You could try the master socket 5C and MK4 face plate.


That's a ridiculous suggestion!
Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Thu 05-Oct-17 21:21:30
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In reply to a post by 4M2:
In reply to a post by WilliamGrimsley:
You could try the master socket 5C and MK4 face plate.


That's a ridiculous suggestion!

Agreed, the amount of times a friends girlfriend round the corner from me has knocked off the faceplate(s) of an NTE5C Master socket with the hoover when cleaning.

I say stay with the NTE5a and get a MK3 xDSL Filter faceplate.

Paul

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Standard User 4M2
(knowledge is power) Thu 05-Oct-17 21:26:18
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In reply to a post by PaulKirby:
...the amount of times a friends girlfriend round the corner from me has knocked off the faceplate(s) of an NTE5C Master socket with the hoover when cleaning


Next time go round there armed with some supa glue LOL
Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Thu 05-Oct-17 21:48:24
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In reply to a post by 4M2:
In reply to a post by PaulKirby:
...the amount of times a friends girlfriend round the corner from me has knocked off the faceplate(s) of an NTE5C Master socket with the hoover when cleaning


Next time go round there armed with some supa glue LOL

I told my mate to stick a dining chair in front of it when she gets the hoover out LOL

I have only needed to go round there 3 times when they saw some hanging off wires.

But I think she is more careful when she hoovers in that area tongue

Paul

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Standard User 4M2
(knowledge is power) Thu 05-Oct-17 22:14:50
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In reply to a post by PaulKirby:
I have only needed to go round there 3 times when they saw some hanging off wires.


Good thing that she didn't bump the hover into it too hard - the components in the NTE5C itself are not soldered into position (just a press fit) and could be dislodged, that might result in a very expensive repair.
Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Thu 05-Oct-17 23:03:27
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In reply to a post by 4M2:
In reply to a post by PaulKirby:
I have only needed to go round there 3 times when they saw some hanging off wires.


Good thing that she didn't bump the hover into it too hard - the components in the NTE5C itself are not soldered into position (just a press fit) and could be dislodged, that might result in a very expensive repair.

True, I know she has hit it hard a few times due to you can see dents in the plastic and also colour scurf marks from the hoover on the socket LOL

Paul

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Standard User 4M2
(knowledge is power) Thu 05-Oct-17 23:22:18
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Well she can be forgiven, even a light tug on either the phone or dsl cables can sometimes cause the faceplate to come adrift smile

I bet the NTE5C will be redesigned soon...
Standard User PaulKirby
(knowledge is power) Fri 06-Oct-17 07:53:24
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In reply to a post by 4M2:
Well she can be forgiven, even a light tug on either the phone or dsl cables can sometimes cause the faceplate to come adrift smile

I bet the NTE5C will be redesigned soon...

Yeah, hope so.
Their one you just knock one side and it pops off, I ended up using white duct tape round the edge, good luck the engineer that needs to get in there LOL.

Paul

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 06-Oct-17 08:01:05
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In reply to a post by 4M2:
Well she can be forgiven, even a light tug on either the phone or dsl cables can sometimes cause the faceplate to come adrift smile

I bet the NTE5C will be redesigned soon...


The SSFP part of the 5c is on its second revision. The actual 5c is on its second revision also, so I doubt there will be any significant changes.
Standard User kebabselector
(committed) Mon 18-Dec-17 14:54:13
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I think my spare NTE5C is the second rev and as I have so little confidence in the product I've ordered a Mk3 Interstitual FacePlate from the EvilBay (£8.85) for when FTTC arrives. My old rev 1.0 ADSL faceplate has been installed for about 12 years now - so I guess it could do with an update.

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(deleted) Mon 18-Dec-17 15:19:19
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I've been very impressed with my MK3 since installing just before I got FTTC. Extremely reliable and good speeds.
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 18-Dec-17 17:06:06
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Sounds like you may need a �normal� NTE frontplate as I think your current one replaced this, and the suggested MK3 requires the original frontplate to terminate extension wiring on to ...

Sorry, that wasn�t entirely clear was it.

Standard User kebabselector
(committed) Mon 18-Dec-17 17:20:52
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I know what you mean.

I do have a spare NTE normal faceplate from when a 2nd line was installed back in the 90's

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 18-Dec-17 17:53:47
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You deciphered my twaddle ! smile

Standard User kebabselector
(committed) Mon 18-Dec-17 22:33:24
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Yes!

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Standard User kebabselector
(committed) Sat 23-Dec-17 13:24:45
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Just replaced my old ADSL V1.0 with the Mk3 faceplate.

Now I know it's not a great leap forward, but my ADSL line is syncing 300k faster than it previously was. I did have a 200k speed bump when I changed the supplied RJ11 cable on my Fritz box with a .5metre Cat6 cable.

So a .5mb upgrade by simply changing a couple of things. I wonder if these changes would scale up with a VDSL connection?

Was previously connected at 7,8 Mbit/s - 882 kbit/s
Now connecting at 8,1 Mbit/s - 882 kbit/s

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Edited by kebabselector (Sat 23-Dec-17 13:25:48)

Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 23-Dec-17 13:52:56
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Pretty much, what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander* .....










*note seasonal analogy at no extra cost smile

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