Can't find my fttc cabinet

Does anyone know how to find a fttc cabinet, I have done some walking but still can't find it?
I am connected to Cabinet 5 on the croft exchange (NECOT)
Any help would be great
Thanks

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@54.4838727,-1.5449149...

near the PCP within 100m might even be hidden by overgrown hedge

In reply to a post by TomK134:

Does anyone know how to find a fttc cabinet, I have done some walking but still can't find it?
I am connected to Cabinet 5 on the croft exchange (NECOT)
Any help would be great
Thanks

Have you found Cabinet 5? The Fibre cabinet won't be too far away from that. This site is half useful as its out of date for many places and the map show the postcode of the cabinet, not its actual location. But its a start. https://www.telecom-tariffs.co.uk/codelook.htm?xid=1...

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

near the PCP within 100m might even be hidden by overgrown hedge

Codelook says "FTTC being Connected, live due by June 2020 Phase Commercial Extension 1920 23b" so might not be visible yet!

Found the PCP and know where cabinet is know however it seems far away from PCP c.300m, would this affect speed

I believe you have misunderstood something.

The copper PCP or cabinet will have an associated fibre DSLAM ‘twin’ (unless its an all in one cab, the fibre twin will normally be no more than 50 metres from its copper ‘patent’ cab.

In reply to a post by TomK134:

Found the PCP and know where cabinet is know however it seems far away from PCP c.300m, would this affect speed

The fibre twin cannot be 300m from the PCP.

That absolutely would affect speed, massively.

The fibre cabinet is usually within 50m, but is built as close to the PCP as possible.
AIUI the maximum distance is around 100m, though I've never seen 1 that far away.

It would be a monumental screw up if a fibre cabinet has been built 300m from its PCP.

DSLAM should be about 5 metres from the PCP. I assumed the op meant they were about 300m away from the cabinet

The cabinet has been in service for a few months now. Latest streetview image is from May 2019 so the DSLAM won't be shown

Yes that's what I thought however on the website linked in an earlier reply it says the postcode of the fibre cabinet and when I measured the distance to the PCP it was around 200-300m
However it may just be inaccurate on the website side of things as to the exact location of the fibre

If you are using a postcode for judging location then postcodes are very innacurate. Really you need to go and find the main cabinet which the location was provided by MrSaffron and then have a little look for the fibre twin - it won't be far away.

Edited by ian72 (Thu 18-Jun-20 16:24:47)

It seems not. .....
https://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/t/4649144-re...

In reply to a post by witchunt:

DSLAM should be about 5 metres from the PCP.

It's nice if it is but it's not always the case. The PCP that I'm currently connected to is almost thirty metres from its associated DSLAM, which is on the opposite sde of the road and round a corner. You can't see one from the other.

The PCP does have a nice new live G.Fast pod which is a consolation

In reply to a post by caffn8me:

DSLAM should be about 5 metres from the PCP.

It's nice if it is but it's not always the case. The PCP that I'm currently connected to is almost thirty metres from its associated DSLAM, which is on the opposite sde of the road and round a corner. You can't see one from the other.
Mine is similar.

The PCP does have a nice new live G.Fast pod which is a consolation

Mine doesn't but at 450m from the PCP it wouldn't have been available to me.

Mine is about 5m appart but with a pole inbetween the two cabs.. And no G.Fast and i'm about 1500m away from it - queue 1mbit uploads

In reply to a post by jchamier:

Mine doesn't but at 450m from the PCP it wouldn't have been available to me.

That doesn't sound like a recipe for a fast connection

I've actually been poking around online this afternoon trying to find a cabinet as I've been asked to go and look at a property which allegedly has slow internet. It's on G.Fast and the BT checker reports a recently observed sync of 330/50. The last FTTC sync on the previous service was 80/20. The checker also reports a downstream handback threshhold of 330 so it's got to be incredibly close to the cabinet.

