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Standard User jossmer
(newbie) Sun 22-Jun-08 09:48:11
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Help Bt wire and sockets


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Hi This is my maiden post. I want to improve my internal wiring and BT sockets. So my question is:- Our external phone wire was replaced about 2 years back. The whole street was done.
WHere the new ext wire enters the house it is terminated in what I would describe as a BT Junction box.(small white retangular box. From there a short internal wire goes to a single socket box which has the BT logo in the bottom right hand corner. I then have an extention that runs to my desk. It is terminated via a standard sigle extention socket. (this is where I have my microfilter, which is then connected to my Linksys ADSL2 gateway AG241.

How can I get BT to fit a modern nte5? socket instead of the old BT one?
Ideally I would like the main wire to enter from the other side of its current possition, direct into an NTE5 box so I could then use the ADSLnation box.

Can I get bt to change the old box to new NTE5 without charge?
thanks

Joss
Standard User MHC
(legend) Sun 22-Jun-08 10:28:28
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Does the NTE have a removable bottom half or is it a one piece face plate? If it was two years back, I would have expected them to have fitted the split face plate.

If the bottom half is removable you can fit your own filtered face plate.

If it is a one piece face plate, the you will need to pay BT to change it to a two piece including the filter.



M H C


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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Sun 22-Jun-08 10:31:33
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if you only have one wire that goes junction box -> socket -> extension socket then you'll struggle to improve it much.

Stats from the router would indicate scope for improvement.

Phil

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Standard User jossmer
(newbie) Sun 22-Jun-08 11:36:53
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Thanks my reply seems to have failed so trying again.

Router stats;-
DSL Status: Up
DSL Modulation Mode: GDMT
DSL Path Mode: FAST
Downstream Rate: 2272 Kbps
Upstream Rate: 288 Kbps
Downstream Margin: 14 db
Upstream Margin: 29 db
Downstream Line Attenuation: 29
Upstream Line Attenuation: 14
Downstream Transmit Power: 0
Upstream Transmit Power: 0

Joss
Zen Internet soon to be O2 LLU
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 22-Jun-08 11:39:37
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You are on a fixed 2Meg product, so no matter what you do you are unlikely to go faster unless you switch to a faster package.

Extrapolating based on those figures, the attenuation suggests a full 8Meg is possible or more with ADSL2+, but the noise margins are an area for concern, but this may be the result of the modem backing off the power levels.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User jossmer
(newbie) Sun 22-Jun-08 11:41:54
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No it is not an nte5 master socket. just a plain old Bt master socket. ie its a one piece plate not split. To my mind its BT socket that is so out of date that I think BT should replace for a modern NTE5 master socket.

Joss
Zen Internet soon to be O2 LLU
Standard User MHC
(legend) Sun 22-Jun-08 11:49:53
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It is not out of date and provides all of the necessary functionality - you can connect a 'phone to it for voice or a filter to provide voice and ADSL connectivity. Give me a valid reason why BT should replace a fully functional piece of equipment at their cost. If you are prepared to pay - then fine but not FOC.







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Standard User jossmer
(newbie) Sun 22-Jun-08 11:50:42
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Thanks mr Saffron
I am most happy with my speed from Zen. But in the search for cost savings Zen at �34.95 a month are I am afraid expensive. My local exchange is due to be O2 LLU on the 30th of this month. So I will go for this. More speed + less cost= better use of my meager wage...

Its just the [censored] BT junction box and master socket I wish to resolve.

Thanks again

Joss
Zen Internet soon to be O2 LLU
Standard User jossmer
(newbie) Sun 22-Jun-08 11:55:04
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Fair comment. So the question is can I buy my own NTE5 master socket and ADSl face plate and install from the crappy BT master . To be clear, not replace the BT master but run a new NTE5 socket at the side?

Joss
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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Sun 22-Jun-08 12:12:03
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there's nothing wrong with the master socket, if you run a twisted pair extension from that to the router and have no other extension wiring there's nothing to be gained.

You can put an NTE 5 next to the existing master but there is no point, it's the same as a plug in microfilter.

Phil

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