The Witcher

Playstation 4 footage looks great to me

And the clips of the Xbox One version look mighty fine also.

Lets hope the game's as good as it looks

I don't think I'm going to enjoy it as much as bloodborne if I'm honest as its heavy in the rpg department with lots of talking and ncp conversations and all what you expect in a very rich Rpg .

But its a massive Game and its got huge potential if you can stick with the 100 plus hours that it takes to complete.

Developers have been quoted as saying to see and do everything will take you 200 hours,now if you fall in love with the game and characters associated with it then thats value for money which puts most games to shame in this day and age.

And with that amount of content i wander exactly how long this game has been in development,probably well before the release of the latest consoles.

As i expected.

Edited by time2die (Fri 15-May-15 13:57:03)

Great so the consoles are going to hold us back yet again. How long until PS5?
Why don't they make consoles upgradeable?
I think they need to move away from the current idea, it's too restrictive

Honest appraisal here of just the technical performance on PS4.

I am tempted. I've got to start Tomb Raider Definitive Edition today (cheers Kila ) so I should be able to resist for a week or two. If I Ieave it too long it might fall by the wayside in the summer, but I quite fancy a horseback adventure. Echoes of Read Dead and all that.

Or even RED Dead Redemption

I know I'm a fine one to talk and point out spelling typos .

I'm tempted but like Nelly says, summers here so I'll wait until autumn and the correct price

WITCHER 2: ASSASSINS OF KINGS, THE - ENHANCED EDITION
£3.99

http://www.gog.com/game/the_witcher_2?pp=3c6f432e391...

Shame my old PC won't run it

Edited by deleted (Sat 16-May-15 13:29:40)

yeah I got witcher 1 whilst on the current offer (already own witcher 2) then used it to get discount on witcher 3 for owning both games.

By the way its probable if you buy the steam version you will get a key to use on gog for a free backup gog version.

Xbox one footage.

If you want to upgrade a console may aswell get a gaming PC

In reply to a post by time2die:

Or even RED Dead Redemption

I know I'm a fine one to talk and point out spelling typos .

I once knew a little red head who could offer anything but redemption.

Spelling wasn't her strongest suit either...

Edited by mrnelster (Sun 17-May-15 09:33:25)

Exactly

In reply to a post by Lt_Swan:

Great so the consoles are going to hold us back yet again. How long until PS5?
Why don't they make consoles upgradeable?
I think they need to move away from the current idea, it's too restrictive

I think a graphics card upgrade option would be nice, even as an externally connected unit of some sort. That would sort the people who buy for platform and exclusives out, from the people who would like regular performance increase but can't stand all that operating system nonsense. Steam have realised that, but we'll see if it gathers any momentum next year.

Here is a good comparisn video of the results of different settings on PC. I've not really seen one done quite so well and the gains are obvious even on a small phone screen.

For example, on my phone screen the higher "track detail" setting's weren't really discernible. The higher settings on AA and reflections showed very obvious improvements though. Textures on Ultra were obviously improved too, but a bigger screen would better highlight the texture differences and whether they were worthwhile.

I said to Timey the other night, I make a very real distinction between gaming and sims. I'm not interested in gaming on a PC. I literally can't be ars*d with settings on everything. Plug and play is why I buy consoles. But Project Cars is worth the extra hassle of setting up for me. I've got the hump already with the rotation settings on my F1 car, because hair pins require crossed hands and there isn't any easy way (it seems) to alter that on the consoles.

So get on with it Swanny and buy a PC and stop moaning about consoles and give us all a break.

For the amount your willing to spend on a PC i wouldn't get to excited.you can spend that amount on a top of the range Graphic card alone.

I spent £2000 on a Gaming Rig from Scan Computers and that was 12 years ago and its been on the scrap heap the last 6.

Edited by time2die (Sun 17-May-15 15:41:25)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl23VOroRFI

Ok Timey what's your time scale on the next PS/xbox being made?
The current gen are already getting old hat so I can't imagine them lasting another 5 years especially with how fast things are moving.
Maybe you don't think there will be any next gen consoles?

well nintendo are dumping the wii-u, new console in 2016, looks like they going the sega route and dumping all their users who brought a wii-u. When sega did this they failed so bad they stopped making consoles.

Its me who thinks there will be no next gen consoles sony will move to cloud. Microsoft seems to be moving a bit towards back to pc gaming and are trying to make their xbox an all in one entertainment centre so not focused on games.

Actually Swanny myself and Nelly was having a chat Friday afternoon and that question did arise.

