There is a surprising amount of FTTP on Anglesey. but none near Holyhead (Holy Island), There is FTTC.

I agree there is a surprising amount of FTTP on Anglesey, however the point I was trying to make was that Sky were not prioritizing exchanges with lots of FTTP. This is in view of the fact that our exchange is relatively small and rural in comparison to larger urban areas where it seems Sky FTTP is unavailable.

In reply to a post by CarlTSpeak:

No cabinets = brand new OLT for FTTP = Sky haven't had to purchase Cablelink until they started selling FTTP so may not have placed the order until recently and are within the lead time for it.

Cabinets on the OLT already = Sky probably have a Cablelink in place to serve the FTTC customer base on the OLT.

I was trying to make the same point when I posted below

In reply to a post by dect:

Does anyone know if fttp will show available via Sky if new cable links are required in the local headend exchange?

Thanks for the contact no's @AlanPot.

I appreciate all the replies. If I hear anything positive i will post an update.

OK, so the latest I am hearing from is that even though the FTTP infrastructure is in place,Openreach have to make ports available to Sky to allow them to sell the service which has not happened yet. In the world of equivelence all ISP's are treated the same and in this case we can order from BT (I have) . Can any experts please explain what steps are heppen at the exchange for a direct Openreach ISP (ie not via BTW) to be able to sell an FTTP service.

As previously stated above Sky may not have as yet purchased the necessary cablelink from OR whereas BTw have done so.

Sky need to order a cablelink in the exchange.
OpenReach need to install it.

There are no ports OpenReach need to make available to Sky.

There is a lead time on OpenReach installing the cablelink. It's not a same day thing.

Sky have either ordered the cablelink and are waiting on it being installed or they haven't ordered it at all.
Sounds like they might have ordered it and Sky are simplifying this to "OpenReach need to make ports available".

There is 100% equivalence of all ISP's.

BT don't buy these cablelinks, they buy a Wholesale service from someone else who buys the cablelinks.
Hundreds and hundreds of ISP's are free to use the same cablelinks that BT do.
BT's supplier is subject to the exact same lead times that Sky are.

Remember BT have been selling FTTP for coming on a decade now.
Sky launched this barely a month ago.
Sky are behind the ball on this. They have been ordering GEA cablelinks since FTTC launched, they know about the lead times to install these and it's pretty poor blaming OpenReach for their own decision not to sell the product until now.

Edited by j0hn83 (Thu 17-Sep-20 17:19:05)

Thanks @j0hn83 for the additional information, much appreciated. That is clear now.

In reply to a post by j0hn83:

Sky need to order a cablelink in the exchange.
OpenReach need to install it.

There are no ports OpenReach need to make available to Sky.

There is a lead time on OpenReach installing the cablelink. It's not a same day thing.

Sky have either ordered the cablelink and are waiting on it being installed or they haven't ordered it at all.
Sounds like they might have ordered it and Sky are simplifying this to "OpenReach need to make ports available".

There is 100% equivalence of all ISP's.

BT don't buy these cablelinks, they buy a Wholesale service from someone else who buys the cablelinks.
Hundreds and hundreds of ISP's are free to use the same cablelinks that BT do.
BT's supplier is subject to the exact same lead times that Sky are.

Remember BT have been selling FTTP for coming on a decade now.
Sky launched this barely a month ago.
Sky are behind the ball on this. They have been ordering GEA cablelinks since FTTC launched, they know about the lead times to install these and it's pretty poor blaming OpenReach for their own decision not to sell the product until now.

+1

More like [censored] poor planning from the ISP. Nothing to do with OR, cable links need to be purchased, either that or Sky doesn’t have capacity and are upgrading core network before allowing FTTP punters on board. When it’s available on Openreach systems it’s available to any ISP that wants to sell it just down to them to ensure the provisions are installed back at headend in terms of ISP equipment.