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Anyone heard anymore about the OnLive UK launch scheduled, according to OnLive's UK site as 22 September?
Pricing etc not announced by BT yet?
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Do you actually think this on live will actually take of in this country,i mean its not exactly doing the business in the US now is it.
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I dont think it will.
UK net is far slower than US, average speed in the UK is what? 4-6mb? With really bad usage limits in some cases.
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Not a chance, too early in the UK, most connections here are snail speed at best.
It's like the Cloud, great idea in principal (well kinda...) but we just don't have the infrastructure in place for it to become common place.
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US net is good where its fibre/DOCSIS 3 services are available, but still pretty normal to find 3Meg cable services as the only option, or just one DSL provider with no retailer options.
What I've found is US people tend to just get on and use their connections, in UK we like to moan first.
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I thought it was exclusive with BT for present which should take usage limits out of the question for the BT products which supply the Onlive service? I agree that when it is offered more widely than usage becomes an issue.
Speed is also a bit scary. 5mg absolute minimum needed for HD feeds I think although SD comes in at a more reasonable 1.5 - 3 meg.
I'm interested in those PC exclusives that I can't get on my 360. Would be happy to pay for the one or two of those I want to play rather than shell out for a new PC! i would love MMO to come to onlive.
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I know their datacenters are apparently ran by BT in the UK, im not sure if its a BT exclusive service, if it is then it is ultimately doomed since BT provide some of the worst speeds and service.
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They say BT are their preferred partner on their webpage but I was sure I read exclusive partner - that may have changed. Not sure.
(P.S. OT but I'm with BT and their speeds are great!)
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BT have been trialling it for ages so it must work otherwise they wouldn't release it
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I wouldn't mind trialling it as my speed would not be an issue.
I'm just not sure that I would want to limit the people I could play with. Most of my friends are not lucky enough to have fibre available to them yet and probably won't for many years in their villages.
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I do have my doubts about the service but I must admit I'm sure casual gamers or non-gamers would be interested in this, no set top box just a joypad.
Some TV's these days come built to run web browsing/java games. I'm not saying its the future (no console or gaming PC) but I'm sure there's a market it just might take a bit of time.
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but I'm sure there's a market it just might take a bit of time.
I'm inclined to agree there.
I have read somewhere about usage being around 1.6GB per 30 minutes of play. I'm not a broadband expert, but maybe these deals being done with providers will lead to huge increases in available bandwidth that could produce better rates for all users? Would upscaling of available bandwith produce more competitive pricing in the long run? We have very cheap BB deals around but they don't provide for priority streaming on this level. Could this sort of thing be a driver for where we should be heading anyway if it weren't for financial constraints?
If so that would be a bonus.
I'm pretty hardcore with COD on my PS3 but would still enjoy being able to play half an hour free on a plethora of titles in a casual manner and then rent or buy access to them if I wished.
I don't think one will necessarily need to replace the other. I'm all for the extra choice as long as it's done well enough. 
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Yep for sure I don't see it replacing either more complimenting and being used by people that don't have any console/gaming PC at all.
If that bandwidth usage is true it will be interesting to see how BT tackle that, I'm sure (or would like to hope) that even if your on a limited download package with BT the gaming traffic will not count towards your usage limit, like BT Vision doesn't because your paying for an added service on top already.
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http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18...
Toward the bottom of the OP is the usage claim. Obviously not substantiated but interesting all the same.
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I dont see it getting very far - most people would have a PC/Mac/Linux or a console for playing and if you didn't you wont want to play.
I dont see a case for it myself...
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So perfect for those who want a go but don't want to outlay cash on a PC or Console
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Pretty much yes, its perfect for people who just want to "casually game", personally i dont believe there is much of a market for such a unit, plus whos going to have super fast net if they aren't gaming/doing stuff to make the line worth it?
Majority of gamers will want no compromise in their experience, Onlive has plenty of compromise which will have to be made.
