Openreach or BDUK

Is there anyway to determine if your cabinet will be upgraded to fibre by open reach or part of the BDUK rollout? Any known contact details?

Exchange: East Kilbride
Cab:147 ( currently "under review")

Thanks

Here's what I found for that cabinet

Phase BDUK Scot Government 12b

You can check for yourself here

In reply to a post by brianw:

Is there anyway to determine if your cabinet will be upgraded to fibre by open reach or part of the BDUK rollout? Any known contact details?

Exchange: East Kilbride
Cab:147 ( currently "under review")

Thanks

What's the Postcode?

Paul

post code is G75 9GX

That is postcode of the cabinet, or is that your postcode too? Some of the postcode appear connected to cab 116 which is live.

The looks show a DSLAM is present, so should be just down to the usual commissioning/fibre/power delays.

Edited by MrSaffron (Thu 01-Oct-15 16:45:19)

CHBMB, I must be dumb. What did you search for to get that detail on that website ?

Cheers

In reply to a post by brianw:

post code is G75 9GX

Will look in a few mins.

Paul

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

That is postcode of the cabinet, or is that your postcode too? Some of the postcode appear connected to cab 116 which is live.

The looks show a DSLAM is present, so should be just down to the usual commissioning/fibre/power delays.

That postcode is spread over 3 cabinets shown below:

Exchange Name: East Kilbride
Exchange Code: WSEKI

Cabinet: 106, 116, 147
Fibre Phase: NOT CHECKED
Result Count: 58

[G75 9GX]
� Has 4 result(s) connected to Cabinet 116 with FTTC with approximate speeds around the following:
� Range A: 17.6 -> 30.0 (downstream) 2.5 -> 6.4 (upstream)
� Range B: 8.7 -> 23.5 (downstream) 1.2 -> 5.7 (upstream)

� Has 1 result(s) connected to Cabinet 106 with FTTC with approximate speeds around the following:
� Range A: 62.5 -> 80.0 (downstream) 20.0 -> 20.0 (upstream)
� Range B: 51.5 -> 75.6 (downstream) 15.6 -> 20.0 (upstream)

� Has 53 result(s) connected to Cabinet 147 with ADSLx with approximate speeds around the following:
� ADSLx (Worst): Up to 1.0 (downstream rate) -- (upsrteam rate) 1.0 to 3.0 (downstream range)
� ADSLx (Best): Up to 2.0 (downstream rate) -- (upsrteam rate) 1.5 to 3.5 (downstream range)

Please note that these speeds are using BT's DSL Checker and uses the lowest and highest values for that postcode and cabinet.
� Had at least 1 issue retrieving information from the BT DSL Checker.

Granted they are mostly on cabinet 147.

Paul

MrSaffron, thats my postcode, I also think thats the cabinet postcode too, but no number on it to verify.

Pretty sure that's the cabinet location

Fibre cabinets never have their number on them, can usually visually link to the copper cab by the new tarmac, but its possible this is an all in one has its TPON conversion area.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Pretty sure that's the cabinet location

Fibre cabinets never have their number on them, can usually visually link to the copper cab by the new tarmac, but its possible this is an all in one has its TPON conversion area.

It's not a fibre cabinet, looks quite old: Google maps steetview

That's a grey TPON cabinet with a new green copper cabinet next door, is the actual situation on the street identical now, or is there another green cabinet with some air vents in it now (have to ask as picture is three years old)?

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

That's a grey TPON cabinet with a new green copper cabinet next door, is the actual situation on the street identical now, or is there another green cabinet with some air vents in it now (have to ask as picture is three years old)?

That's the situation now, no new fibre cabinet within 100 meters that I can find.

Here is all 3 cabinet locations for your postcode:

[106]
https://goo.gl/maps/U4REvmLAtJs
STREET SIDE DSLAM CAB NNATQU, MAVOR AVE, EAST KILBRIDE, GLASGOW, G74 4PU on Exchange EAST KILBRIDE is served by Cabinet 106

[116]
https://goo.gl/maps/iH947RR4AFP2
STREET SIDE DSLAM CAB NNATQW, CEDAR DRIVE, EAST KILBRIDE, GLASGOW, G75 9HS on Exchange EAST KILBRIDE is served by Cabinet 116

[147]
https://goo.gl/maps/xdoYWbFky172
STREET SIDE DSLAM CAB NNBNJG, POLDEN AVENUE, EAST KILBRIDE, GLASGOW, G75 9GX on Exchange EAST KILBRIDE is served by Cabinet 147

So that one Andrew linked to is cabinet 147 and according to the BT DSL Checker there is a DSLAM located there.

