FTTP Not Available

Back in December 2020 i was woken up early one Sunday Morning by a hoard of openreach vehicles outside my house. They were installing Fibre from my local Cabinet approx 400mtrs away to a local ground working company's HQ who had apparently paid for this to be installed. this involved installing the equipment in the image below to the pole in my hedge. I spoke to one of the engineers at the time who said that this would make FTTP to my house available. we are now 10 months later and the Fibre checker still says its unavailable.
Does the fact that the fibre was paid for by the company make sharing it difficult. any help/advice would be appreciated.

https://imgur.com/F8RShXW

Firstly some background context...

FTTC cabinets have their exchange fibre connected to the same fibre spine/backbone as the FTTP network (they are part of the same GEA infrastructure) - however the fibre for FTTP does not actually run back to the FTTC cabinet itself. It actually originates from an optical node (an aggregation node) that will usually also serve the cabinet, if that makes sense. This node *may* be near to the FTTC cabinet or in the general vicinity or direction, which may be leading you to think the fibre installed runs to the cabinet.

The photo that you have taken is of an Openreach optical mini-node. Think that's a Prysmian CMJ unit. Typically these are positioned some part way up the pole.

If your commercial neighbours had an FTTP on Demand installation, then right at the top of the pole (or situated in an underground chamber, if the lines to premises are fed by duct) would be one of these CBT units...

https://postimg.cc/VJnC2xym

The CBT (connectorised block terminal) is what Openreach use to connect a premises drop-fibre connection into the FTTP network. Each 'nut' on the outside of the CBT hides a special port called an OptiTap terminal - this is where the drop fibre to the premises is connected. To be able to connect to WBC FTTP then you need to have one of these CBTs on your pole (or footway chamber) serving your property. Like this...

https://postimg.cc/McTYM19v

Can you see one of those one that pole or another serving pole for your neighbour - and can you see a drop fibre connection serving their premises?

Now to your question - *if* your property is served by the same pole (or chamber) as your neighbours FTTP connection (presuming they actually have one), then in theory there should be spare ports available on the CBT...

What does the BT Wholesale (address) checker say for the actual commercial presumes address (rather than your own)?

If this result for their address shows no FTTP active service and there is no evidence of a CBT, then I would say the fibre node on the pole is for a dedicated (fibre-based) leased line service for your neighbours rather than for FTTP. In which case that wont support WBC FTTP for you.

The likely explanation is that this was an EAD (ethernet) install, which has nothing to do with FTTP.

"ONEA" and the possible reference to a Y node are both terms I've used when discussing EAD.

Edited by jpm (Thu 14-Oct-21 11:24:00)

I spoke to one of the engineers at the time who said that this would make FTTP to my house available

Unfortunately, whilst engineers are well trained in the aspect of the work they are doing (such as attaching equipment to a pole), many of them don't properly understand the wider context.

As others have said: if this were an installation of a leased line it would have *zero* impact on the availability of FTTP to your property - or even the ability to take FTTP services within that same commercial property. They are two completely separate networks.

Put the commercial address into the BT Wholesale availability checker. If it does not show WBC FTTP (or shows only "Fibre on demand") then this definitely isn't FTTP.

I was thinking that jpm, but my serving EAD mini node in the chamber outside, looks like this..

https://postimg.cc/fk9CSJt5

The line ID (ONEAxxxxxxxx) and fibre node routing (Y numbers and T alphanumnersics) are hidden away in the splice trays and labelled on the CPE. It's not on public show.

If the OP can share a location then I can check the Openreach maps to see if it's a Y node

On the bright side, there probably wouldn’t be any ECCs for a private circuit with Openreach tails 😉

jpm

From the OPs picture.

ONEA 66256 or 66236
ON3220
YNEW/OA

Hi ..the location is Forester road Soberton Heath, i can pm you the actual location if required.

Who's CCTV camera? Can anyone stick a CCTV anywhere nowadays!