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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 20-Sep-12 09:07:20
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Re: Speed question


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In reply to a post by Kaytfoh:
The NTE5a's are the standard Openreach branded sockets arent they? The ones that come with bell wire removed as opposed to the BT with piper man logo sockets that still have it?
I repeat - the NTE5A is purely and simply the removable faceplate, and in fact so far as I know is no different when supplied with the current NTE5 from that supplied with earlier versions such as the Piper logoed one.

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Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost. Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.0/13.9Mbps @ 600m.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 20-Sep-12 11:48:11
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Re: Speed question


[re: ukhardy07] [link to this post]
 
Agreed, they are only every going to entertain it as a fault if happening multiple times in the same hour

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 20-Sep-12 12:24:33
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Re: Speed question


[re: 4M2] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by 4M2:
Are you saying that the dsl link is normally dropped at least once every 48 hours even though you leave the router powered on 24/7?

That seems to be the case going back through my posts here, even when I was capped at 3Mbps.

I've just had the follow up phone call, they said that the line has now been uncapped, it's actually been uncapped since they made the call yesterday. My stats are:

Time Connected: 22:40:56
Text
1
23
45
67
89
1011
1213
1415
1617
1819
2021
2223
2425
26
Status:
                  Configured    CurrentLine Status     ---     SHOWTIME
Link Type       ---     Fast PathOperation Mode  G992.5(ADSL2+)  G992.5(ADSL2+)
 Data Rate Information:
Stream Type     Actual Data RateUpstream        923 (Kbps.)
Downstream      7291 (Kbps.) 
Defect/Failure Indication:Operation Data          Upstream        Downstream
Noise Margin              7.3 dB        8.8 dBLine Attenuation        19.9 dB         33.5 dB
 Indicator Name          Near End Indicator      Far End Indicator
Output Power                           10.1 dBm         0.0 dBmFast Path FEC Correction                 0      0
Interleaved Path FEC Correction         NA      NAFast Path CRC Error                     1714    185
Interleaved Path CRC Error              NA      NALoss of Signal Defect                   10      0
Fast Path HEC Error STR                 7638    198Interleaved Path HEC Error              NA      NA
Error Seconds                           1371    30


I told the guy that I think I should be getting a slightly faster connection ~10Mbps or more. However he said that by line length I can only get 8Mbps, I didn't know whether to take this as; I've been completely uncapped and there's a possibility for my line to automatically sync at a higher speed. Or; We've capped you at 8Mbps because that's the maximum we believe your line can run.

I was told that if I experience a couple of disconnections within the next two or three days I should ring back.


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Standard User 4M2
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 20-Sep-12 12:59:18
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Re: Speed question


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Agreed, they are only every going to entertain it as a fault if happening multiple times in the same hour


It is possible that multiple dsl drops did occur within a very short space of time since the OP said that he has never been connected for longer than 2 days. Further, the OP may have been unaware of such multiple drops if he didn't have access to router logs or other means of recording the connection status.
Standard User 4M2
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 20-Sep-12 13:12:51
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Re: Speed question


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In reply to a post by beardedwonder:
...I told the guy that I think I should be getting a slightly faster connection ~10Mbps or more. However he said that by line length I can only get 8Mbps, I didn't know whether to take this as; I've been completely uncapped and there's a possibility for my line to automatically sync at a higher speed. Or; We've capped you at 8Mbps because that's the maximum we believe your line can run.

I was told that if I experience a couple of disconnections within the next two or three days I should ring back.


I really don't understand how that guy came to the conclusion that you can only get 8mbps since your downstream adsl2+ attenuation is 33.5dB and SNRM at 8.8dB.

Perhaps others can comment on the error rates etc. but they don't look too bad to me after an up time of more than 22 hours...

Edited by 4M2 (Thu 20-Sep-12 13:17:15)

Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 20-Sep-12 13:25:50
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[re: 4M2] [link to this post]
 
ES are par for the course; I reckon on 1 ES per min uptime on Fast Path.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 20-Sep-12 13:28:00
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Re: Speed question


[re: 4M2] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by 4M2:
I really don't understand how that guy came to the conclusion that you can only get 8mbps since your downstream adsl2+ attenuation is 33.5dB and SNRM at 8.8dB.

Perhaps others can comment on the error rates etc. but they don't look too bad to me after an up time of more than 22 hours...

Maybe I need to get the phone number for 3rd line support! If my service is uncapped then it may eventually sync at a higher speed. If i don't experience too many disconnections I will leave it for 10 days or so to see what happens, and then decide what to do.

Edited by deleted (Thu 20-Sep-12 13:29:00)

Standard User 4M2
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 20-Sep-12 13:34:20
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Re: Speed question


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by RobertoS:
I repeat - the NTE5A is purely and simply the removable faceplate, and in fact so far as I know is no different when supplied with the current NTE5 from that supplied with earlier versions such as the Piper logoed one.


New NTE5's with the "Openreach - a BT Group business - BT" external logo have an externally unmarked NTE5A faceplate that has connections 2,3 and 5 only. Hence a ring wire can still be used smile
Standard User 4M2
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 20-Sep-12 13:45:13
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Re: Speed question


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In reply to a post by beardedwonder:
Maybe I need to get the phone number for 3rd line support! If my service is uncapped then it may eventually sync at a higher speed. If i don't experience too many disconnections I will leave it for 10 days or so to see what happens, and then decide what to do.


I believe the sync speed is established when the router syncs to the exchange so just leaving it may not achieve much. During the monitoring period, however, if and when the dsl drops then you may see an increase in sync speed after a reconnection...
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 20-Sep-12 13:58:51
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Re: Speed question


[re: 4M2] [link to this post]
 
It is also possible that I am the queen of sheba

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
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