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I know mine and Nellys choice
And it won't be the first one 
Dam my trigger fingers can not wait to get my mitts on this game 
Edited by time2die (Tue 29-Apr-14 18:24:31)
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Does it have any re-playability though ?
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There isn't a choice. Anybody planning to do anything other than go loud, should stick to their Mills and Boon novels.,
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Actually their is as that video was likely played on the lowest difficutly settings to show off the loud way.
I have watched a few dev sessions of them playing through, you need to balance loud and stealth together, otherwise once the alarm is tripped you face too many enemies and loose health and die.
I will wait for the reviews once the game has been released, could be worth waiting a while for it to drop in price if theirs little replayability.
If you take dishonored their where challenges to not kill anyone or been seen at all.
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Your not related to Swanny by any chance are you��..Waiting for the price to drop  you for real or what ?
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Do any Games come to think of it
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You haven't learnt yet have you 
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LOTR Battle for middle earth 2 does
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Actually I have looked at the £47 tag and if its true that there is no multiplayer to extend play value beyond campaign then its too much for me.
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Its called being realistic, if i will only get 10 or so hours playing the game why would i play full price.
I mostly buy pc games and anything over £20-25 i will either wait till it drops or buy it if it has a decent enough multiplayer- ie something that will give a few hundred hours of playtime.
Too many people pre-order games and then find once they are released that they broken and unfinished, its better to wait for the independent reviews to see if a game is worth buying.
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The previous Wolfenstein did have re-playability. And Red Faction does too.
Edited by deleted (Wed 30-Apr-14 17:48:09)
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No Swanny unlike you i support developers and pay full price for retail games and don't wait for bargain bin prices 12/18 months down the line
If we where all like you then there would be no developers/games or Gaming industry,imagine watchdogs or any other game gets released and we all sit back and wait for a price drop a year later.
How could there ever be a Gaming division or any more money for game development,so think carefully with your words as the likes of me keeps people like you happy.
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They still make money from me, but I decide how much
They can't rip me off with their over priced games
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And even less so when the game is buggy...
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I'm sure they don't care about me and my business so I'm not too bothered about them and theirs
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I'm sure they don't care about me and my business so I'm not too bothered about them and theirs Fair point!
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They still make money from me, but I decide how much
They can't rip me off with their over priced games Not really a fair point!
A pint of beer or a cinema ticket are barometers for me. I'd much rather get 10 hours out of a game than an hour and a half out of a movie (for damn nearly a tenner round these parts  )
I don't care about replayability for forty five quid, though historically I've rarely paid more than forty anyway. I do care if the game is laggy as hell (for whatever reason) or buggy as Toady says. Timey is right about supporting the industry, especially if you want to keep it creative. Opting out because you can't or won't justify the funds is fair enough, but you can't call games rip offs willy nilly.
What's funny is that everybody raves about BF and it's multiplayer, yet BF4 was and in some areas still is, a mess. I don't want to play a buggy game, so I certainly wouldn't want to replay a buggy game.
That's why games like Watchdogs and DriveClub should be well worth the extra wait I reckon.
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What's funny is that everybody raves about BF and it's multiplayer, yet BF4 was and in some areas still is, a mess.
Its why it's not terribly popular and people have stayed away from it.
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Last game I paid full price for was BF:BC2 and I am happier paying sub £30 but I do agree that £40 is still a fair price for a good game when you consider how many hours of entertainment you get from it. By good it needs to be GTA 5/TLOU good
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Difference been Millions do care about there business and a few care about yours
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The gaming industry is so large and diverse now their are multiple revenue streams for publishers and developers.
You still have the AAA titles and their dlc season passes which are dropped content to make you pay more, free to play titles with their stores which range from LOL/DOTA2 to games like farmville which all make large amounts of money.
You have a growing indie scene and alot of crowd funded games- Star Citizen has over $20 million dollars for development for example.
Gamers have alot more choice on multple platforms so theirs not always a need to go out and buy the next big game- wait for the reviews to see if its worth buying as alot of games are not always finished.
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Yeah I agree with your last paragraph,problem is I'm addicted to buying games,especially when they end up been must have quality products which by all accounts isn't to often.
I have high hopes for Watchdogs and Wofenstein in May so I hope they play as good as they look.
Seen many times over the years from most the gaming sites praising games in previews and developer interviews and walkthroughs only to see the finished product slaughtered at the review stage.
And I won't be surprised if the likes of Edge Magazine or so called website Polygon if they mark one or even both with scores below what the majority give.
