FTTP on Demand 1000 ?

So for about a week now the DSL checker for my address has change from FTTP on Demand 330/50
To FTTP on Demand 1000/220?

Still says FTTP not available.

is this just a new on demand product or an error?

In reply to a post by lockyatlrg:

So for about a week now the DSL checker for my address has change from FTTP on Demand 330/50
To FTTP on Demand 1000/220?

Still says FTTP not available.

is this just a new on demand product or an error?

Your property record has been touched within the database, this could be nothing or it may soon change again to something better like FTTP

Exactly that. To clarify: FTTP on Demand has been 1000/220 for years now (and this is what you would have got, if you'd ordered it). However, when the product changed to this, they did not go around all the existing database entries updating them.

So it's only when they update your property's entry in the database for some other reason, that you find it being refreshed to FTTPoD 1000/220.

And sometimes this happens just before your property is switched to FTTP available.

Interestingly they will have to update it again when the faster speeds become national and a proper product! One thing i didn't realise it was simply changed to when the db entry is changed too.

BT have been on my estate and street putting fibre in the ground for the last few months. Mean anything?

I'd assume it means they are installing fibre. What does the Openreach checker say for your address?

In reply to a post by lockyatlrg:

BT have been on my estate and street putting fibre in the ground for the last few months. Mean anything?

What does installing fibre on your estate mean?

I reckon they're getting ready to send you back to ADSL!

In reply to a post by lockyatlrg:

BT have been on my estate and street putting fibre in the ground for the last few months. Mean anything?

Either a nearby mobile mast is getting an upgrade (as happened around here); a business nearby is buying a higher capacity leased line, or you are lucky and Openreach have ducts that can be used to bring FTTP to your road. (Unlike many of my friends whom are all DIG). Any of ther above...

FTTP on Demand means FTTP is in the area but you would have to pay FULL install costs

WBC FTTP is the product that you need to be available to show FTTP is available at your address
It will also change the ONT order status to show your address has FTTP available.

In reply to a post by pyarwood:

FTTP on Demand means FTTP is in the area

It doesn't necessarily mean FTTP is in the area - FTTPoD is available to all properties in the UK, except MDUs. (It used to be that you had to be in an FTTC-enabled area, but that restriction was removed).

Of course, if there isn't a fibre aggregation node nearby, then the costs of FTTPoD can be astronomical rather than simply ruinous.

In general though you're right: "FTTPoD is available" means exactly the same as "FTTP is not available", and "WBC FTTP" means "FTTP is available".

Everywhere around me in my town has FTTP. I asked a BTOR guy today that was working on the cab and he said it should be live now to order. So I don't know.

I just want rid of Virgin who are fine for speed like I get 1150 down and 100 up but for gaming they are useless. Their routing is woeful and I have to use a VPN just to get a decent ping.

In reply to a post by lockyatlrg:

Everywhere around me in my town has FTTP. I asked a BTOR guy today that was working on the cab and he said it should be live now to order. So I don't know.

Then it sounds promising: check it daily, for the next two or three weeks. Try the Openreach checker *and* the BT wholesale broadband checker *and* your preferred ISP's checker, since not necessarily all ISPs will have the necessary interconnect capacity from day one (and sometimes even BT wholesale doesn't)

If after a few weeks nothing shows, or if the BTW checker shows your neighbours having it but not you, then fill in the Openreach contact form with the reason "I can't get fibre but my neighbours can". Sometimes individual properties get missed from database updates.

However, the fact that you have seen a change to 1000/220 FTTPoD suggests that you haven't been forgotten. Good luck!

WBC FTTP Up to 1000 Up to 220 Available 1 Stage

Our records show the following FTTP network service information for these premises:-Single Dwelling Unit Residential UG congested duct.

FTTP is available and a new ONT may be ordered.


Well the checker has now changed and I can order it..

Obviously good news that you can order FTTP , it’s odd that the survey note indicates congested duct ( the duct from the box containing the CBT and your property) , and a single stage install , unless policy has recently changed , a 2 stage install was the consequence of a ‘congested duct’ survey .