Paul

I put East Kilbride and searched on locality.

Then clicked on the link saying East Kilbride, Glasgow, Lanarkshire

Then clicked on the link saying All 194 Fibre Cabinets..

In reply to a post by PaulKirby:

Here is all 3 cabinet locations for your postcode:

[106]
https://goo.gl/maps/U4REvmLAtJs
STREET SIDE DSLAM CAB NNATQU, MAVOR AVE, EAST KILBRIDE, GLASGOW, G74 4PU on Exchange EAST KILBRIDE is served by Cabinet 106

[116]
https://goo.gl/maps/iH947RR4AFP2
STREET SIDE DSLAM CAB NNATQW, CEDAR DRIVE, EAST KILBRIDE, GLASGOW, G75 9HS on Exchange EAST KILBRIDE is served by Cabinet 116

[147]
https://goo.gl/maps/xdoYWbFky172
STREET SIDE DSLAM CAB NNBNJG, POLDEN AVENUE, EAST KILBRIDE, GLASGOW, G75 9GX on Exchange EAST KILBRIDE is served by Cabinet 147

So that one Andrew linked to is cabinet 147 and according to the BT DSL Checker there is a DSLAM located there.

Paul

Thanks for the info, do you have insider info to locate all of these ?


Not being up on telecoms hardware. DSLAM, is for ADSL only and has no relation to fiber ?

The fiber cabinet will connect to the DSLAM in the current copper cabinet ?

In reply to a post by CHBMB:

I put East Kilbride and searched on locality.

Then clicked on the link saying East Kilbride, Glasgow, Lanarkshire

Then clicked on the link saying All 194 Fibre Cabinets..

Thanks CHBMB

The DSLAM is what is housed in the FTTC cabinet. It takes the fibre-optic link from an exchange, converts it to VDSL2 and merges it onto the phone line, returning the result to the phone cabinet and onward to your place. And vice versa for the other direction.

Edited by RobertoS (Thu 01-Oct-15 19:05:14)

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

The DSLAM is what is housed in the FTTC cabinet. It takes the fibre-optic link from an exchange, converts it to VDSL2 and merges it onto the phone line, returning the result to the phone cabinet and onward to your place. And vice versa for the other direction.

Thanks RobertoS. Going on what PaulK put a few posts up that 147 has a DSLAM, does that imply fiber based on your description or am I just being hopeful ?


Appreciate the input from everyone.

In reply to a post by brianw:

Thanks for the info, do you have insider info to locate all of these ?

Nope

If I am looking for a fibre cabinet I do fast checking that gets a list of postcodes for a certain cabinet and check the list of addresses for the word DSLAM (LOL, yes its rather crude, but its works most of the time) and then flag that in my console.

If that fails to return anything I then check 1 address that is listed for a certain cabinet and make a note of the speeds and if 80->80 there your near a fibre cabinet

And once I have a postcode that has a either a DSLAM listed or addresses with 80 -> 80 I put those postcodes into Google Maps and go looking, most of the time its near or on a main road.

Paul

Once PCP 147 has a fibre partner (FTTC cabinet) then it is almost certain FTTC will be available at some stage. Normally within a few months, occasionally it can be years if there are problems with power or blocked ducts to get the fibre to the DSLAM, now and then the FTTC cabinet is resited for whatever reason, now and then just gets removed.

In reply to a post by brianw:

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

The DSLAM is what is housed in the FTTC cabinet. It takes the fibre-optic link from an exchange, converts it to VDSL2 and merges it onto the phone line, returning the result to the phone cabinet and onward to your place. And vice versa for the other direction.

Thanks RobertoS. Going on what PaulK put a few posts up that 147 has a DSLAM, does that imply fiber based on your description or am I just being hopeful ?


Appreciate the input from everyone.

Well I am no expert, I am only going by what is presented to me on my screen within my apps.

BT DSL Checker for G75 9GX

BT Checker says its there, its the first address on the list

Paul

The Cab at the top of the list, and several others, say 147. No.1 says cab 116 with FTTC. I haven't seen any others.

In reply to a post by PaulKirby:

In reply to a post by brianw:

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

The DSLAM is what is housed in the FTTC cabinet. It takes the fibre-optic link from an exchange, converts it to VDSL2 and merges it onto the phone line, returning the result to the phone cabinet and onward to your place. And vice versa for the other direction.