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Gamers have alot more choice on multple platforms So if I buy all the other platforms, I will only need to buy 100 odd games at 20 quid before I start to make a saving on my 40 quid PS4 titles?
It's very simple. Most AAA tiles are worth the money. If you are prepared to wait and save a few quid, good on you, but that doesn't make the title poor value in the first place. Yes I could save money by dropping the PS4 for a PC, but then there's all the hidden costs of PC gaming.
Tank tops, Clarke's real leather uppers...
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Does it have any re-playability though ?
If a game looks and plays good and has you gripped to play a little bit more and is hard to switch of then regardless of price and the fact it has no multiplayer is fine by me.
Most games have multiplayer tacked on and usually end up been utter garbage anyway,take the fantastic Far Cry 3 And the Tomb raider games to name just 2 as prime examples of multiplayer people forget 10 minutes after playing it.
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The problem is, after completing a single-player game within 72 hours, will it also suffer the same fate as multi-players modes, and you just forget about it...
I dont feel that £40 is worth paying for a game that'll be completed within such a short timeframe, especially if there is nothing new when you restart.
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Problem is Toady there are no games that take 72 hours to complete and if they did i would call that extreme value for money even without multiplayer.
Most games have a 8 hour campaign if your lucky and Infamous i finished in around 12 but what a ride that game was.
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nearly every game I play has a campaign of 72+ hours.
the only genre that I know off that has very short campaigns is FPS which isnt surprising as FPS gamers seem to only care about multiplayer so single player is something bolted on.
A few I have played with shorter campaigns feel empty and incomplete.
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Im talking normal AAA games mate not your obscure Mrpg games that you love with a passion.
Think Tomb Raider,Far Cry 3, and most normal games that get released and you get the picture.
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There is AAA games that are not FPS.
fable games, final fantasy games, dragon age games, dark souls games, plus I would consider at least half of my rpg's to be AAA games.
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Ok there are some 40 to 70 hours gameplay games but the majority of single player games i have owned haven't lasted much beyond 12 hours.
Are there games that are not FPS Blimey where have i been
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I usually complete FPS games within 2 days - the last Wolfenstein game took a bit longer, mainly because I got a bit.. lost...
RAGE and Far Cry 2 also took a bit longer due to the rather unrequired side-missions.
That is, of course, not non-stop playing...
Edited by deleted (Thu 08-May-14 16:41:28)
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Rage I gave up with after about 30 minutes ,all hype over substance that one and many more if I'm honest
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You quitter!
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You know me then
If a game don't grab me within 10 minutes .....it's traded ,it's similar to when I listen to music,I know within seconds if the music I'm listening to is something I'm going to like...
Same with a game the minute it loads,have a great intro ,menu system,decent opening music to set the scene then that's a starter
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That is why I am so careful about buying a game, and insist a playable demo is available before I even possibly think about maybe possibly getting it.
I'm still waiting for the demo of Arma 3 (which they say they will do doing), as that may be the way to go instead of Battlefield. But until one is released, and I can play it, my money is firmly out of Bohemia's grasp. I do of course, sent tweets to Bohemia every so often, suggesting they get a move on with a demo (the last one was enquiring whether it will come out this century).
Its a philosophy that all players should take really - it really makes be chuckle when idiots, er.. I mean dedicated players slap down money before know what the game is like...
It should also be noted that the only reason I bought Battlefield 3 was because Novalogic aren't supporting DFX 2, although it could be said they never supported it to start with...
So, if short - if a games company wants my lovely, lovely money, they have to earn it!
Edited by deleted (Thu 08-May-14 21:21:17)
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Its a philosophy that all players should take really - it really makes be chuckle when idiots, er.. I mean dedicated players slap down money before know what the game is like�
Very Funny Toady
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A Timey and his money are easily parted
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When it comes to new games and technology your correct
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8 days and counting and hopefully we have a game worth talking about with Wolfenstein and then one worth shouting about a week later with Watchdogs����.Nelly what you getting matey��Wolf or Watch or both.
If its the later only prepare to be ripped to shreds by Timey if you play it with online enabled because I'm coming for you at every opportunity
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I think Watch only for now. It just looks too damn good to put down and after playing Second Son I think Wolf would be a little too "on rails". I will definitely pick it up later, perhaps in the summer drought, along with Tomb Raider PS4.
But I'm hoping we can chat in game so that I can let you know when you're in smackdown town.
Bring it Brum. 
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You chat..... I thought you was all quiets and shy and reserved ...
