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Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Mon 15-Sep-14 19:05:47
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Does the HG612 Openreach Modem can work standalone with setting on VDSL without any router? The reason is I don't use wifi. Only Lan port so surely openreach modem unlocked should work stand alone straight to pc lan port to surf the internet.
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(deleted) Mon 15-Sep-14 19:07:09
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Yes, that works.
Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Mon 15-Sep-14 19:08:05
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How to work?

Can you tell me what the setting please?


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(deleted) Mon 15-Sep-14 19:11:58
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See http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/t/4109999-re-...
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 15-Sep-14 19:18:25
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I don't think he wants it as a router. Just as it is - a modem with Ethernet output.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.6/14.1Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Angels can fly because they can take themselves lightly." - G K Chesterton.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 15-Sep-14 19:31:40
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So in that case, he already has what he wants smile
Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Mon 15-Sep-14 20:04:54
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It won't work. I check connection and say Your machine administrator has disabled Teredo ??? can't get my head round it.

Here is screenshot and please tell me what I have done wrong?

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Standard User StephenTodd
(experienced) Mon 15-Sep-14 21:13:58
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If you just want a single computer connected there are two ways.

One is using the setup as in the post above; with the HG612 making the PPPoE connection. I am afraid I'm not quite sure why that setup isn't working for you.

Alternatively, use the HG612 in its original configuration (locked or unlocked) as a pure modem, and make the PPPoE connection from the computer connected to the HG612.
On Windows that means that you must go into Network Settings and create a new network. Configure it for PPPoE, with a username of '[email protected]' (actually there are lots of others that will work), and any password you like.

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Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Mon 15-Sep-14 21:48:59
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After trying everything I give up. Have to use router connected to HG612 modem. Cannot get it working. Maybe someone will help me step by step and computer set up in windows 7 of how to get connecting to modem only via ethernet to pc and surf the net. I hate to use two items (router and modem).

Edited by adslmax (Mon 15-Sep-14 21:50:24)

Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Mon 15-Sep-14 21:50:00
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I think you need your pc to pppoe auth this will work by connecting the lan1 cable from hg612 to pc and no need to reconfigure anything on the hg612.
or have the hg612 do the pppoe and it then acts as router you will need to reconfigure it and can probably use either lan port to pc.

what you cant do is connect hg612 direct to pc and expect it to just work, you need something to handle the ppp and routing.

Edited by Chrysalis (Mon 15-Sep-14 21:51:05)

Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Mon 15-Sep-14 21:51:20
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pc to pppoe auth (how to do this in windows 7?)
Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Mon 15-Sep-14 21:54:26
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Do u mean this? http://s5.postimg.org/hporjojs7/Internet.jpg
Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Mon 15-Sep-14 22:33:58
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Sorry it still won't work. So, back to my own router along with openreach modem for now.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 15-Sep-14 22:40:43
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Do u mean this? http://s5.postimg.org/hporjojs7/Internet.jpg
Yes.

It's just how we used to connect to dialup in Windows, except PPPoE not PPPoA. Lots of people on these forums have done it when their router hasn't turned up in time from their ISP.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.6/14.1Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Angels can fly because they can take themselves lightly." - G K Chesterton.
Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Mon 15-Sep-14 22:42:41
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
In reply to a post by adslmax:
Do u mean this? http://s5.postimg.org/hporjojs7/Internet.jpg
Yes.

It's just how we used to connect to dialup in Windows, except PPPoE not PPPoA. Lots of people on these forums have done it when their router hasn't turned up in time from their ISP.


What are the correct setting in openreach modem and windows please! I cannot get my head round it.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 15-Sep-14 22:45:47
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Same username and password as you have stored in your router.

The tunnel warning is likely to be an IPv6 issue which you can disable if need be.

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Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Mon 15-Sep-14 22:46:48
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Same username and password as you have stored in your router.

The tunnel warning is likely to be an IPv6 issue which you can disable if need be.


how to disabled IPv6 on the openreach modem?
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 15-Sep-14 22:49:43
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Did you unlock your modem, and if so have you altered any settings in it? If you have altered any settings then best to do a factory reset on it. That leaves it unlocked, which is fine, but puts it into normal bridge mode which is what you want.

For Windows you want Control Panel >> Set up a new connection or network, then follow the instructions. I don't intend to screw my system up to go all the way through it wink.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.6/14.1Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Angels can fly because they can take themselves lightly." - G K Chesterton.
Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Mon 15-Sep-14 23:00:01
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Yes I did unlock my modem ages ago last February. So, I will try reset to factory default and use it normal bridge mode. And try windows networking. I will back up my windows first (don't want to ruining it)
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 15-Sep-14 23:17:02
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That's just the normal pin in the hole at the back while the modem is already on - remember that? You don't want to reload the locked firmware.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.6/14.1Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Angels can fly because they can take themselves lightly." - G K Chesterton.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 16-Sep-14 00:27:52
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You disable it on the PC
http://www.informationweek.com/how-to-disable-ipv6-o...

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Standard User reywob
(regular) Tue 16-Sep-14 12:03:50
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What Stephen has told you is about as simple as it gets. I can only tell you for OSX sorry, but it's pretty similar.

