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Standard User gary333
(experienced) Tue 08-Jun-21 11:51:10
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Property UG duct hidden / FTTP entry


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Unhelpfully the previous owner of my property has removed the ducting (I assume connector bend 4) from groundlevel and pressumably screeded over the enterence due to making a once external porch area now internal within the property. I pressume they have simply cut the duct out (the vertical element). The copper multiple pair cable appears to been plasterboarded over on what would have been the exterior wall and the BT101 cover removed and the copper cable pushed straight through the wall.

Getting to the point, in preparation for FTTP I will need to figure out how to get the duct unblocked without damaging or blocking it. I just wanted to check if any form of termination box is needed now that the UG duct is now internal? For example could the fibre just mirror what they've done with the cooper cable and simply take the fibre straight from the UG JB directly through

Edited by gary333 (Tue 08-Jun-21 11:59:11)

Standard User FibreBubble
(learned) Tue 08-Jun-21 12:08:11
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Intercept outside and turn up exterior wall.

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In reply to a post by FibreBubble:
Intercept outside and turn up exterior wall.
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Standard User gary333
(experienced) Tue 08-Jun-21 12:21:25
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Unfortunately that isn’t possible as that element is now UPVC for a larger door and surround.
Standard User jpm
(member) Tue 08-Jun-21 12:28:10
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They'd just intercept further back and run the ducting to a new location. If you have a preference for what is done then it would help if you posted a photo.
Standard User gary333
(experienced) Tue 08-Jun-21 12:35:22
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I think I might have confused things in my explanation, apologies. I am hoping to “unhide” the existing ducting where hopefully part of the original below surface bend remains by removing the screed from it. I presume the previous owner wouldn’t have removed the underground duct, just the visible above ground elephants foot and the capping.

What I wanted to clarify is does the fibre need some form of “official” Openreach / BT capping from where it leaves the underground duct prior to where it enters the ONT or can I just put some form of basic ducting tacked to block work for fibre to exit and bung the remainder of the duct up?
Standard User jpm
(member) Tue 08-Jun-21 12:38:14
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If the ducting now comes up inside your property you will want to resolve that anyway, otherwise you could get gas or water from leaks coming up inside your house.
Standard User gary333
(experienced) Tue 08-Jun-21 12:43:32
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Totally understand but wouldn’t bunging it work for that (once bend is exposed) rather than digging up the drive? I’ve seen in commercial building the ducting running internally and they bung with a form of intumescent - I was hoping I could do something like that if that’s allowed?
Standard User gary333
(experienced) Tue 08-Jun-21 12:57:15
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Hopefully this picture will illustrate better than my babble smile

Inside:
https://ibb.co/zR1Cwqz

Neighbours House (with porch area as built)
https://ibb.co/bXy6sjS

Edited by gary333 (Tue 08-Jun-21 13:03:54)

Standard User kjwkjw
(regular) Tue 08-Jun-21 14:28:13
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If it was me I would probably try and move it back outside, if for no other reason that it means the engineers can always access the external part of the install (splice point etc)

That being said have read about plenty of other installs that have been done using the internal ducting.. I guess as long as its sealed off correctly it shouldn't matter.

The real issue is what if you dig down and either cant find/access it or its been blocked with rubble.. Then you have 2 areas to make good!!

Edited by kjwkjw (Tue 08-Jun-21 14:28:55)

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