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Standard User mckeown
(newbie) Sun 28-Jun-09 18:51:08
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Getting throttled without using connection


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Hello, I complaned a while ago about poor speeds but this was only the download speed, upload speed was always fine around 720kbps, I am on the 20Meg package...

Now it seems i'm being throttled, when I have only been on computer for about 1 hour just simply browsing the web, not even watching any videos, i know that i have been throttled because the upload limit has gone down too...

This isn't the first time this has happend, its been happening several times lately, do u guys have any suggestions?

I dont do much downloading at all, however I use my connection for watching online videos, recently I have been watching Wimbledon in high quality on bbc website. however now, with my speeds throttled, the stream is really choppy and breaks up, and I have to resort to low quality still with some picture break up...

This is my connection stats, other websites have showed the same thing several times

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results/id/1...

Hopefully u experts can come up with a suggestion or 2 to what is happening,

Thanks,
Standard User Bryer
(experienced) Sun 28-Jun-09 19:14:09
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Re: Getting throttled without using connection


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Sounds like someone on your box in the street is abusing their connection and its having a knock on effect on your connection. Or the IP range or local server is overloaded with high bandwidth users.

The high def stream could be pushing you close to the STM.......

Edited by Bryer (Sun 28-Jun-09 19:16:44)

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 28-Jun-09 20:54:20
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 29-Jun-09 15:32:26
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Re: Getting throttled without using connection


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Speak to Virgin - there are issues with STM on some Motorola equipment at VM's side which they are trying to resolve with Motorola.

Sadly they refuse to switch it off altogether until they have fixed the issue but they can remove you from the STM.
Standard User broadband66
(member) Mon 29-Jun-09 18:54:43
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Which statement is tosh?

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 29-Jun-09 20:01:31
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Standard User broadband66
(member) Tue 30-Jun-09 13:11:25
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"Sounds like someone on your box in the street is abusing their connection and its having a knock on effect on your connection. Or the IP range or local server is overloaded with high bandwidth users."

"The high def stream could be pushing you close to the STM....... "

2 statements - which one is tosh?

Was Eclipse Home Option 1 & VM 2Mb
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 30-Jun-09 13:31:34
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not using connection, but at the same time watching streaming HD ?

OP should realise by now that streaming films, means the content is being downloaded to temp and then trashed

try downloading the hd film to the hard drive and then watch it later, you will get an idea to it's large size as well smile
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 30-Jun-09 15:13:39
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You must be going over the upload or download limit to be throttled. Virgins system identifies you as a high end user. 4meg is still pretty decent and you should be able to watch even BBC iPlayer HD perfectly fine. Streaming counts as downloading! Watch wimbledon on the telly box!
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 30-Jun-09 15:41:18
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Standard User mckeown
(newbie) Tue 30-Jun-09 16:46:15
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try downloading the hd film to the hard drive and then watch it later, you will get an idea to it's large size as well smile


What im watching is live, its wimbledon... i cant download it

And other people seem to have missunderstood me, i'm not an idiot, i know that watching an online stream uses up bandwidth... What i ment is that when I get home from work, when I havnt used to connection since the previous evening (18 hours ago) i'm running at neer 5meg down and 180kps up, which looks like throttled speeds to me

Then i try and watch Wimbledon what i'm home on comp but unable to do so in higher quality stream, bbc site says u need a connection speed of 1meg to watch the stream so i should be fine, however because i'm on virgin i have bad upload speeds when being throttled, perhaps the stream will need a greater upload speed, as more common with ADSL

any more suggestions after reading my posts properly will be appreiated,

thanks,
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 30-Jun-09 16:53:36
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 30-Jun-09 17:15:28
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In reply to a post by krazykizza:
You must be going over the upload or download limit to be throttled.



Not strictly speaking true. Have a look through the threads on here and their have been instances where the STM has kicked in where it should not have.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 30-Jun-09 17:17:18
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Standard User broadband66
(member) Wed 01-Jul-09 13:52:45
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You're the one that replied "tosh" to a previous poster. Please explain?

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 01-Jul-09 14:00:03
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tbbmeter will help keep an eye on the amount of data viewing videos tots up http://www.thinkbroadband.com/tbbmeter.html

Alternatively it may be something on the machine using bandwidth that you are not aware of e.g. an a P2P version of iPlayer

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 01-Jul-09 14:45:20
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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 01-Jul-09 16:51:32
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Windows updates are generally fairly small assuming you keep the machine up to date, at least in comparison to watching streamed video

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
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The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 01-Jul-09 17:16:23
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Standard User broadband66
(member) Thu 02-Jul-09 16:06:49
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I use NetMeter. Needs to be on all machines using the network.

Was Eclipse Home Option 1 & VM 2Mb
Now O2 standard
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 03-Jul-09 12:31:25
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I swapped out the Virgin router for a Tomato based router, that way I can graph everything at the WAN interface.
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