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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 09-Apr-21 12:21:30
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[re: Pheasant] [link to this post]
 
Cool, there is fttp competition in my city, Open Reach and CityFibre, the later offers 1000 up and down.

The good thing is, the fttp capable pole is in my garden and I was the first to hook up, I just wished we had this 20+ years ago.
Standard User nofappingway
(newbie) Tue 20-Apr-21 13:06:16
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Re: The day has arrived!!


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I'm with an altnet for an gigabit symmetrical service. Only £40/month. Great value!

Not sure why OR don't offer this.
Standard User j0hn83
(knowledge is power) Wed 21-Apr-21 05:09:50
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I'm with an altnet for an gigabit symmetrical service. Only £40/month. Great value!

Not sure why OR don't offer this.


A number of reasons.

OpenReach FTTP is GPON, which is asymmetric.
It's 1.2Gb/s upstream split up to 32 ways.

OpenReach guarantee the upstream speed they sell to ISP's.
Allowing a single customer to take 1Gb/s of the 1.2Gb/s available to the up to 32 properties doesn't fit with that guarantee.

CityFibre is also GPON but they don't guarantee the upstream in the same way.

OpenReach also have very large leased line revenues which cheap symmetrical gigabit would likely eat in to.
They are also highly regulated unlike your Alt-Net.


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Standard User simon194
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 22-Apr-21 15:59:37
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Re: The day has arrived!!


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Just an update on my install.

The Openreach engineer called to say he would be arriving at around 10:30 then called back 10 minutes later to say he had been called to help on another install and would arrive after lunch.

1:30 he turns up and we run through where the ONT will go and starts the work outside but has to go off and get a key for something to do with the duct box, so off he goes and gets back about 2:15 and gets down to business.

At around 4pm he's got it all connected up but it takes the router about 20 minutes to connect but finally does and a quick speed test on my phone and get a respectable 135 down and 27 up. Next connected the laptop with an ethernet cable to the router and get 148 down and 30.5 up.

Later on I had a look at the router syslog to see if there was anything that caused the 20 minute delay in connecting and noticed it was having problems resolving the TR069 hostname so it could load the SIP configuration for the phone.
Standard User chriscdotcodotuk
(regular) Thu 22-Apr-21 16:30:03
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In reply to a post by simon194:
Just an update on my install.

The Openreach engineer called to say he would be arriving at around 10:30 then called back 10 minutes later to say he had been called to help on another install and would arrive after lunch.

1:30 he turns up and we run through where the ONT will go and starts the work outside but has to go off and get a key for something to do with the duct box, so off he goes and gets back about 2:15 and gets down to business.

At around 4pm he's got it all connected up but it takes the router about 20 minutes to connect but finally does and a quick speed test on my phone and get a respectable 135 down and 27 up. Next connected the laptop with an ethernet cable to the router and get 148 down and 30.5 up.

Later on I had a look at the router syslog to see if there was anything that caused the 20 minute delay in connecting and noticed it was having problems resolving the TR069 hostname so it could load the SIP configuration for the phone.


Glad you got yours sorted in the end. My poor engineer was on site from 08:30 to 13:30 and couldn't get it sorted because of issues with the ducts. My issue is 100m of ducting to get through before it gets to the road frown

Balanced = ~145. DOWN / 50.0 UP
PlusNet = 33.5 DOWN / 10.0 UP
Three = 120.0 DOWN / 40.0 UP
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Thu 22-Apr-21 16:49:29
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Which speedtest site did you use?

Try the BT one at: https://speedtest.btwholesale.com/ then Fast.com (also hit more info to see UPstream), TBB and Ookla at speedtest.net You will see some interesting variation ...


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Standard User jimbof
(regular) Thu 22-Apr-21 19:11:42
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I went live with Zen last week.

The Openreach engineer was a bit peeved as he spent a while poking and prodding the router to try and bring the connection to life, only to find out on calling them that Zen don't actually provision the service at their end until the Openreach engineer closes off the job and it shows on Zen's systems as live. So you can be in a bit of a catch 22 of the engineer wanting to see it working before closing the job, and it not being enabled until they close the job!

After he closed the job down the router came up within about 10 minutes.

I wonder if you might have had something similar.
Standard User simon194
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 23-Apr-21 09:52:58
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I used the TBB one.
Standard User Amjad
(learned) Sun 25-Apr-21 23:29:50
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In reply to a post by jimbof:
I went live with Zen last week.

The Openreach engineer was a bit peeved as he spent a while poking and prodding the router to try and bring the connection to life, only to find out on calling them that Zen don't actually provision the service at their end until the Openreach engineer closes off the job and it shows on Zen's systems as live.


Hi,

Did you find out if this is normal procedure for Zen or one off? My install is scheduled for early May, it would be good info to pass on to the installer.

Thanks.
Standard User jimbof
(regular) Mon 26-Apr-21 00:05:51
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The guy at Zen was very matter of fact, and said that until the engineer closed the job it wouldn't trigger provisioning at their side. (like "that's the way it is").
So I doubt it was a one off.
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