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Standard User ScubaAL
(newbie) Tue 25-Mar-25 10:29:51
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Current g.fast providers


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Hi,

Sorry if this has been asked recently, I have searched and not found anything.

Does anyone know which ISPs currently supply g.fast? My location only has g.fast (no FTTP available) All roads in a circle around mine have FTTP.

Thanks
Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 25-Mar-25 11:56:45
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G.fast is available (called SoGfast) but you need Openreach G.fast modem as the engineer no longer provided it. You can purchased it via ebay for 2nd hand G.fast modem. But you need wireless router as well.

https://www.filesanctuary.net/broadband/sogfast
https://www.unchainedisp.net/broadband.html

Edited by adslmax (Tue 25-Mar-25 11:59:49)

Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 25-Mar-25 12:02:42
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In reply to a post by ScubaAL:
My location only has g.fast (no FTTP available) All roads in a circle around mine have FTTP.

Thanks


Have you checking BTw Checker / Openreach Fibre Checker to see if FTTP is available as you said many road around you have FTTP but not your address? I am sure your address should have it (maybe it missing from database)

Edited by adslmax (Tue 25-Mar-25 12:03:43)


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Standard User Iniltous
(committed) Tue 25-Mar-25 12:46:38
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https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2024/08/openre...
Standard User ScubaAL
(newbie) Tue 25-Mar-25 17:06:07
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Thanks for the reply.
I have checked the Checker:
https://i.postimg.cc/nz9W8MwX/ADSLChecker.png

From the FTTP map: https://labs.thinkbroadband.com/local/broadband-map
https://i.postimg.cc/MHkFzxhd/FTTPMap.png
I live in the middle of the image.
They're not flats or anything strange. But they are newer than some of the other roads (mid 90s), phone lines come underground rather than from telegraph poles.

I do wonder why we were skipped.

Thanks,
Standard User ScubaAL
(newbie) Tue 25-Mar-25 17:08:37
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Thanks,

It used to be that "normal" consumer ISPs like EE/Sky/TalkTalk offered it for the same price as 150 FTTP.
But now it looks like only "niche" ISPs offer it at a higher cost.

Hopefully we'll get FTTP sometime soon.
Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 25-Mar-25 17:11:07
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U can email Openreach and ask them if FTTP come to your address soon as I know top of the range SoGfast very expensive £54 a month with filesanctuary (18 months) or £70 a month with unchainedisp (12 months) for Gfast 330/50.
https://www.openreach.com/forms/fibre-broadband-avai...

Edited by adslmax (Tue 25-Mar-25 17:22:29)

Standard User FibreBubble
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 25-Mar-25 18:16:04
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Having a look on streetview, it looks like the BT jointboxes are older than 1990s and there are a lot of them, which in itself is unusual for 90s developments.

A gander at the year of manufacture on the jointboxes may provide a clue.

My highly unscientific guess is that something was there before your houses and a buried cable was reused meaning no ducts are available.

Unlimited Edition. Unlimited Supply.

Edited by FibreBubble (Tue 25-Mar-25 18:18:49)

Standard User Nervous
(experienced) Wed 26-Mar-25 20:35:27
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https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband/gfast-prov...
Standard User purleigh
(newbie) Wed 26-Mar-25 23:35:13
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In reply to a post by ScubaAL:
Does anyone know which ISPs currently supply g.fast?

Take a look at A&A Home::1 G.Fast
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Standard User ScubaAL
(newbie) Thu 27-Mar-25 07:53:30
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Thanks, but that page is not correct. Most of the providers listed, don't offer g.fast any more.
Standard User CJT
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 27-Mar-25 08:58:44
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In reply to a post by ScubaAL:
Hi,

Sorry if this has been asked recently, I have searched and not found anything.

Does anyone know which ISPs currently supply g.fast? My location only has g.fast (no FTTP available) All roads in a circle around mine have FTTP.

Thanks


I was in a similar boat 2 years ago, I went with TalkTalk as they offered a service with no connection fee, but a 24 month contract.

CJT.

Currently on TalkTalk Fibre 150 (G.Fast) - Moving to Aquiss FTTP 500!