In reply to a post by lockyatlrg:

WBC FTTP Up to 1000 Up to 220 Available 1 Stage

Our records show the following FTTP network service information for these premises:-Single Dwelling Unit Residential UG congested duct.

FTTP is available and a new ONT may be ordered.

Awesome!

"Congested duct" is probably just indicating the duct hasn't been proved clear, so on the day it may need to be rodded. Not enough of a concern to turn it into a 2 stage install.

Good luck!

Thing is Virgin installed their fibre to my house over 2 years ago. So a nice fibre tube is already in place. They had a hard time rodding it through but soon cleared it all out.

In reply to a post by lockyatlrg:

WBC FTTP Up to 1000 Up to 220 Available 1 Stage

Our records show the following FTTP network service information for these premises:-Single Dwelling Unit Residential UG congested duct.

FTTP is available and a new ONT may be ordered.


Well the checker has now changed and I can order it..

Lucky you! Someone have to pay FTTPoD and your checker FTTP not available to available now. I do feel the pain for someone who pay expensive FTTPoD for you!

Edited by adslmax (Thu 08-Feb-24 05:22:07)

In reply to a post by lockyatlrg:

Thing is Virgin installed their fibre to my house over 2 years ago. So a nice fibre tube is already in place. They had a hard time rodding it through but soon cleared it all out.

Because Virgin Media don’t have any obligation to share physical access infrastructure like ducts , the VM duct cannot be used by anyone but VM , hopefully your ‘congested duct’ will prove to be no barrier to providing service quickly and on the day of the appointment, the Openreach duct though is available for Alt Nets to use , should one appear in your area.

In reply to a post by adslmax:

Lucky you! Someone have to pay FTTPoD and your checker FTTP not available to available now. I do feel the pain for someone who pay expensive FTTPoD for you!

What are you talking about Max? This is a regular Openreach FTTP rollout. Nobody paid for FTTPoD.

In reply to a post by candlerb:

In reply to a post by adslmax:

Lucky you! Someone have to pay FTTPoD and your checker FTTP not available to available now. I do feel the pain for someone who pay expensive FTTPoD for you!

What are you talking about Max? This is a regular Openreach FTTP rollout. Nobody paid for FTTPoD.

I was totally confused by his ramble as well.

I actually meant Its at the exchange and the cost as you say could be due to footing the whole install costs yourself

also watch out for a new connector being fitted to maybe a wall near you or on the pole (if your line is on a pole) its when that is there then the WBC FTTP product should shortly become available

I would also watch out for BT EE sales people flooding your streets for a couple of weeks (they are trying to get you signed up to BT/EE just before anyone else can grab your custom) as they will know your area is due to go live with WBC

I wouldnt depend on what the BT OR guy said they would not necessarily know anything about installation but will still tell you its going to be there shortly so you dont look for alternatives

They have probably fitted FTTP in other properties locally and moved it from 2stage to 1stage with the further information gathered in previous installs as they now know they can install in 1 visit

all my area was 2 stage until I had mine fitted they did surveys to install mine fitted it over 2 visits and moved everyone else to 1 stage

In reply to a post by pyarwood:

I actually meant Its at the exchange

It doesn't mean that either. Every Openreach Head-End exchange has FTTP to some extent.

FTTPoD availability used to be limited to lines connected to an FTTC enabled PCP.
They excluded lines on cabinets with no FTTC and exchange only lines.
MDU's have always been excluded.

FTTPoD coverage was expanded (considerably) with the FTTC cabinet requirement removed. MDU's remain excluded.
There are still areas with FTTP available at the Head-End exchange with no FTTPoD availability.

Frankly I have no idea what the availability criteria is. I don't know anyone else who can pin point it either.
Openreach were extremely vague when they announced the coverage expansion.
I do know it has nothing to do with FTTP being at the exchange though.

In reply to a post by j0hn83:

Frankly I have no idea what the availability criteria is

The sole availability criterion is the depth of your bank account