The technician from the contracted IT support company who visited a couple of weeks ago reported a downstream speed of 22Mbps and upstream of 20Mbps. I'm putting money on that being a wi-fi result and bad wi-fi being the root cause of all the reported issues

In reply to a post by Taras:

Mine is about 5m appart but with a pole inbetween the two cabs.. And no G.Fast and i'm about 1500m away from it - queue 1mbit uploads

I'd have real problems if my uploads could only go at that speed.

It happens, a lot.

What baffles me, is why CP’s can’t get the punters to carry out a few simple steps to rule this kind of thing out before shuffling the issue down to ‘the supplier’ ... by which point the punters are convinced it’s a line issue.

In reply to a post by caffn8me:

The technician from the contracted IT support company who visited a couple of weeks ago reported a downstream speed of 22Mbps and upstream of 20Mbps. I'm putting money on that being a wi-fi result and bad wi-fi being the root cause of all the reported issues

or old wifi gear.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

It happens, a lot.

What baffles me, is why CP’s can’t get the punters to carry out a few simple steps to rule this kind of thing out before shuffling the issue down to ‘the supplier’ ... by which point the punters are convinced it’s a line issue.

quite. I've had clients ask me wifi speeds, I always ended up doing it as a freebie.

In reply to a post by caffn8me:

In reply to a post by Taras:

Mine is about 5m appart but with a pole inbetween the two cabs.. And no G.Fast and i'm about 1500m away from it - queue 1mbit uploads

I'd have real problems if my uploads could only go at that speed.

Its become a painful limitation for me now. I'm on a side of a small valley and that limits wireless :|.

In reply to a post by caffn8me:

That doesn't sound like a recipe for a fast connection

Over about 8 years VDSL went from 60/10, but dropped to 40/3, so I jumped ship to Virgin, which has the variable latency you see on BQM graphs, but I'm getting a solid 20 Mbps upload. Thankfully I made the change before this pandemic, as I've been in non stop web calls since - and the old 3 to 4 Mbps upload would have meant "no video".

The technician from the contracted IT support company who visited a couple of weeks ago reported a downstream speed of 22Mbps and upstream of 20Mbps. I'm putting money on that being a wi-fi result and bad wi-fi being the root cause of all the reported issues

That does sound like it! Living in a flat, I've given up with 2.4GHz, especially with everyone at home, but I hit my first problem with 5GHz, someone else's router on my channel. Easily solved, but means some (really cheap) TV streaming kit (e.g. NowTV stick) can no longer see my 5GHz network.

In reply to a post by caffn8me:

I'd have real problems if my uploads could only go at that speed.

I'd be looking at external cellular solutions, but in this pandemic my two providers have dropped download speeds a massive amount, one has gone from averages of 130 Mbps to 28 Mbps, and the other from 70 Mbps to about 15 Mbps. Its all these people at home!

Sorry, I was being specific to the OP's cabinet

Edited by witchunt (Thu 18-Jun-20 20:58:08)

That's got 7 on the end not 5 !.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

It happens, a lot.

What baffles me, is why CP’s can’t get the punters to carry out a few simple steps to rule this kind of thing out before shuffling the issue down to ‘the supplier’ ... by which point the punters are convinced it’s a line issue.

I think a lot of punters are so convinced it's a supplier issue that they don't even bother to go through the tests but say they have.

In reply to a post by Taras:

or old wifi gear.

Brand new Smart Hub 2 - but in an area that's likely to have lots and lots of neighbouring wi-fi routers. I haven't been to have a look yet but am more than a bit curious how the wi-fi gets around the house as it's properly enormous.

In reply to a post by witchunt:

Sorry, I was being specific to the OP's cabinet

Gotcha

In reply to a post by jchamier:

That does sound like it! Living in a flat, I've given up with 2.4GHz, especially with everyone at home, but I hit my first problem with 5GHz, someone else's router on my channel. Easily solved, but means some (really cheap) TV streaming kit (e.g. NowTV stick) can no longer see my 5GHz network.