We haven't after 2 years seen anything i would call mind blowing but The Witcher and Bloodborne and the next Naughty Dog Uncharted in 2016 will certainly be there in terms of Next gen

You see before this new upgrade both the playstation 3 and xbox 360 were around for 8 years which was the longest ever period between generations changing,one or two things will happen and the first is Nintendo forcing there hand because its common knowledge confirmed by Nintendo that they are developing another console and will talk about it in 2016.

And the second is Cloud Based gaming as thats were the future is and it will mean that they can develop what they want and it will be just like that in your living room and you wont have to worry about upgrades and graphical differences from high end PCs.

I still think we need a better uk based broadband infrastructure for the cloud thing to work and i think its a few years of.

My guess is Nintendo with there new stuff and what they do early 2016 with there announcement and release date,i feel Nintendo this time around will go for a more mature market and give up on the gimmick that is the Nintendo Wii and Wii U,that audience has evaporated and Nintendo are now the poorer of the 3 console makers.

They didn't even include a Adsl connection in there Wii U and there out of touch with what gamers require and how they adore online games,lots of developers shun there systems and this hurts Nintendo financially and its about time they got back on track.

So if they announce there system early 2016 with specs that blow both the playstation 4 and the Xbox One out of the window then the [censored] going to hit the fan and force both Microsoft and Sony hand.

But take it from me ,both are well aware of what Nintendo have in the pipeline and it would be totally foolish to wait around to see what Nintendo brings to the table.

My guess is both are already developing future consoles after hearing about Nintendo,what would really kick start a next generation war would be Sega rejoining the market,sadly i don't see this happening.

Oh and whatever happened to those steam Boxes......Anyone know ?,Anyone care? Anyone buying one ? and when if ever are they releasing them.

You see i don't agree with the fact they are dumping all there Wii U customers,its the developers who are giving up developing for a under powered console that shouldn't really have been released in the first place.

They released first to market which was a bonus but third party support and a system not really much better than a wii was never going to be around for the next 8 years.

Even there New Zelda has slipped into 2016 and games are very sparse on the Nintendo Wii U.

They have some excellent games on the Nintendo Wii U but sadly they are far and few between,and if there are multi platforms titles on all 3 systems then Nintendo version is always way inferior,not only that it turns up 6 months after the original release.........Example.......Watchdogs

nintendo seemed to get themselves stuck in between two things.

They released the wii-u to keep third party devs happy as they said the wii was too weak, but then those devs said the wii-u is also too weak (as at the time they had access to ps4 and xbox1 dev kits).

Sega had issues with their last 2 console generations, when the sega32x failed, they quickly dumped it and made something newer, but the consumers got so [censored] off with the rapid release they stopped trusting sega and didnt buy what they released, the wii-u has been a disaster, I mean where is the new zelda game? Nintendo abandoned the EU tv service thing they had planned, the wii-u website still looks like its in development (probably abandoned) and 3rd party support is almost dead, ps3 has more 3rd party support than wii-u.

In my mind nintendo should give every wii-u owner either a free console (NX or whatever its called) or at least a significant discount, but they wont, so people will be [censored] off and the NX will fail big time.

The ps4 and xbox1 are both capable of excellent games, I have said in the past I think graphics are not everything, and I still stand by that, likewise tho the ps3 is still capable of excellent games, and only 2 hours ago I ordered 2 more jrpg's for the ps3.

The problems as I see it is the AAA industry has got into 2 main problems.

1 - Safety first, they prefer to release annual sequels to established franchises such as call of duty, vs trying new things. Because its not so risky on their investment. First person shooters sell well, so this has also led to FPS games having a too big share of the market.
2 - Obsession with visuals/graphics, and now also resolution. I am not against a game looking beautiful, however I am when it comes at a clear price, such as dropping framerates, lack of gameplay, expensive development meaning expensive game with lots of DLC. They also dig themselves a hole when they show one set of visuals at E3, and then a year or two later at release its all been downgraded. Sometimes entire elements of gameplay shown at E3 arent even in the final product. I also dont agree with the practice of downgrading pc versions of games because sony/microsoft wont like it when their consoles look worse.

What they need to do is firstly dont show things at E3 that dont resemble the final game, that will stop people talking about visual downgrades, also stop announcing what resolutions etc. are used on what platform, gamers if they dont know wont notice as proven before. Concentrate on gameplay and less on visuals, and try new IP out instead of annual COD games.

steam boxes exist but I am still of the opinion they will never be relevant. God knows what valve were thinking with those things.

I dont think another console cycle will happen for awhile. It costs MS/Sony too much money in R&D to keep throwing out new consoles. MS spend £100 million just on the design of the controller

We need devs to stop making games for the last gen first. Until that happens we just get 360/PS3 games with a high res texture for the current gen consoles. Witcher 3 was current gen only and it looks amazing from all accounts even on console. Devs will get to grips with the technology and squeeze more power out of these consoles, so they're far from dead

hmm the issue wont go away.