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Not sure what you mean superfast? There must be plenty of people interested in causal gaming that have a decent connection already just by how close they are to their exchange nothing to do with gaming? i.e. people on LLU/ADSL2+ over 10Mb ADSL (5Mbps+ recommended for Onlive)
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Doubt it - they will either not have a go at all, or get a console...
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Well ideally they'll need the bandwidth of the 5mb+ assuming their line is reliable too, majority of UK ISP's only use interleaving which will be giving them higher latency.
Superfast was kind of the wrong term to use as i was thinking of a quality connection over all, FUP's included.
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But at that time BT vision is a service provided by BT, i dont think they could get away with charging for it 
The question is though the majority of people who arent interested in gaming are more likely to own a wii or something, even 360's these days are relatively cheap. If someone buys into onlive you would have to think what would they be wanting to play that hasnt made them want to buy a console anyway? Because over time they are probably going to be spending more an onlive sub than buying a console + game or two of their choice. With the preowned market and usual month or two after launch price drops tanking game prices it would probably work out cheaper for them.
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Until we know the prices how do we know? Access to a growing list of digital titles for a fee per month does have its charm. Just like with film rental I'm sure you'd end up playing some games you wouldn't have tried if you'd had to buy them.
I've no idea if it will work but I'm not writing it off, its the way films will go so why not games (for some). Look how many people on facebook (not gamers at all) play games just because its there as an option. How many iPhone users weren't gamers before but now play games
You could also argue that some 360/PS3 titles are done in single player mode in 10-15hrs, why not play 5 of these a month and finish them instead of buy one game?
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True that, if you are willing to sacrifice the quality then it might just be a worth while investment.
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I guess it depends on how good your current PC/Laptop is or how much the adapter/joypad is
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I guess it depends on how good your current PC/Laptop is or how much the adapter/joypad is
Apparently in the US it's $99 for the "micro console and wireless controller" (an extra controller is $50 dollars).
If that actually translates to 60 or 70 quid over here (which it really should if they want to give it a good start) then I can see people finding that reasonable.
If they can get a good catalogue of current games on board then it would be a quick and easy way to try before you buy. Extra choice can only be a good thing in my opinion.
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Bt have 2.6% shareholding in Onlive
My views are my experiences.
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And another reason not to bother with the service because BT have to be one of the worse companies to inhabit planet earth.
Every experience I have had with BT has been horrendous ,from reporting a fault,to changing a package you name it totally useless. 
Edited by time2die (Mon 26-Sep-11 19:40:38)
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http://www.gamerzines.com/pc/news/onlive-uk-demand-o...
All you can eat for £7.00 a month? If the graphics are near enough then it could do well.
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They use 720p which doesnt help as most have 1080p monitors I suspect, but good size for ipad etc
At 4Meg and above its actually pretty good and enjoyable. You don't have the same wow look at the detail moments, and long range sniping might be harder.
As long as the games on the £6.99 bundle keep refreshing, new games look a bit expensive.
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I'm starting to think about checking out the all you can eat package. Kids are getting too old for Disney channel so cancelling that on Sky would pay for it.
http://onlivefans.com/news/onlive-games-that-are-com...
I know the graphics won't be 1080, but PS3 isn't and I would get to play gamesike Red Orchestra, Limbo, Borderlands 2 and Saints Row the Third?
My connection should breeze it with plenty room to spare. Sounds like an excellent deal for casual gaming IF it really runs at 720. Are the micro console and controller WiFi?
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Pad is wireless 360 ish feel, the console is not wireless. I would test on a TV if this is your plan for it, before any outlay, I think this will be its Achilles heel.
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The graphics quality may be a little lacking on a big screen 40 inch plus, but a 32 inch it would be ok, but not same as the console.
Given cost of games, if the package has a good number you enjoy playing, but are not addicted to, then its good value. Cost of buying games outright on it, looks expensive, but am betting that is down to deals with suppliers.
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