UnchainedISP G.fast 221/30

Many thanks for upgraded G.fast 160/30 to 221/30 overnight. The line very stable SNR both at 3.1dB. Max and sync rate stable at 221/29

DSLAM type / SW version: BDCM:0xc190 (193.144) / v0xc190
Modem/router firmware: AnnexA version - A2pvfbH045o.d27j
DSL mode: G
Status: Showtime
Uptime: 12 hours 11 min 06 sec
Resyncs: 0 (since 09 Jun 2021 15:00:15)

Downstream Upstream
Line attenuation (dB): 39.0 0.0
Signal attenuation (dB): 39.0 0.0
Connection speed (kbps): 221441 29517
SNR margin (dB): 3.1 3.1
Power (dBm): 0.0 4.0
Interleave depth:
INP: 550.00 540.00
G.INP: Not enabled Not enabled
Vectoring status: Not monitored

xdslctl info --stats
xdslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime
Last Retrain Reason: 0
Last initialization procedure status: 0
Max: Upstream rate = 29611 Kbps, Downstream rate = 221583 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 29517 Kbps, Downstream rate = 221441 Kbps

Link Power State: L0
Mode: G.fast Annex A
TPS-TC: PTM Mode(0x0)
Trellis: U:ON /D:ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 3.1 3.1
Attn(dB): 39.0 0.0
Pwr(dBm): 0.0 4.0

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/16232476903...

Happy overall

Having seen your now locked post on the kitz forum and your many others over the years I am now firmly of the belief that you are an absolutely massive troll.

In reply to a post by PhilipSmith72:

Having seen your now locked post on the kitz forum and your many others over the years I am now firmly of the belief that you are an absolutely massive troll.

I don't think many here will disagree the problem is people cannot resist feeding him.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9...

Edited by Jack_Hackett (Wed 09-Jun-21 16:48:55)

Looks like Kits has had enough - post #12 - https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,26034.msg43...

In reply to a post by adslmax:

Many thanks for upgraded G.fast 160/30 to 221/30 overnight.

If only you hadn't cancelled all those previous G.fast orders you could have had it a year ago.

Well said that man Kitz !

This G.fast will not cancelled this time. Look folk, if I am happy with 221/30, let's be it. This is to stay for next 12 months or longer until Full Fibre come along.

Lawks is he still at it, I remember him quibbling over 1 or 2Mbps on 8Mbps ADSL years ago. Somethings don't change. I'd have killed for those speeds g.fast or not our fastest prior to fttp next week was 7/8Mbps on fttc

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

Well said that man Kitz !

*Woman

I'm sure she's used to it.

In reply to a post by Rich44:

Lawks is he still at it, I remember him quibbling over 1 or 2Mbps on 8Mbps ADSL years ago. Somethings don't change. I'd have killed for those speeds g.fast or not our fastest prior to fttp next week was 7/8Mbps on fttc

To be honest i don't get all this chasing speed and never have, i get 65Mbps and that is fine for us, i get some people need more speed if they are working from home and sharing internet with other family members but does the average internet user need more than 65Mbps?

Why would the average family need 150Mbps for?

Has Mr Max ever explained why he chases max speeds all the time or is it as i imagine just a need for speed.

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In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

To be honest i don't get all this chasing speed and never have, i get 65Mbps and that is fine for us, i get some people need more speed if they are working from home and sharing internet with other family members but does the average internet user need more than 65Mbps?

Those whom play these massive games on XBox or PlayStation find the faster speeds useful to update the monster large games (60GB downloads or more!!).

I would be quite happy with 60/65 Mbps, but with 15 or higher upload. Unfortunately FTTC /VDSL is often pretty awful at upload. Can't wait for FTTP with a real 80/20 service.

In reply to a post by j0hn83:

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

Well said that man Kitz !

*Woman

I'm sure she's used to it.

😳😳😳😳 [embarrassed]

In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

In reply to a post by Rich44:

Lawks is he still at it, I remember him quibbling over 1 or 2Mbps on 8Mbps ADSL years ago. Somethings don't change. I'd have killed for those speeds g.fast or not our fastest prior to fttp next week was 7/8Mbps on fttc

Has Mr Max ever explained why he chases max speeds all the time or is it as i imagine just a need for speed.

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I give it a week for the next posts about SRA cutting the speed by a fraction to 219MBit, engineers prob then get called out to waste their time before eventually at best he cancels the upgrade, incurring more costs on yet another innocent ISP.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

Those whom play these massive games on XBox or PlayStation find the faster speeds useful to update the monster large games (60GB downloads or more!!).

Indeed, they're handy for those absurdly large games. Even at the crazy download speed in my signature it takes a while.

