Unlimited ISP neede

Right now i'm on a LLU exchange via O2 but i have been given a warning that i may be kicked of due to there fup, does anyone know of isp;s that still offer this in an ideal world without me having to move to there telephone line.

All1

Sky and BT are both now totally unlimited
BT had a 300gb FUP but have removed this now

Sky do not slow down torrents etc though

Both require you to take phone line though

In reply to a post by ukhardy07:

Sky and BT are both now totally unlimited
BT had a 300gb FUP but have removed this now

Sky do not slow down torrents etc though

Both require you to take phone line though

OK thanks ukhardy07 i'll contact them now and see what the deal is

All1

You may be in a fibre area which would give you upto 80 Mbps & 20 Mbps up

Ask sky about sky unlimited fibre
& BT about BT infinity

Good luck and let us know how you get along

Edited by ukhardy07 (Wed 23-May-12 15:34:18)

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You may be in a fibre area which would give you upto 80 Mbps & 20 Mbps up
Good luck and let us know how you get along

Not in fibre area till next year some time

BE is truly unlimited and must be available if you are in an O2 LLU area.

Not sure how you move from one ISP to another within the Telefonica group.

Does O2 not do "any" unlimited packages now?

SKY LU is also truly unlimited as well.

In reply to a post by alloneword:

Right now i'm on a LLU exchange via O2 but i have been given a warning that i may be kicked of due to there fup, does anyone know of isp;s that still offer this in an ideal world without me having to move to there telephone line.

All1

Be retail has been mentioned, although it is unlimited it would mean a new 12 mths contract, or a 3mth contract at a premium price,
However there are lots of smaller isp's that re sell the BE/o2 wholesale products, which are the same speeds as o2/be retail, but the differences are the price for some products is slightly cheaper or better value for money than the retail offings, other advantages are no min term contract (rolling monthly) uk based support, better peering transit ands a few other differences too and no need to change anything telephone related

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Be retail has been mentioned, although it is unlimited it would mean a new 12 mths contract, or a 3mth contract at a premium price,
However there are lots of smaller isp's that re sell the BE/o2 wholesale products, which are the same speeds as o2/be retail, but the differences are the price for some products is slightly cheaper or better value for money than the retail offings, other advantages are no min term contract (rolling monthly) uk based support, better peering transit ands a few other differences too and no need to change anything telephone related

Do the resellers of the BE/O2 Wholesale product give the unlimited / unshaped products that the OP obviously requires if he is being "persuaded" to leave O2?

Presumably he must be on the new products even though he has said not as the legacy products are unlimited.

In reply to a post by greenglide:

BE is truly unlimited and must be available if you are in an O2 LLU area.

Not sure how you move from one ISP to another within the Telefonica group.

Does O2 not do "any" unlimited packages now?

SKY LU is also truly unlimited as well.

Funny this in a way I was with BE for a few yeras before i moved to O2 I moved to O2 as BE was having major issues with my connection going up and down like a tarts pair of drawers, but after months of doing stuff they failed to fix it so i went to O2 with the promise if they failed to fix issue i could leave withing 3 months for sod all, so bit worried about going back to BE to be honest again.

I don't want to change phone side of things as i'm on something called "BT Basic" which is only a fiver a month for line rental, but Sky do want me to move my phone BT say I can stay but BB alone will be £26.80 + £5 for basic making it £31.60 a month, Phew....

O2 stopped doing unlimited deals a while ago but given i was on old tariff, I have just kept rolling on and on and hence still on old tariff.

All1

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In reply to a post by tommy45:

Be retail has been mentioned, although it is unlimited it would mean a new 12 mths contract, or a 3mth contract at a premium price,
However there are lots of smaller isp's that re sell the BE/o2 wholesale products, which are the same speeds as o2/be retail, but the differences are the price for some products is slightly cheaper or better value for money than the retail offings, other advantages are no min term contract (rolling monthly) uk based support, better peering transit ands a few other differences too and no need to change anything telephone related

Do the resellers of the BE/O2 Wholesale product give the unlimited / unshaped products that the OP obviously requires if he is being "persuaded" to leave O2?