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/45188/cd-projekt-red-r...

i dont get why these console vs PC comparison videos even appear. Its obvious that a dedicated gaming PC with the latest graphics cards and huge memory is going to look better than a console that cannot be upgraded, so what are the videos trying to prove?

...so what are the videos trying to prove?

They're fuel to the fires of gamers who claim graphics aren't as important as gameplay, then blame the console manufacturers for forcing a grass downgrade on them.

Oh, and then accuse everybody else of being a fanboy of whichever platform.

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

God knows what valve were thinking with those things.

It's a gesture of inclusiveness to those of us with girlfriends.

And the second is Cloud Based gaming as thats were the future is and it will mean that they can develop what they want and it will be just like that in your living room and you wont have to worry about upgrades and graphical differences from high end PCs.

I still think we need a better uk based broadband infrastructure for the cloud thing to work and i think its a few years of.

It's years away. Imagine taking any game and adding your current internet latency to every input, on top of the current display cycle?

I have an average 10ms ping. Most people in the UK probably have 5 times that.

A lot of valued points mate,truth is take The Witcher for instance,that won't be appearing on a Nintendo Wii U now will it and thats were the problems lie with Nintendo.

They are probably more stupid and ignorant than Microsofts original Xbox One fiasco launch conference when they basically just said [censored] You to all there loyal 360 supporters.

A mistake that has basically crippled Microsoft for a few years in terms of sales figures and had Sony Executives doing cart wheels for months.

Thanks Microsoft for just giving us a few million of your loyal supporters based on your shambles of a reveal and your future plans for the Xbox One.

As for Sega they had a fantastic console in the Dreamcast but it just didn't register with your average Gamer who new nothing about consoles and games,they just saw the Brand Sony and the playstation 1 and that killed of the Dreamcast.

The new nintendo console will only fail if its over priced and still under spec,and some how i don't see this happening,they have certainly got to get back with more mature content and make sure that every decent 3rd party game appears on there system and looks better than the others,they also got to drop the kiddie type games that nobody cares about,well mature minded people don't .

And don't get me wrong,I'm partial to a bit of Mario and Toad but i also like games in the vain of Bloodborne and GTA type that never see the light of day on a Nintendo System.

Lets face it,they blew away the world when they released the original Wii,every family in the country wanted one because of the motion controlled gaming,both Sony and Microsoft jumped in on the act with the Kinnect and Playstation eye.,but sadly everybody bored with all that now,i was after a mere few short days.and like i said many times before ,motion controlled gaming or Virtual reality for that matter doesn't appeal to me one little bit,just let me lie back and relax with a nice controller ,massive tv and a decent game and I'm happy.

Talking about consoles and time limits,how long did the Atari Jaguar last and the Panasonic 3do,was it about a year ?

As for any future Cod game,you can stick them where the sun don't shine as I'm totally done with that franchise until they come up with something that equals or betters MW 1.

Ive traded the last 3 during the past 3 years in less than a week after release.

Anyway Witcher thoughts tomorrow,and it will be just my initial thoughts on a game which you could literally spend 100/200 hours on.

Edited by time2die (Mon 18-May-15 00:13:54)

In reply to a post by time2die:

As for any future Cod game,you can stick them where the sun don't shine as I'm totally done with that franchise until they come up with something that equals or betters MW 1.

They seem to be going backwards. It's the same with the battlefield games.
I'm only playing BF Hardline because my mate has it. It's a terrible excuse for a game in so many ways. Maps are too small and GTA V puts the graphics to shame
BF3 was a much better game. BF2 was my favourite, Bad company was good too. Didn't like the stupid futuristic one, followed by BF4 and it just keeps getting worst

They seem to take a good game and [censored] it up

Well some of it is to do with people getting hits and advertising income, its news I guess.

In future any footage they shouldnt reveal the platform or the resolution. Only display the worst quality footage (e.g. xbox1) and then noone can moan its been downgraded etc. Of course we will still get comparison videos post release, I dont know the solution to that but if all the media companies stopped amking a fuss over it then coverage would be minimised.

When coverage is minimised then developers wont be so concerned about visuals and might concentrate on gameplay more.

reviewtechusa grew his subscriber base by 300% during the 3 months before ps4 launch, he did it by making a video every week about ps4 vs xbox1 specs and resolution.

Pixel count kills performance and isnt that important. e.g. going from 900p to 1080p will barely be noticeable, and only when looking for it. I have experimented in games by comparing high native res with low graphics detail to lower res with high graphics detail, the latter always looks more immerse and more fun. Even more interesting is that 720p with msaa2x has less jaggies than native 1080p with no msaa. But the former uses about 30% less gpu power as well as significantly less vram. In turn that vram saving could be used e.g. to reduce game loading times by caching data. (remember vram is also ram on ps4, is unified) Which in my opinion leads to a better experience.