Some of the peering speeds the content providers have into the internet exchanges is huge. Just had a squiz at one (albeit a biggie) Lon1 LINX…
Amazon 600G
Facebook 4x100G
Microsoft 2x300G
Netflix 4x100G
Sony 100G, 2x20G
Twitter 2x100G

https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,26042.msg43...

Well I wasn't far off

In reply to a post by jpm:

Eagerly awaiting your update where you cancel within the cooling off period and cause a small provider to incur costs they aren't able to recover

It's not a necessity but fast internet certainly helps sometimes.
I was launching a racing game about quarter of an hour before I had a race and it wouldn't launch as it had corrupted.
I verified the files through Steam and it started downloading 15GB of files.
Luckily I have Virgin Media M600 or I wouldn't have been able to do the race.

It seems he upgraded to 330, against a load of advice over there and from the ISP. SRA is altering the speeds on the higher product, but didn't need to on the 160.

Ah well .

Next up he will find he can't cancel, without paying something out.

Edited by pluralist (Thu 10-Jun-21 12:04:39)

If I wasn't a gamer and wanted straight out speed, i'd give Virgin a go again.

Apparently it has improved dramatically since Adslmax was last on it in the area we live in.

I do know at the time he was on it, it was absolutely garbage around here.

You can get 350Mbps for £34 a month now.

Edited by wolvesmad (Thu 10-Jun-21 11:36:09)

I am already finding this tbh, the games are getting heavier and heavier.

I went with Sky because they were a fair bit cheaper than the competition and paid off my EE FTTC contract when I moved house.

The fact they don't offer anything faster than 150 is starting to frustrate me when TalkTalk are doing 500Mbps for £40 a month.

Edited by wolvesmad (Thu 10-Jun-21 11:35:26)

In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

To be honest i don't get all this chasing speed and never have, i get 65Mbps and that is fine for us, i get some people need more speed if they are working from home and sharing internet with other family members but does the average internet user need more than 65Mbps?

Why would the average family need 150Mbps for?

I think these days its the massive files, either downloading game updates or 4K films. The average media file size as increased over the years, and it's probably going to keep going bigger as there isn't the same restraints on the media like there was back in the day i.e. with the cassette tape or the disk/disc sizes.

If there are multiple people in the house all using the same connection at the same time, then even on an averagely good FTTC connection it would start to struggle.

I find that when downloading Xbox games for the kids that half the time it struggles to exceed 100mb/sec. This didn’t appear to be a VM issue as everything else works full pelt all the time. The only reason I upgraded from 100mb to 350mb was for faster downloads of Xbox games, ended up being a pointless endeavour. Maybe at night the servers will be less busy, but then that defeats the point as if I’m asleep I don’t need them to download any quicker.

Oddly or not this thread has just been posted on similar lines...

https://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/f/4685984-an...

The providers no doubt have deliberate bandwidth caps on their downloads, probably vary by time of day etc.

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

Oddly or not this thread has just been posted on similar lines...

https://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/f/4685984-an...

The providers no doubt have deliberate bandwidth caps on their downloads, probably vary by time of day etc.

Good point actually, as I am usually updating the games as we've downloaded already nearly everything they like to play on with the xbox whatever subscription mebobbles. So yeah, that could make sense. I'll try a new game ater and see what the result is, however from past experience it didn't seem to make a difference whether it was a new game (to us - not the market) or update as it would rarely saturate the link.

Suggests it would be quicker to delete the game and re-download for some of these 100GB game "updates". 100GB update to a person like me who has no interest in gaming seems madness.

The only difference I can think of is that we don't have these hot of the press games, so all the things we are downloading are only the ones included in the xbox subscription.

Edited by gary333 (Thu 10-Jun-21 15:19:36)

In reply to a post by wolvesmad:

If I wasn't a gamer and wanted straight out speed, i'd give Virgin a go again.

Apparently it has improved dramatically since Adslmax was last on it in the area we live in.

I do know at the time he was on it, it was absolutely garbage around here.

You can get 350Mbps for £34 a month now.

check here https://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Speed/Very-Low-...

No improved in TF7 area

In reply to a post by jchamier:

In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

To be honest i don't get all this chasing speed and never have, i get 65Mbps and that is fine for us, i get some people need more speed if they are working from home and sharing internet with other family members but does the average internet user need more than 65Mbps?

Those whom play these massive games on XBox or PlayStation find the faster speeds useful to update the monster large games (60GB downloads or more!!).

I would be quite happy with 60/65 Mbps, but with 15 or higher upload. Unfortunately FTTC /VDSL is often pretty awful at upload. Can't wait for FTTP with a real 80/20 service.

Have you enquired about FTTC and what speed you may get?

This is mine -

In reply to a post by bkehoe:

In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

In reply to a post by Rich44:

Lawks is he still at it, I remember him quibbling over 1 or 2Mbps on 8Mbps ADSL years ago. Somethings don't change. I'd have killed for those speeds g.fast or not our fastest prior to fttp next week was 7/8Mbps on fttc

Has Mr Max ever explained why he chases max speeds all the time or is it as i imagine just a need for speed.