Presumably he must be on the new products even though he has said not as the legacy products are unlimited.

Yes most of the re sellers offering the BE/O2 wholesale product's offer a unshaped/throttled truly unlimited service, as far as i'm aware, those that don't offer this will i'm sure state this on their web site, there are a few who apply a useage cap, certainly worthwhile considering, also they all give customers a static ip too

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tommy45, do you know who any of these companies are that re-sell the o2 product?

All1

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tommy45, do you know who any of these companies are that re-sell the o2 product?

All1

xilo/Uno broadband (enter phone number to see products &prices)

Vivaciti broadband unlimited(be/o2 wholesale)

ASDL 24 Premium llu >Be/o2 wholsale

aquiss broadband-unlimited

All the above are unlimited prices vary on some of the products such as the Pro Annex M ( Upto 2.5mbit upload )

AAISP Has usage caps, but does have really good support

goscomb.net again capped usage apart from the pro annex m package

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....... O2 stopped doing unlimited deals a while ago but given i was on old tariff, I have just kept rolling on and on and hence still on old tariff.....

Can I ask how much traffic you're shifting?

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given i was on old tariff, I have just kept rolling on and on and hence still on old tariff.

O2 legacy tariffs are supposed to be unlimited without a FUP limit or throttling, unless you are really overdoing it, in which case you will probably run into the same trouble elsewhere.

If you are on one of the legacy (Unlimited) o2 packages that are not available to new customers, then they shouldn't be e-mailing you about usage at all,

unless you are shifting terabytes every month and that use was causing local congestion at your exchange,

Or they have sent the e-mail out in error, have you spoken to them regarding this e-mail ?

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In reply to a post by alloneword:

....... O2 stopped doing unlimited deals a while ago but given i was on old tariff, I have just kept rolling on and on and hence still on old tariff.....

Can I ask how much traffic you're shifting?

Well according to O2 I am impacting on the local exchange, but i have seen no figures to back this up, the stats they have given me are as follows:

Jan = 147.47GB (which to be honest it what i'd expect on average)
Feb = 59.03GB
Mar = Zero (yea i know Zero, which i know is BS as i stream iplayer stuff on the TV)
April = 258GB Now April could have been higher but to be honest i doubt that figure as well as PC was in bit for a good few days while i rebuilt it, and when it goes back together downloading is the last thing i worry about.

Does anyone know how i can get hold of my old contract with them, i joined them on 2nd Oct 2009

Interesting. That's not the most excessive usage ever... clearly O2 have no plans to invest in their network and are running it into the ground now. Perhaps they are kicking off a few heavy users on the exchange so they don't need to upgrade ... or perhaps so they can downgrade as user numbers are no longer high enough and they can't justify it?!

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In reply to a post by ukhardy07:

Sky and BT are both now totally unlimited
BT had a 300gb FUP but have removed this now

Sky do not slow down torrents etc though

Both require you to take phone line though

OK thanks ukhardy07 i'll contact them now and see what the deal is

All1

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and if you are going to sign any contract I would definitely consider doing it through topcashback as some are giving serious cashback.
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That's hardly excessive at all if you ask me, barely moderately high.

Remember BT's old FUP was 300GB per month, and you had to exceed it several times repeatedly before getting your speed capped, VM's is around 350GB, on BT Business (Fibre) 100GB is the lowest cap you can have.

But there has been ongoing problems with the O2/Be network for months now and perhaps there is a hardening of the line and even though O2 was "unlimited" on the legacy packages there was a FUP of unknown size and unenforced.

Although if that is the case I can see them losing a few moew thousand customers.

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In reply to a post by Deadbeat:

In reply to a post by alloneword:

....... O2 stopped doing unlimited deals a while ago but given i was on old tariff, I have just kept rolling on and on and hence still on old tariff.....

Can I ask how much traffic you're shifting?

Well according to O2 I am impacting on the local exchange, but i have seen no figures to back this up, the stats they have given me are as follows:

Jan = 147.47GB (which to be honest it what i'd expect on average)
Feb = 59.03GB
Mar = Zero (yea i know Zero, which i know is BS as i stream iplayer stuff on the TV)
April = 258GB Now April could have been higher but to be honest i doubt that figure as well as PC was in bit for a good few days while i rebuilt it, and when it goes back together downloading is the last thing i worry about.