Previously on NOW TV Broadband up to 38 Mbps, then BT Broadband up to 80Mbps, then Pluse8 Broadband up to 80 Mbps, then Hyperoptic 100Mbps.
Standard User Nervous
(experienced) Thu 27-Mar-25 10:27:59
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Would be helpful if you could supply a postcode.
Standard User ScubaAL
(newbie) Thu 27-Mar-25 12:05:40
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Hi,
It's AL1 5UP.
Standard User Nervous
(experienced) Thu 27-Mar-25 12:33:24
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https://www.cerberusnetworks.co.uk
Standard User jpm
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 27-Mar-25 13:09:49
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In your situation I'd pick a 24 month broadband only deal from Virgin Media and hope that something happens in that period regarding FTTP availability.
Standard User candlerb
(knowledge is power) Thu 27-Mar-25 13:59:42
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You must be living right next to the cabinet, to get a 330M minimum speed on an impacted line, and 330M handback threshold.

You'll certainly have to pay more for G.Fast from the likes of Cerberus, and for many people I'd say it wasn't worth the hassle of a flakey service, but in your case it looks like it should be solid.
Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 28-Mar-25 14:16:14
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In reply to a post by candlerb:
You must be living right next to the cabinet, to get a 330M minimum speed on an impacted line, and 330M handback threshold.

You'll certainly have to pay more for G.Fast from the likes of Cerberus, and for many people I'd say it wasn't worth the hassle of a flakey service, but in your case it looks like it should be solid.


Agree he get the 330/50 maximum sync no doubt as he live much closer to the cabinet as G.fast (now called SoGfast) are very expensive but the cheapest for him to have SoGfast 160/30 with filesanctuary.net and ask for 12 months contract instead of 18 months because I can see his post code under Openreach Full Fibre is planning for next 12 months. (but he need to buy 2nd hand G.Fast modem from ebay)
So, his FTTP is on the way soon between now and end of 2026.

Edited by adslmax (Fri 28-Mar-25 14:21:35)

Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 28-Mar-25 14:19:21
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Hi,
It's AL1 5UP.


Openreach Fibre Checker say you are in planning, between now and end of 2026. More likely you will see FTTP available soon between now and next 12 months. I still got Openreach G.fast Modem MT992 ZTLink in very excellent condition in the box which I don't use it anymore (I used to have SoGfast 330/50 with UnchainedISP for 12 months) but went back to SoGEA 80/20 now with Aquiss ISP.

Edited by adslmax (Fri 28-Mar-25 14:24:57)

Standard User Nervous
(experienced) Fri 28-Mar-25 15:32:59
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Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 01-Apr-25 22:00:47
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Cerberus is now offering SoGfast Pro (330/50) for 1 month contract with new copper line installation (1 month contract) for £59.90 inc vat a month with installation fee £134.64 inc vat with Draytek Vigor 166 G.fast modem £142.80 inc vat with 1 free static ip address. So, you can cancel it at anytime with 30 days notice with cease fee of £43.20 inc vat when FTTP become available! SoGfast Office (160/30) is also available for the same 1 month contract with monthly fee of £52.42 inc vat but you can't have static ip address (only on SoGfast Pro)

Edited by adslmax (Tue 01-Apr-25 22:18:10)

Standard User Pheasant
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 01-Apr-25 22:12:07
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Cerberus will be alright. Not a fly by night operator. Not the cheapest. But you know they will stand behind the service of what they sell. Or at least they did 😂
Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 01-Apr-25 22:17:16
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smile
Standard User CJT
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 01-Apr-25 22:18:56
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Having a look for you File Sanctuary offer SOGFast 160/30 @ £49 per month, if you choose a FRITZ!Box 7530AX it's a £90 set up fee, own router suggest £0 setup fee. 18 month contract.

Unchained ISP 160/30 £60/m with a £25 set up fee, 12 Month Contract

Would be worth finding out the cancellation charges

CJT.

Currently on TalkTalk Fibre 150 (G.Fast) - Moving to Aquiss FTTP 500!

Previously on NOW TV Broadband up to 38 Mbps, then BT Broadband up to 80Mbps, then Pluse8 Broadband up to 80 Mbps, then Hyperoptic 100Mbps.
Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 02-Apr-25 12:06:50
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In reply to a post by CJT:
Having a look for you File Sanctuary offer SOGFast 160/30 @ £49 per month, if you choose a FRITZ!Box 7530AX it's a £90 set up fee, own router suggest £0 setup fee. 18 month contract.

Unchained ISP 160/30 £60/m with a £25 set up fee, 12 Month Contract

Would be worth finding out the cancellation charges


He probably doesn't want 18 months contract with File Sanctuary or 12 months contract with UnchainedISP. What if his FTTP become available within next 6 months?
Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 02-Apr-25 12:12:50
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In reply to a post by CJT:
Having a look for you File Sanctuary offer SOGFast 160/30 @ £49 per month, if you choose a FRITZ!Box 7530AX it's a £90 set up fee, own router suggest £0 setup fee. 18 month contract.