Why dont devs do this you may ask? because when people hear its 720p all hell will break loose.

Edited by Chrysalis (Mon 18-May-15 01:09:29)

well these show a significant visual difference.

http://imgur.com/a/K3uFC/noscript
http://i.imgur.com/PslC1pG.gif

Another game i thought i would give a chance then traded it a few days later because i thought it was terrible and exciting and fun it isn't .

Seems this generation if i buy 3 games then 2 get traded and the quality is just not there.

I really think Microsoft and Sony had nothing to offer when they released there consoles and thats a massive mistake,and 18 months down the road all we seem to get are reboots of games from previous systems.

The game everybody was taking about on Xbox One Quantum Break still has no release date and has now slipped into 2016,which begs the question why did i buy a massive paper weight that just sits there gathering dust.

Now whats there to moan about..

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/gog-witcher-3-wild-h...

Great deal here for PC gamers

Even better deal for you Swanny if you check your PS4 library

Come on ? Spill the beans

Don't tell me its buy one get one free.and you have sent the free one to swanny.

Edited by time2die (Wed 20-May-15 11:48:11)

Haha kind of, he has my account tied to his console so he get's to play it too!!

Weird

Im sure he would much prefer the new Farming Simulator The Witcher is way to complex for Swanny as it is for myself.

Marvelous I'll have a look later

What are peoples game file sizes that have played for a good few hours? Seems they get large quite quickly

Do you mean saves or what ?

Yea sorry save file size

Mine are around 35mb.

Ah cheers. Gow many hours gameplay? Seems quite high for a save. I know Skyrim started glitching when it got above 20mb

Edited by bobble_bob (Thu 21-May-15 09:05:34)

About 8,I'm not sure if i like this game to be honest,lots of the time it kind of bores me and then on the odd occasions i get into it.

There is way to much in the way of missions if you ask me and that kind of puts me of,obviously its value for money but sometimes to much is not always a good thing.

Example.

Your doing a story mission and then you enter a village/town,you then look at the notice board and there are another 5/6 side quests,and then a villager or two will ask you to do them a favour also,before you know it you now have 10 possible things to do not including what you were trying to do 5 minutes previously .

Trying playing an Elders Scroll game

Didn't like them,same as Dragon Age so its not surprising I'm not keen on this either.

Its only the videos that sold this game to me,think I'm going back to bloodborne as its way more exciting and looks and plays better.

I had a quick go last night but was really tired and falling asleep so I just clicked anything when talking to the gir, god knows what I said to her

Swanny i doubt you give it 60 minutes mate ,having given it 8 hours thats enough for me and it seems another game thats good as traded.

I am not so in love with it now, this is more like skyrim and oblivion than DA:I, is a lot of grinding for coin etc.

Still a good game, but I do prefer DA:I.

Also I been toying with the graphics settings, ultra is very under whelming, its visuals are only on par with skyrim which is nearly 5 years old. But after enabling hidden settings, it looks a lot more like the E3 footage although I can only just about manage 30fps with E3 like visuals. I turned it down again after and settled for sort of in the middle but was interesting how much visual quality was hidden from the in game menu settings.

Western rpg's and jrpg's have done a swip swap with each other. In the past 10 years ago jrpg's were grind fests and slow paced battles, now western rpg's is more grinding, and modern jrpg's are much faster paced real time battles.

This game is a lot of wondering around without battles or quests and before I turned the visuals up the ground was like an empty wasteland with lack of grass, vegetation etc.

Also the world isnt all live and breathing like skyrim and oblivion, in those 2 games, it remembers things that happened on other side of the map, on this game you only have to walk about 30 steps and turn back round then everything is reset.

Hmmmm....hidden settings.

Yet the developer seems to think it didn't run very well.

Played it for a few hours last night. Not as good as AC but ok

I prefer Skyrim

there is various settings adjustable in a config file.

The dev's have now said they adding even more in a future patch.

80% of the settings barely affect performance.

The other 20% do but only if you set them to very high values.

I was averaging 25fps at 1050p using the maximum values provided on the nvidia guide, I then after turned down the shadow resolution a bit to make it do 30fps reasonably comfortably. It looks way better than the in game ultra settings.

Edited by Chrysalis (Fri 22-May-15 13:06:02)

And i should have given Dragon Age more of a chance because i think its a far superior game if you ask me,intact i have just got that game back and The Witcher is no more .

Yes I'm not a lover of massive rpg games but i agree DA.I looks and plays better.

is already some good mods for this, increase exp gain, fairer selling prices, higher drop rates etc. so game is much less grindy, and some visual mods as well.