Thanks RobertoS. Going on what PaulK put a few posts up that 147 has a DSLAM, does that imply fiber based on your description or am I just being hopeful ?


Appreciate the input from everyone.

Well I am no expert, I am only going by what is presented to me on my screen within my apps.

BT DSL Checker for G75 9GX

BT Checker says its there, its the first address on the list

Paul

I'll take a wander round tomorrow been a week since I passed it. See if there is a new cabinet

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

The Cab at the top of the list, and several others, say 147. No.1 says cab 116 with FTTC. I haven't seen any others.

I was referring to the BT DSL Checker for G75 9GX link I posted.

Try entering G75 9GX into the BT DSL Checker and you will see in the list of addresses the DSLAM Cabinet listed as the first address.

Paul

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Did I disagree? Do I indicate I looked elsewhere?

I thought I made a couple of comments about the list displayed using your link. [puzzled]

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

?
Did I disagree? Do I indicate I looked elsewhere?

I thought I made a couple of comments about the list displayed using your link. [puzzled]

lol, now I am confused, I was referring to my last link.

No worries.

Paul

Had a look today. No new cabinet, which makes it interesting that the postcode checker lists a cabinet with a DSLAM ... or does this just mean the one at the exchange ?

In reply to a post by brianw:

Had a look today. No new cabinet, which makes it interesting that the postcode checker lists a cabinet with a DSLAM ... or does this just mean the one at the exchange ?

No, if it was at the exchange then it would have a different postcode, no?
Maybe its a place holder for it, BT seem to do that for FTTC.

*** update ***
Maybe its in the chamber, doesn't your cabinet have a dual chamber on the ground, so maybe its sitting in there waiting for a fibre cabinet?

Paul

Edited by PaulKirby (Fri 02-Oct-15 16:33:47)

It won't be in the chamber, most likely the checker is just ahead of itself and this is where it is intended to go.

DSLAM arrives pre-fitted into its green cabinet and is lifted off the lorry onto the plinth

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

It won't be in the chamber, most likely the checker is just ahead of itself and this is where it is intended to go.

DSLAM arrives pre-fitted into its green cabinet and is lifted off the lorry onto the plinth

Yeah, I thought that, just wasn't too sure.

But you never know with BT, it all depends on the engineer.

I recall a while back that we had a broken copper wire in the trunk between chamber and cabinet and there was no other spare pairs (so they said) and they sadly put up on separate wires on two different pairs, well you can guess what happened, ended up having them come back and do it right and oh look they found several pairs, so BT can do silly stuff some times.

Paul

Physically difficult to get the DSLAM into a pavement chamber http://www.coolwebhome.co.uk/fibre-cornwall/ DSLAM is the rack mount on the left hand side of picture 4 and have never heard of one being removed from a cabinet in the wild.

Engineers will add line cards as and when demand grows and that cab with 8 blocks of 24 was filling up nicely even back in 2012 but this was in conrwall.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

Physically difficult to get the DSLAM into a pavement chamber http://www.coolwebhome.co.uk/fibre-cornwall/ DSLAM is the rack mount on the left hand side of picture 4 and have never heard of one being removed from a cabinet in the wild.

Engineers will add line cards as and when demand grows and that cab with 8 blocks of 24 was filling up nicely even back in 2012 but this was in conrwall.

That would fit in a dual chamber lol, I remember as a child getting a square block into a round hole LOL, if you have difficulties installing something try applying some little force when inserting, if all fails try jumping on it or use a hammer

Paul

I think 147 has been pulled from the program. I would suspect the costs mounted too high

Not sure if anyone is still watching this thread. So it looks like cab 147 was TPON and would not get fibre. However they have moved my cabinet to 64 which is due to get fibre in April apparently. How can I find out where can 64 is? Thanks

In reply to a post by brianw:

Not sure if anyone is still watching this thread. So it looks like cab 147 was TPON and would not get fibre. However they have moved my cabinet to 64 which is due to get fibre in April apparently. How can I find out where can 64 is? Thanks

Its will be near/in Polden Avenue according to https://www.telecom-tariffs.co.uk/codelook.htm

In reply to a post by gt94sss2:

In reply to a post by brianw:

Not sure if anyone is still watching this thread. So it looks like cab 147 was TPON and would not get fibre. However they have moved my cabinet to 64 which is due to get fibre in April apparently. How can I find out where can 64 is? Thanks

Its will be near/in Polden Avenue according to https://www.telecom-tariffs.co.uk/codelook.htm

Yeah I see that too, however cab 147 that I've been moved from is in Polden avenue and that's the only cab there.