Here is my ISP's guide to setting it up on Windows 7: http://support.zen.co.uk/kb/Knowledgebase/Fibre-Broa...
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Tue 16-Sep-14 12:37:26
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On Windows that means that you must go into Network Settings and create a new network. Configure it for PPPoE, with a username of '[email protected]' (actually there are lots of others that will work), and any password you like.
Uh uh!

Just spotted what's wrong there. He's on Plusnet, not Infinity, so needs his normal Plusnet login username and password.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.6/14.1Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Angels can fly because they can take themselves lightly." - G K Chesterton.
Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Tue 16-Sep-14 12:39:27
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Thanks all. I manage to get openreach modem connected to windows 7 fibre PPPoE from openreach lan port 1 but I cannot access openreach modem http:192.168.1.1 to check connection stats. Do i need another cable from openreach lan port 2 to pc to get openreach connection stats?

Edited by adslmax (Tue 16-Sep-14 12:41:16)

Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Tue 16-Sep-14 12:39:46
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I've just realised Stephen gave you the Infinity details. You need to use your Plusnet normal login(username@plusdsl.net) and password.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.6/14.1Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Angels can fly because they can take themselves lightly." - G K Chesterton.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 16-Sep-14 12:42:00
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Yes, you need to plug an ethernet cable into LAN2 to access the stats

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Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Tue 16-Sep-14 12:43:20
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Ah ok. I have to buy another ethernet cable.Lucky my pc had dual lan ports (one spare)
Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Tue 16-Sep-14 12:44:05
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
I've just realised Stephen gave you the Infinity details. You need to use your Plusnet normal login(username@plusdsl.net) and password.


Yes I always use plusnet login.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Tue 16-Sep-14 12:45:34
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ou've got internet access now then? smile

You won't be able to get stats as before because you haven't got a port on your computer to connect to LAN2. You haven't got a LAN network.

What might work would be to set up a second computer with a fixed IP address of 192.168.1.50 and plug that into LAN2. You wouldn't get internet access on it, but you may be able to get the stats.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.6/14.1Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Angels can fly because they can take themselves lightly." - G K Chesterton.
Standard User deleted
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50p from comms-express wink
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Tue 16-Sep-14 12:49:36
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My post about getting stats overlapped. I didn't suggest that as I didn't expect a computer with two Ethernet ports.

Is that going to work, even with his two Ethernet ports on his computer?

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.6/14.1Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Angels can fly because they can take themselves lightly." - G K Chesterton.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Tue 16-Sep-14 12:51:48
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Ah ok. I have to buy another ethernet cable.Lucky my pc had dual lan ports (one spare)
You must already have two Ethernet cables, unless you were running wirelessly connected to the router!

Edit - or were you using a Home Hub with built-in modem?

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.6/14.1Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Angels can fly because they can take themselves lightly." - G K Chesterton.

Edited by RobertoS (Tue 16-Sep-14 12:53:08)

Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Tue 16-Sep-14 13:00:16
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I found a spare ethernet cable in the box. 15 metre long. Yes, it working but I have to disabled ethernet lan port 1 while ethernet lan port 2 can access to openreach modem stats. Then enabled ethernet lan port 2 as it say on network and sharing center "multipie networks" it now working both, FTTC standalone and Openreach Modem Stats.

Thanks guys.

http://s5.postimg.org/bnlq6xkpz/image.jpg

Question is: the pc shutdown mean plusnet connection log will be lost - will that concern to DLM hit or Plusnet fault team might see lots of disconnected every days like plusnet connection logs etc when the pc showdown overnight.

@ RobertoS I don't have BT Home Hub 5 anymore, It sold on ebay ages ago. Don't like BT Badge on it.

Edited by adslmax (Tue 16-Sep-14 13:03:58)

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DLM will be fine as the modem will remain in synch.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Tue 16-Sep-14 13:03:31
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The only connection that affects the DLM is the modem.

If you did a Factory Reset on that, that would be a single reconnection. Not a problem.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.6/14.1Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Angels can fly because they can take themselves lightly." - G K Chesterton.
Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Tue 16-Sep-14 13:06:47
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Thanks but I think Plusnet team should check modem sync not connection logs as a fault. They sometimes telling plusnet customers on the member forum "Ah, you have lots of disconnections on the connection logs , there is a fault on your line" That's RUBBISH. Because the modem stay sync for ages!
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Tue 16-Sep-14 13:12:25
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I think they are able to tell the difference between a modem disconnection and a PPP session disconnection.

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Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.6/14.1Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Angels can fly because they can take themselves lightly." - G K Chesterton.
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I found a spare ethernet cable in the box. 15 metre long. Yes, it working but I have to disabled ethernet lan port 1 while ethernet lan port 2 can access to openreach modem stats.

That suggests that both ports on the computer are getting configured with the same IP network address, so that the routing table gets confused.

The command "ipconfig /all" should tell us if this has happened.

Changing one address on the PC should allow you to connect to both networks at the same time, but I don't know whether the modem can cope with that.
Standard User StephenTodd
(experienced) Wed 17-Sep-14 09:35:30
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Apologies for my slipup there; thanks for correcting it.

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