I've given up on 2.4GHz at home too except for an old Raspberry Pi which I use as a Volumio player. It's in the bathroom about four feet from an access point and just about copes. I'm a good neighbour and have the power on 2.4GHz turned down to low.

Nah, that's PCP 5

Cab went live in April

Codelook cabinet locations are not to be relied on

Does anyone know how to find a fttc cabinet, I have done some walking but still can't find it?
I am connected to Cabinet 5 on the croft exchange (NECOT)
Any help would be great
Thanks

not sure why the cabinet location is even of interest

you can either get a superfast service from or you cannot (if your cant there are only 3 reasons if you cannot reason 1 cab not enable,d reason 2 cab enabled but you out of distance so no vdsl speed reason 3 cab enable you in distance but no capactity (no vds speed)

Edited by Fastman3 (Thu 18-Jun-20 22:13:26)

Ahh interesting, either the SH2 is rubbish at choosing a different channels or its a dud, or its got lovely thick walls. Or th most likely they need extra APs

In reply to a post by Taras:

Ahh interesting, either the SH2 is rubbish at choosing a different channels or its a dud, or its got lovely thick walls. Or th most likely they need extra APs

Until I get on site and have a look, I won't know. I haven't a clue whether there are wi-fi repeaters or hardwired access points.

The property is so large that only ethernet connected access points will be any use. It's spread over four floors, they're likely to be of reinforced concrete construction and the router may well be in the basement plant room (which is a fifth level).

I also suspect that the proximity to other properties means that there aren't any 2.4GHz channels which aren't completely congested.

In reply to a post by Fastman3:

not sure why the cabinet location is even of interest

you can either get a superfast service from or you cannot (if your cant there are only 3 reasons if you cannot reason 1 cab not enable,d reason 2 cab enabled but you out of distance so no vdsl speed reason 3 cab enable you in distance but no capactity (no vds speed)

Case 2 is wrong. It's not a matter of "yes or no" for vdsl. If you are close enough you'll get full 80/20 speed; then the further away you are, the slower the speed. Eventually, a mile or two out, the vdsl speed becomes lower than adsl speed. At that point you can claim "no point taking vdsl" (although I note BT have still been migrating adsl users to vdsl at the margins)

Tthe distance to the cabinet is very important, as the length of the line is the main factor that determines the speed you'll get.

Agreed.

Please do keep us (me) updated LOL

Case 2 is correct

VDSL is VDSL i never mentioned the speed (that determined by dsitance) and out of Distance there will be no speed on the checker (worse that ADSL)

if your out of distance no VDSL - Bearing my mind my day job i find it hilarious someone is trying to explain VDSL to me

So if you go past it to the left and zoom in it looks like a 7 to me, might need new glasses though.
I thought 5 was near the railway line ?.

In reply to a post by candlerb:

Eventually, a mile or two out, the vdsl speed becomes lower than adsl speed. At that point you can claim "no point taking vdsl" (although I note BT have still been migrating adsl users to vdsl at the margins

No true. You cannot make that statement without knowing the distances to cabinet and exchange. Friend have VDSL at well over 2 miles and their speed 3.5Mbps is around 4-5 times the ADSL they had previously. And if all ISPs and users on that cabinet migrated to VDSL then power masks could be changed and speeds increase further

PCP 7

In reply to a post by APTMAN:

So if you go past it to the left and zoom in it looks like a 7 to me, might need new glasses though.
I thought 5 was near the railway line ?.

Just to help a little bit, it could be your screen.

On my Dell laptop the picture as linked to does look a bit unclear and smudged, and when I increase the size onscreen it does seem to look a bit like a 7.

However it would be unusual for MrSaffron to be wrong on cases like this, and out of the question for witchunt to be.

When you first queried it I tried to go past it to about half way across and a bit down Avon Road, then rotate to look back at it. Strangely difficult. From that view, although still a bit unclear, it looks to me to be definitely 5. Which of course, it is .

I have my new glasses on order