Xbox One now set up ....Thoughts

Packaged nice and tight and better than the Playstation 4 in that respect,Kinnect is about the size of the Playstation 4 but the picture is far superior I have to say that,not saying that the camera is no good on the Playstation 4 but side by side Microsoft camera obviously is of higher quality.

Not tested the Kinnect apart from the picture of me sitting here as I went through the install options.

Controller...

Very similar to the 360 controller so not really that much of a change,had to buy a plug and play kit as it uses standard batteries which quite frankly is ludicrous in this day and age,so Playstation 4 wins this argument out of site.

Looks...

Like a VCR from the Eighties and I don't care what anyone else thinks....it does ..

But at the end of the day it's what's on it and how it performs and how long it lasts reliability wise.....yes I've had a faulty Playstation 4 so I'm not saying this is going to be the same,but based on the 360 horrendous problems then I hope Microsoft have a stable reliable system in place.

Install times...

Now this is where the Playstation 4 literally anyalates the Xbox One.

I am now having to go through a install procedure of Dead Rising 3, it took at least 10 minutes and around 20 % of installing before it gave me the option to play it, now some 20 minutes later it's still installing and is two thirds through completing the install procedure .

Sorry Jaxx but within 30 seconds you can play any Playstation 4 game and literally minutes later it's fully installed! I would say that Killzone Shadowfall took about 5 minutes to fully install but was playable within seconds.

So on this count the Playstation 4 wins this argument hands down...., may be in the future with new firmware and drivers Microsoft may improve this slow procedure.

Overall it's a nice system and I'm not going to say which is better as reliability and the games that are available on the system will dictate that argument.

I'm happy with how easy it was to set up,apart from retrieving all my Xbox live gold account information with security sent emails and text message I had to wait for to put in activation codes, you know how it is with this sort of stuff,they say they have sent you email confirmation to the email address ,but sometimes it's a hour later when this comes through.

Interface..

There are way more options and setting on the Xbox One home screen so in that respect it offers more than the sparse Playstation 4 home screen which is very nice and easy to navigate but limited compared to the Xbox one..

So to sum it up it's all about games and reliability ....and only the next 12 to 18 months or this time next year will we know what's what and who has the better exclusives.

Oh just one more thing....just tested the voice commands option that the Playstation 4 has also and it seems quite responsive, can not say it's any better as I have only just shouted a few options but it's silky smooth and fast....not that I care about these functions or Kinnect .

Now Dead Rising 3 has completed installing I'm going to have a quick 30 minutes... My thoughts later..


Timey

My Ryse and DR3 were digital downloads and took an absolute age to install despite my 80mb fibre!! (The Xbox does connect at full speed too!)

I usually found digitally downloads on the old 360 were way faster than anything on the Playstation 3, I can not believe Microsoft have took a step backwards in this respect.

Hopefully they sort it out with a future upgrade in there firmware

I'm not sure if the bottleneck was the download or the install holding up the download?

So basically what you are saying is that the PS4 is better

Just kidding, like you said it's all about the games, get the system that has the games you want.

Spot on but keep it quiet mate!it's our little secret

I wrote that in coded launguage and you obviously cracked it well done Sherlock

Post deleted by Sadoldman

Bye Bye

In reply to a post by time2die:

Bye Bye

I really hate goodbyes, don't you?

Especially old friends.

Registered on Fri 03-Jan-14 20:37:06

In reply to a post by time2die:

Packaged nice and tight and better than the Playstation 4 in that respect,Kinnect is about the size of the Playstation 4 but the picture is far superior I have to say that,not saying that the camera is no good on the Playstation 4 but side by side Microsoft camera obviously is of higher quality.

All the better to watch you with

Well they better prepare for XXX rated material

In reply to a post by time2die:

Not tested the Kinnect apart from the picture of me sitting here as I went through the install options.

That old chestnut.

I know what you and SPOOK wear when you Skype.

time2die in my view batteries is actually far superior, I will give my reasons.