Unchained ISP 160/30 £60/m with a £25 set up fee, 12 Month Contract

Would be worth finding out the cancellation charges


Beware of FRITZ!Box 7530AX isn't support G.fast (only ADSL or VDSL)




DSL router with firewall/NAT, DHCP server, DynDNS client, UPnP AV
VDSL or ADSL line
Supports VDSL connections up to 300 Mbit/s with supervectoring (35b)
Supports VDSL lines with 100 Mbit/s with vectoring (full vectoring)
Supports VDSL Long Reach

Use of existing Internet connections via LAN
Router operation with a cable modem, fiber optic connection or 3G data dongle (LTE/UMTS/HSPA)
Supports IPv6
Stateful Packet Inspection Firewall with port sharing
Secure remote access, LAN-to-LAN linkup and dial-in to the company network with VPN (WireGuard and IPSec)

Edited by adslmax (Wed 02-Apr-25 12:14:10)

Standard User FileSanctuary
(newbie) Wed 02-Apr-25 15:33:11
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Hi adslmax,

You're right, the FRITZ!Box 7530 AX does not directly support G.fast, however we deploy this as a "two box" solution, in conjunction with an Openreach MT992.

While Openreach don't make the MT992 directly available to ISPs anymore, there are plenty on eBay for around the £20-£30 mark, and we advise our SOGFast customers to pick one up from there. Doing an eBay search with the terms "openreach mt992" seems to return the best results.

Getting these from eBay works out to be much cheaper for customers as Openreach were charging ISPs close to £70 + VAT for these towards the end!

The MT992 essentially acts as a zero-configuration media converter of sorts, and you can plug in any PPPoE-capable router with an Ethernet WAN port (such as our FRITZ!Box 7530 AX or FRITZ!Box 7690) into the MT992, and you set the username/password on the router.

Edited by FileSanctuary (Wed 02-Apr-25 15:57:04)

Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 02-Apr-25 16:17:31
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I agree but this person can get G.fast Router (excellent router) as it support G.fast for under £15!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/396162270538
Standard User FileSanctuary
(newbie) Wed 02-Apr-25 17:07:22
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I believe that Zyxel model is unfortunately now out of support and no longer receives firmware updates (so no security patches).

It does support G.fast as a "one box" solution though, but I don't think there are many G.fast-capable router models that still get security updates, which is why most new installs are done the "two box" way.

Aaron B. Russell
Managing Director & CTO
File Sanctuary
https://www.filesanctuary.net
Standard User adslmax
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 02-Apr-25 17:17:08
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When I got the Openreach G.fast Modem I did asked the engineer last year was the modem itself updated to latest security patches because the modem was locked down. The engineer say he has no idea how to unlock it and unable to check the latest firmware on the modem. I do own Zyxel XMG3927-B50A G.fast Router with last security updated from Zyxel support team 5.17(ABMT.6)C0 firmware https://webservice.zyxel.com/end-of-life

Edited by adslmax (Wed 02-Apr-25 17:18:13)

Standard User CJT
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 03-Apr-25 08:48:26
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He probably doesn't want 18 months contract with File Sanctuary or 12 months contract with UnchainedISP. What if his FTTP become available within next 6 months?


Didn't you suggest both in one of your original posts?

CJT.

Currently on TalkTalk Fibre 150 (G.Fast) - Moving to Aquiss FTTP 500!

Previously on NOW TV Broadband up to 38 Mbps, then BT Broadband up to 80Mbps, then Pluse8 Broadband up to 80 Mbps, then Hyperoptic 100Mbps.
Standard User aks
(committed) Wed 16-Apr-25 12:02:41
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I'm in AL5 (Harpenden) and have a similar situation - most streets nearby have FTTP.

However, I have been on G.fast for 2-3 years now with Sky, and although they don't show it on their website, they do still offer it to me - contract extension/renewals etc, so you might just try to give them a call and see what's possible.

The availability checker says you can get G.fast, then click the "Search for G.fast Fibre Broadband here!" and Sky *is* listed.

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Tony
Standard User VWGolfman
(knowledge is power) Fri 18-Apr-25 17:24:01
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I have been on GFast with BT Internet for a few years now.
However, I don't believe that they are offering this service anymore for new sign-ups.

The MT992 modem has always served me well.
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