I give it a week for the next posts about SRA cutting the speed by a fraction to 219MBit, engineers prob then get called out to waste their time before eventually at best he cancels the upgrade, incurring more costs on yet another innocent ISP.

Less than a week -

Why didn't I listen to u all to stay on 160/30!

I am going to cancel G.fast when I get back from Wales going back to PN VDSL 80/20. I have no sleep for a week. I do miss PN ISP. They are good to me! Oh dear what the matter with me???????

Taken from this thread - https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,26042.msg43...

Edited by Jack_Hackett (Thu 10-Jun-21 20:36:11)

Post #3 Kitz had to stop posting then comes back and gives him both barrels.

https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,26042.msg43...

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Edited by Jack_Hackett (Thu 10-Jun-21 20:41:16)

Oh dear, history repeating

In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

Have you enquired about FTTC and what speed you may get?

I was on FTTC with first BT Retail and later Plusnet for 8 years, and ADSL before that. Started at 60 / 8, and finally left when speeds were 45 / 3.

The problem was the upload, and my only choice was Virgin, moved at the end of 2019.

Oh dear the improvements did not last long then.

Strangely enough I seem to get over 150Mbps on mine wired. It's not particularly accurate on my Xbox Series X as I never get over 150Mbps on speed tests on other devices.

Tagged to last post

I think we should all allow this to drop as his mental health is probably taking a battering from what he has done and the comments from both here and on Kitz.

In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

In reply to a post by Rich44:

Lawks is he still at it, I remember him quibbling over 1 or 2Mbps on 8Mbps ADSL years ago. Somethings don't change. I'd have killed for those speeds g.fast or not our fastest prior to fttp next week was 7/8Mbps on fttc

To be honest i don't get all this chasing speed and never have, i get 65Mbps and that is fine for us, i get some people need more speed if they are working from home and sharing internet with other family members but does the average internet user need more than 65Mbps?

Why would the average family need 150Mbps for?

Has Mr Max ever explained why he chases max speeds all the time or is it as i imagine just a need for speed.

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Before lockdown would agree with you 100% but since my 49MB does struggle with all the mobiles and laptops connecting. I suspect some of that is down to my wifi being erratic but tried everything to get to the bottom, even plugging into test socket, new router / modem.

I would love to have circ 80meg as that would be enough for the heavy usage sessions.

In reply to a post by dect:

Tagged to last post

I think we should all allow this to drop as his mental health is probably taking a battering from what he has done and the comments from both here and on Kitz.

He asks for advice on forums ignores it and then moans when it all goes tits up its not a wonder threads like this exist, he is his own worst enemy he knows what he is doing when he does it but cannot help himself in the never ending chase for more speed, i dont think he has mental health issues i think he loves the attention he gets in the forums.

How do you know he has mental health issues did he tell you himself?


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It is known to many of us from Max's postings both on here and the Kitz forums that Max has mental health issues.

In reply to a post by jelv:

It is known to many of us from Max's postings both on here and the Kitz forums that Max has mental health issues.

In that case surely the best action would be to remove his permission to post in the forums like this surely allowing him to post is the opposite of what is needed to stop this behaviour.

In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

In reply to a post by jelv:

It is known to many of us from Max's postings both on here and the Kitz forums that Max has mental health issues.

In that case surely the best action would be to remove his permission to post in the forums like this surely allowing him to post is the opposite of what is needed to stop this behaviour.

I know some people always have to have the last word and prove that they are right but I wonder if that sort of behaviour is really appropriate when laying down the law about personal matters concerning another poster. As far as I can see, @dect and @jelv have a rather more mature take on the situation.

(Edited to acknowledge the earlier input from @dect).

Edited by GonePostal (Sat 12-Jun-21 00:00:04)

In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

How do you know he has mental health issues did he tell you himself?

Didn't I say we should let it drop? maybe it could be you one day so have some dignity for those who do have issues.

In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

How do you know he has mental health issues did he tell you himself?


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Be careful what you are saying! I am in long term disability mental health issues.

Edited by adslmax (Fri 11-Jun-21 23:26:41)

@MrSaffron please closed this thread

Edited by adslmax (Fri 11-Jun-21 23:27:02)

+1

"I know some people always have to have the last word and prove that they are right"

Hey Max. Enjoy the sunshine and enjoy the circuit.

If the circuit is not dropping let it look after itself without you peeping at the stats and worrying about it.

In reply to a post by GonePostal:

In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

In reply to a post by jelv:

It is known to many of us from Max's postings both on here and the Kitz forums that Max has mental health issues.