When you get Timeys review of Wolf come late Tuesday night or even earlier if Shopto post it Saturday then you won't be waiting until the Summer months and you will be straight down the Supermarket
Unless pray to The Lord it ends up utter pants,if it does based on what I have seen I will be totally gobsmacked.
Edited by time2die (Mon 12-May-14 19:21:37)
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I was going to wait for this but since another game I wanted got put back (Elderscrollsonline) I've decided to bite the bullet and order it, as there is only so much Fifa and BF4 I can play.
I apologise now for anyone who has ordered Sniper Elite 3 as that is going to be put back as well as I've just ordered that.
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Yeah i ordered Sniper Elite 3 so thanks for that .
June 27th I've got so what do you know thats different .
Tempted to get Mario Kart 8 but with Wolf and Watch to keep me occupied i see little point even though all the gaming websites are raving on about the WII U Mario Kart thats about 18 months to late and Nintendo seriously need to wake up and smell the coffee.
Saying that so do Microsoft and Sony���..You don't release consoles with limited to no games to go with it��.Period���Lesson over
Edited by time2die (Tue 13-May-14 14:13:43)
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with mario kart slowly all the free games listed are dropping to £25, pikmin went down to £25 in the past 7 days.
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That's a decent price and you can understand the price drops given the state of the Wii U console sales,apparently Microsoft are now offering the Xbox One without Kinnect,the gimmick nobody wanted in the first place and is basically a massive paper weight with little in the way of software to support it......Again.....
Kinnect Sports....what a load of utter Garbage that is and it's about time Rare just gave up or go back to making great original games of the Nintendo 64 days .
Microsoft have obviously destroyed the once great Rare when Aquiring them early 2000,because grey haven't produced one single decent game since.
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It was a big mistake to have kinnect inbuilt so it's good they have listened to gamers and removed it. Will make it more competitive with the PS4. Nothing they can do about it being less powerful and harder to program for though.
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Problem is all the early adopters have been well and truly shafted,everybody but Microsoft new the Kinnect would be doomed and nobody cares and that includes developers.
So we have paid £100 more for a device which Microsoft claims was the future of Xbox One and was needed to have a fully working complete console,now we have a giant paper weight that nobody will be slightly interested in after another about turn from Microsoft.
Personally i would never have bought a Xbox One with Kinnect as there is little reason to ever have the device in the first place,but it was rammed down our throats that it was compulsory and they would never sell Xbox Ones without it.
If only this was the original idea and the consumer had a choice,personally i think they should reimburse all those that bought the Launch models but they won't ,should let you trade in the useless piece of junk at your local Game store for a credit.
And the biggest laugh releasing a product with Kinnect as your top priority and releasing nothing in the way of software to go with it.
Its great news for people thinking of going down the Xbox One route but a kick in the teeth to the real supporters of game companies .
To be honest i could sell my Xbox One tomorrow and wouldn't miss it,and boy oh boy do i wish this console had passed me bye and i had stuck with my original idea of having just a playstation 4 for this generation instead of all of them once again.
My Thoughts Exactly
Edited by time2die (Sat 17-May-14 08:12:21)
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iLumiroom does look sweet in principle. I think that requires Kinect? Other than that I don't see the point in forcing it. I only got a PS4 camera because the mega bundle meant it was effectively free and I have three kids that use it.
Maybe project Morpheus will need it, but is Timey too chicken to take the Red pill?
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Yeah the Killzone mega bundle or whatever they called it included the camera so it was a freebie,and it's another device that is connected to the Playstation 4 that never ever gets used.
I'm seriously thinking of taking them both out to be honest.
Anyway Nelly"............Wolfenstein........In Or Out
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It's good they have listened to what gamers have been saying but you are right it's a kick in the teeth for the ones who have already got a XBOX and who most likely have no interest in Kinnect. Also making changes this soon and trying to play catch up just shows they have no idea what they are doing. Doesn't exactly give you confidence in them. Still they could come good if they bring some really great exclusives to the system.
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microsoft did a mini nintendo.
They were arrogant enough to assume they could bundle a kinect forcefully, as well as employ over the top anti consumer policies without losing market share. They relied on the brand name and hype alone to sell the units.
Obviously we know they abandoned many of the anti consumer policies pre launch due to massive bad press, but the sales numbers have forced them to now abandon the forced kinect, also the weak spec of the xbox one is also likely partically due to this over confidence as well, the ps4 is also weaker than it should be but since its the strongest out there they got away with it (for now).
