FTTPoD exemptions

I'm doing some research on FTTPoD

Is this correct:

£615 deduction per linked order
£50 deduction per house passed not on the group order

If so, in rare theory it could pay for itself? I would think they would try and find a way to make it more expensive cx


Is FTTPoD showing up as FTTPoD 1000/220 a good sign?

In reply to a post by jjthejetplane:

Is FTTPoD showing up as FTTPoD 1000/220 a good sign?

Only in that FTTPoD is available. The speed you could obtain would depend entirely on what your chosen provider offers, with that being the maximum OR are providing there.

Any form of FTTP does of course provide the full connection speed of the option you choose, with the usual overheads absorbing a little of that.

In reply to a post by jjthejetplane:

Is this correct:

£615 deduction per linked order
£50 deduction per house passed not on the group order

If so, in rare theory it could pay for itself?

Very unlikely. "Properties passed" is a technical term, which means properties where the FTTP network is made available to connect to.

So a new fibre cable could run for a mile alongside 100 houses, and at the end is a single CBT which serves a cluster of 3 houses. In that case, the number of properties passed is 3, and the deduction would be £150 (or £100 not including the property on the order).

For FTTPoD, the largest number of properties passed is around a dozen, which is a CBT on the top of a pole which serves a dozen properties. A typical FTTPoD quote these days comes out in excess of £8,000+VAT, after all the deductions have been taken into account.

The properties passed deduction is Openreach offsetting the cost of your FTTPoD because they're getting some extra properties on the network at no cost to themselves (and acknowledging that some of those users may take service in future)

Edited by candlerb (Wed 23-Jun-21 14:44:46)

Thank you for clarifying.

For example:
Would "FTTP on demand build charge exemption per PON" be applied per order on a group order or as per one whole network?

In reply to a post by jjthejetplane:

Would "FTTP on demand build charge exemption per PON" be applied per order on a group order or as per one whole network?

It's only a guess, but I'd expect "per PON" means "per splitter" - i.e. a group of properties which are served from the same PON port on the OLT.

However this is all small beans compared to the total cost. Openreach can apply a £700 discount with one hand, and then charge whatever they like for labour and parts with the other. Recent quotes have shown a £495 "BT connection charge" which more or less cancels out the PON discount anyway.

Edited by candlerb (Wed 23-Jun-21 17:51:31)

BTW, there's an example of a quote for an order with six linked properties here: https://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/t/4658128-re...

There was a total PON / properties passed discount of £4,850

However the BT connection charge of £495 was applied 6 times, along with a Cerberus commissioning charge of £500, also applied 6 times - making total connection charges of £5,970

I can kinda understand the BT connection charge but the commission charge multiplied...