Why do you think that BT retail keeps advertising that ex subscribers of theirs keep returning and likewise with the power companies too?

A customer is a customer regardless of whether they are a first-timer or have been tempted back the company in question.

The ADSL market is slowly reaching saturation point and the amount of people who haven't had a taste of ADSL is becoming less and less and if Plus.net don't start trying to get past subscribers to come back then they will slowly find out that there isn't going to be a queue of new subscribers at the door any more.

For example, can you tell me that you've never received a letter from a company such as Sky asking if you would consider returning to them after you cancelled their subscription?

>Some people could actually say the same about your posts George!

Yes I dare say they can.

>BTW, was the word "plonkers" really necessary given the fact that you don't know the people such as Wadev personally so you can't base your judgment on your own opinions?

Did I mention any names? So if the cap fits.....!

"I genuinely asked the PUG a question and you have once again alienated my view point."

But you got a genuine answer to your question here http://www.plusnetters.co.uk/forums//viewtopic.php?t=786 which was very polite but at the same time straight to the point.So why do think someone posting the same question to the PUG on your behalf is going to get any different an answer.

You generalised that people who caused the so called trouble on the Plus.net forums were indeed "Plonkers" even though they weren't in anyone elses eyes but yours. This is hardly an answer and more of the fact that you don't have anything to substantiate the use of the term.

Once again you are basing your judgments not on the facts.

So basically by the same token, you are saying that "if the cap fits" some people on here would say that you could be one too for your behaviour on here.

I haven't twisted your words, only re-iterated what you have said here, I suppose that is fair enough then.

Edited by caesar_salad (Sun 27-Aug-06 15:50:50)

HI

you are correct, however that was posted @ Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 2:35 pm Post subject:

I have now read this, and am grateful to Mark for making this reply

"So why do think someone posting the same question to the PUG on your behalf is going to get any different an answer. "

i asked that question before seeing Marks answer, so therefore George does not have to worry about asking on PUG now, i have my answers.

>Why do you think that BT retail keeps advertising that ex subscribers of theirs keep returning and likewise with the power companies too?

The reason people return to BT is because the service they changed to was not as good as they thought it would be. BT did not change the company to get these people back and the same applies to power companies.

>A customer is a customer regardless of whether they are a first-timer or have been >tempted back the company in question.

True, no argument with that. BUT if you are not a customer of BT or power company you don't enjoy any of their services whilst your not a customer and you cannot complain to those companies about any service they provide. And that is just what non customers are trying to do on this forum.

>The ADSL market is slowly reaching saturation point and the amount of people who haven't had a taste of ADSL is becoming less and less and if Plus.net don't start trying to get past subscribers to come back then they will slowly find out that there isn't going to be a queue of new subscribers at the door any more.

That's a different subject altogether. When you run any company you offer a service which customers and prospective customers can either purchase or not. You don't run a company for non customers to tell you what's right and what's wrong. You certainly don't run a forum so that the opposition can hijack it to attack you and ruin it for your customers.

>For example, can you tell me that you've never received a letter from a company such as Sky asking if you would consider returning to them after you cancelled their subscription?

Of course but that has nothing to do with the sort of thing that's happening on this forum.

This smacks of a little I am far superior to you and always have to be right and have the last say on everything.

Different people have different opinions, build a bridge and get over it.

Last time I checked we still had freedom of speech or is PlusNet trying to stop that as well?

What proof do YOU have that others do not think they are "Plonkers". I think maybe you are also basing on your judgement and not on facts. I think my judgement may be a bit better than yours by the fact there are hardly any PlusNet customers left on this forum since it was hijacked where as it was almost all customers before hand.

>You generalised that people who caused the so called trouble on the Plus.net forums were indeed "Plonkers" even though they weren't in anyone elses eyes but yours. This is hardly an answer and more of the fact that you don't have anything to substantiate the use of the term.

Once again you are basing your judgments not on the facts.

Well unfortunately no one else has called them plonkers on this forum, so I wouold base that as a fact!!

Ah so you don't like a debate where you can't get your own way then?