Keeping bad policies in place just to please early adopters is a bad move to make, if they kept that policy then they would e.g. carried on selling the RROD 360 model all the way until EOL on 360 just to not annoy the early adopters of that generation. The world of technology doesnt stand still, if you buy an electrical product early, you have to 'expect' something better to happen at some point that reduces the value of your purchase.
I said during the launch, buying early doesnt make a lot of financial sense, prices will drop, policies will change, the units will get updated etc. But obviously some people cant wait hence those who brought the consoles. 6-7 months after launch and I still dont find myself craving to get one of these newer gen consoles.
Edited by Chrysalis (Sun 18-May-14 00:02:08)
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The world of technology doesnt stand still, if you buy an lectrical product early, you have to 'expect' something better to happen at some point that reduces the value of your purchase
The same applies at whatever point in the cycle you buy a product. If you buy it cheap at the last minute you are playing with old technology when the early adopters move onto the newer models.
You keep beating the same old drum, but I'm not quite sure why. If you want it but don't want to pay the asking price, don't buy early. If you want it but simply can't afford it, don't buy it and wait for a price drop. But if it werent for early adopters you wouldn't have either option would you?
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What you say i tend to have to agree with and i remember your comments pre next generation console release,however if your in to your tech devices and you love Gaming then there will always be millions that will jump in and buy Launch models because that is human nature.
I don't have a single problem regarding my launch playstation 4 and don't for one minute regret buying it,my gripe with all these consoles is the extended wait for decent software.
Infamous was pure brilliance but that came 5 months later,and on a personal level i don't see one single must have game on the Xbox One,Titanfall is decent but its not the killer title i thought it would be and it was the only reason i ended up with a Xbox One.
Come Monday I'm sure i will be a little more happier when i load up Wolfenstein,and then a week Tuesday I'm hoping that Watchdogs is really going to get my passion for gaming rekindled and it ends up living up to all the press hype.
Be interesting to see the review in the next few days for both these games,my thoughts on Wolfenstein later on tomorrow night .
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Good boy
Im guessing yours has been sent and despatched like mine and you will get it a day early on Monday.
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Nope.
Will have to order it this afternoon.
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Well for someone that's been raving about it the last 12 months and he didn't pre order it,and then we have Timey here that thought it looked a little Naff at the time has it on his order schedule.
You still getting Watchdogs ,you must have that on order
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Nope.
Will have to order it this afternoon.
I give you a Mini review tomorrow afternoon,I'm going to give it a quick blast for sure .
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Nope lol!
Defo ordering that this afternoon though. The trouble is mate, I keep waivering over Wolfenstein. I know I'll love it, but I'll only get a couple of hours maximum this week to play it and then Watchdogs will be out. I reckon I might skip it you know and just go for Watchdogs first.
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Until I post something really good about Wolfenstein then I will have you changing your mind.
You know it has to be mire sic and impressive to get me writing positive stuff ,I pick the bones out of most games and it has to be a class product for me to write good things about games.
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I agree so why you saying I am beating the old drum dont know, I just responded to what someone said .
The way I see it, you either buy early, but know you wont be getting the best value for money as prices 'will' drop. At the same time you get to use the product earlier tho.
Or you wait and later on is more games to pick from, revised product and cheaper prices.
Or even dont buy at all.
Consumer choice, this choice is what drives the market. This change from microsoft is a good thing in my eyes. Shows the consumer still has some power.
Clearly not enough chose option 1 hence microsoft's rethink.
Of course I recognise when I say value for money, I am pure talking ££ for hardware, there is value in the entertainment, buying a product early gives you enjoyment hence that has to be factored in. If there was a killer game on the launch line up for me I may well have brought at launch.
Edited by Chrysalis (Sun 18-May-14 21:44:45)
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Killzone Shadowfall was the so called Killer game for the playstation 4 and in some respects it lives up to a few expectations but killer game console seller its not.
Same can be said with Ryse on the Xbox One and its suppose killer game for the system,i bought it,thought it looked ok,bashed a few buttons and got bored 40 minutes later and traded it the following day.
At present Infamous Second son is a Playstation 4 seller ,Titanfall is the Xbox One Equivalent and these are the only 2 games worth buying for either system until something AAA comes along.
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I meant killer game for me, not everyone is into the same type of games.
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I basically said there were no killer games on either system and i wasn't referring to you.
Your better of sticking with a Nintendo Snes where you can play all those JRPG to your hearts content
Edited by time2die (Mon 19-May-14 05:25:55)
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nintendo pretty much has no english jrpg's on wii-u
The 2 I got for my wii-u are wii games played on BC.
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