Does anyone know how i can get hold of my old contract with them, i joined them on 2nd Oct 2009

I would like to know how that amount of usage would/could impact an exchange, what are they using for a network ? as far the actual amount of data used that's nothing within the grand scheme of things, there are lots of customers shifting a hell of a lot more than that every month and they haven't heard a peep,

I would be inclined to make a formal complaint in writing to them regarding this, if the response is a negative one then complain to their ADR or ofcom ( if you really wanted to stay) I wouldn't be surprised if they are stupid enough to offer you some cheap offer or so many months ,when you ask for your MAC but of course accepting such would mean agreeing to a new 12th contract

Edited by tommy45 (Thu 24-May-12 11:49:32)

In reply to a post by alloneword:

In reply to a post by Deadbeat:

In reply to a post by alloneword:

....... O2 stopped doing unlimited deals a while ago but given i was on old tariff, I have just kept rolling on and on and hence still on old tariff.....

Can I ask how much traffic you're shifting?

Well according to O2 I am impacting on the local exchange, but i have seen no figures to back this up, the stats they have given me are as follows:

Jan = 147.47GB (which to be honest it what i'd expect on average)
Feb = 59.03GB
Mar = Zero (yea i know Zero, which i know is BS as i stream iplayer stuff on the TV)
April = 258GB Now April could have been higher but to be honest i doubt that figure as well as PC was in bit for a good few days while i rebuilt it, and when it goes back together downloading is the last thing i worry about.

Does anyone know how i can get hold of my old contract with them, i joined them on 2nd Oct 2009

Usage is not paticulary high at all. We shift more than that every single month guaranteed.

Just a heads up the BE network and the BE resellers all use the same network as o2. I would personally move away seeing as you had problems with BE already and also o2.

The BT retention deals are very good and we were offered bt broadband for £14.99 after 1 year. So this is worth considering.

& The total sky broadband price is quite low. Around the £20 - £22 with line rental. Bearing in mind you can get 6 months half price broadband

You can also get £50 cashback atm for broadband

http://www.quidco.com/sky-digital-tv-and-broadband/?ac

To add resellers are generally more expensive I have noticed.

It's tough to find someone that's cheap enough that offers broadband only. Generally the cheap providers force you to take line rental as well (so they can get profits from calls too).

Broadband only ISPs are generally more expensive to account for the fact that they will get no calls revenue etc.

Edited by ukhardy07 (Thu 24-May-12 13:34:19)

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Just a heads up the BE network and the BE resellers all use the same network as o2. I would personally move away seeing as you had problems with BE already and also o2

That would no be an issue if via a reseller, as the reseller is your isp and not &be/o2 retail

Although the Whloesale products use some of the same infrastructure such as the kit in the exchange The VLANS are different for the backaul into the resellers/wholesalers data centers

And most if not all have Peering independent to that of be/o2 retail ,so will in most cases will be a lot different to them, and usage , FUP ect is up to the isp
As for them being more expensive some packages are cheaper than be retails offerings are ,(comparing current prices )

In reply to a post by ukhardy07:

The BT retention deals are very good and we were offered bt broadband for £14.99 after 1 year. So this is worth considering.

& The total sky broadband price is quite low. Around the £20 - £22 with line rental. Bearing in mind you can get 6 months half price broadband

But there are some hidden disadvantages , IP Profiling system and DLM both nearely always steal some sync from the customer,who's advantage does that work to?
Then you have all the other silly nonsense of port blocking /throttling P2P uber aggressively down to 12kbps or similar and the clean feed censoring /blocking system they deploy, no static ip addresses, outsourced /overseas call centers who employ script readers only and are a pathetic excuse for customer support, they must be on a par with talktalk by now , the only plus side to bt is they don't bundle, (non llu) as for the cheap full llu isp (Line rental,calls + DSL ) they may be cheap that is for a reason, they are also a nightmare to migrate away from

The OP's exchange was one of those on Sky's congested exchange list and only 4 -5 weeks ago was problematic according to a couple of former BEing's who migrated