In that case surely the best action would be to remove his permission to post in the forums like this surely allowing him to post is the opposite of what is needed to stop this behaviour.

I know some people always have to have the last word and prove that they are right but I wonder if that sort of behaviour is really appropriate when laying down the law about personal matters concerning another poster. As far as I can see, @dect and @jelv have a rather more mature take on the situation.

(Edited to acknowledge the earlier input from @dect).

Why do you assume i am trying to have the last word i have nothing to prove here.

Letting Max carry on posting about his never ending chase for the ultimate speed cannot be helpful and this is never going to stop (and you know that) if that is not the case can you explain why letting him carry on is a better option?

Edited by Jack_Hackett (Sat 12-Jun-21 13:08:11)

In reply to a post by dect:

In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

How do you know he has mental health issues did he tell you himself?

Didn't I say we should let it drop? maybe it could be you one day so have some dignity for those who do have issues.

Yes you did suggest we drop it but as i totally disagree with what you and others have accused me of i have no intention of doing so and will put the record straight.

I thought suggesting stopping a person with mental health issues from posting in two forums where people prove that the majority of what he posts is a lie and openly tell him in the forums he is doing so was showing sympathy, i guess you have a different view on what sympathy is when you suggest i have non.
(not dignity as you posted)

Edited by Jack_Hackett (Sat 12-Jun-21 13:58:06)

My G.fast are now rock stable 221/30 as both snr also steady at 3.1dB.

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/16235093562...

https://i.ibb.co/s16bLzr/Untitled.jpg

No issues now.

Edited by adslmax (Sat 12-Jun-21 15:50:17)

In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

Yes you did suggest we drop it but as i totally disagree with what you and others have accused me of i have no intention of doing so and will put the record straight.

Let me put the record straight, I haven't accused you of doing anything to this point (other than asking you to back off ) but I am now seeing what others are saying about you wanting the last word.

We have told you one of the posters who you seem happy to attack has a mental health issue but instead of backing off like any self respecting person would do you want to keep on posting and inflict more pain on him. I am starting to wonder why you have only just come back from 8 years away from this forum and I'm starting to think it could be you've been in prison as you seem to like a big of aggro.

In reply to a post by dect:

In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

Yes you did suggest we drop it but as i totally disagree with what you and others have accused me of i have no intention of doing so and will put the record straight.

Let me put the record straight, I haven't accused you of doing anything to this point (other than asking you to back off ) but I am now seeing what others are saying about you wanting the last word.

We have told you one of the posters who you seem happy to attack has a mental health issue but instead of backing off like any self respecting person would do you want to keep on posting and inflict more pain on him.

So rather than answer the points i made in the posts above you decide to point out again that i was asked to drop the subject i guess i shouldn't have expected anything else.

I have said nothing new in the posts to upset Max so how am i "inflicting more pain" would you care to discuss the points i made which as i said were posted to help the situation not "inflict more pain" or are you just **** stirring?

I am starting to wonder why you have only just come back from 8 years away from this forum and I'm starting to think it could be you've been in prison as you seem to like a big of aggro.

Well Sherlock you got this one totally wrong i have never been in prison and resent the accusation is that how low you have to stoop to get your point across sad lad? and although It really has got nothing to do with you but as you brought it up i will explain -

I lost my password for the account i have been using in recent years and as i couldn't get the email address that i used then to work i couldn't change the password, fortunately for me i found the old log in details for this account so decided to use this one as i will no longer be using the other.

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Edited by Jack_Hackett (Sat 12-Jun-21 16:42:30)

In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

would you care to discuss the points i made

I am not going to get in to a full blown discussion about if that poster should or shouldn't post in this forum, management are fully aware of the situation so its with them not you or I. If you really want the last word then feel free to reply but I'm out now as I've tried to do the right thing by that poster even if you can't see that and think I'm stirring it by suggesting we all drop it.

In reply to a post by dect:

In reply to a post by Jack_Hackett:

would you care to discuss the points i made

I am not going to get in to a full blown discussion about if that poster should or shouldn't post in this forum

Strange how very vocal you are when it comes to someone else discussing it hence my stirring comment!

I edited my earlier post as i missed the part where you suggested i may have just got out of prison what a piece of work you are.

I am starting to wonder why you have only just come back from 8 years away from this forum and I'm starting to think it could be you've been in prison as you seem to like a big of aggro.

Well Sherlock you got this one totally wrong i have never been in prison and resent the accusation and as that is how low you will stoop i will put the record straight again.

I lost my password for the account i have been using in recent years and as i couldn't get the email address that i used then to work i couldn't change the password, fortunately for me i found the old log in details for this account so decided to use this one as i will no longer be using the other.

Edited by Jack_Hackett (Sat 12-Jun-21 16:53:45)

Maybe you could tell us who you have been posting as .

You first! 😉🤣

At OP request