Batteries are cheap, and if using rechargeables you can charge a spare set whilst using the current set in the controller. Meaning its never wired, whilst plug and play is wired hilst charging.
Plug and play kits if those batteries fail you have to buy an expensive replacement.

I actually brought a bettery case for my wireless 360 controller (it came with some native microsoft thing), and compared to the wii-u game tablet which comes with its own AC adaptor (ouch) its far superior.

I am curious why you think replaceable batteries are so bad.

On my 360 controller I am using 2000mah energizer batteries they last at an estimate of about 60-80 hours of gaming time and they charge in an hour.

My ps3 controller that came with the ps3 I brought is plug and play, and it seems to charge at a very slow trickle then when the cable is unplugged it doesnt last anywhere near as long as my energizer batteries.

So if the xbox one comes with removable batteries it has my vote.

In my view install times dont mean much, you only have to install a game once. Unless the install times are ridicously slow like hours long. To me 10 mins install time is nothing, I am used to 20 mins install times on the 360. In regards to the ps4 been fully installed in 5 minutes of around a 50 gig game? Thats 10 gig a minute, a lot of data transfer. I am assuming also this is on your old 5400rpm hdd, A 6x bluray drive reads at max of 216mb/sec, which I think be approx 25-26mB/sec, at that speed it doesnt seem likely that much data be copied in 5 minutes, but the ps4 may be reporting complete before its completed or not actually doing full installs. With all that said tho user experience is important and no matter what may be happening under the hood you have a experience of a much shorter install on the ps4. But it seems with that aside the xbox one dash is better in other things?

I agree ultimately its about the games, in my view xbox1 is winning there, but both consoles have a poor limited lineup at the moment, I need to wait a couple of years at least to see if any are worthwhile for me.

In reply to a post by time2die:

Not tested the Kinnect apart from the picture of me sitting here as I went through the install options.

Currently sat mucking about on the Playroom with the kids. Got the Vita connected as second screen (automatically) drawing stuff and flicking it onto the TV for the little nipbots to play with. Simple application, entertaining and works perfectly.

And I'm sat in my Superman onesy, just in case anybody is looking in. That'll learn 'em!

You big TIT

Don't think it will need a couple of years mate before we will see some outstanding games,personally I think within 6 months, watchdogs and Infamous second son look truly next gen if you see them on the Xbox one and Playstation 4.

What I meant by the Xbox one controller is it's equipped with standard batteries and not rechargeable kits like the 360 had.

I had a lovely charging station for the 360 that took 2 side by side units for the Xbox 360 controller and it was a breath if fresh air,I know I can go out and buy rechargeable batteries and a charger for it so what do you recommend instead of this plug and play stuff.

On the Playstation 4 install times,I might have exaggerated a little on the install times,but believe me mate it's way way quicker than the Xbox One and you can play a game within seconds and it was 10 minutes and 20% install before you could even start to play Dead Rising 3.

Actually I don't wear anything

You really are looking at the play menu in around a minute on most of the games I have installed. BF4 and COD took a little longer (because they are third party I suspect) but only by a minute or two.

There is a separate chip on the PS4 working in the background that speeds up the process tremendously. The read speed isn't the Xbox Ones' weakness. It's the actual application process that's longer.

On a purely technical level there is no reason why the drives shouldn't load in similarly swift fashion, other than the PS4's clever second chip in parallel operation. That in mind, an Xbox One firmware update won't improve things.

EDIT: Found this on Google.

"Assassin's Creed IV:
Xbox One (offline, no update): 5 minutes 50 seconds
Xbox One (with update, fastest connection): 7 minutes 2 seconds
Xbox One (with update, 10Mbps connection): 10 minutes 32 seconds
PS4: 42 seconds

The rest of these were tested on our office Wi-Fi which is around 9-11Mbps. It may have been faster on a wired connection, but you can compare your own connection speed here. These are our results

Need For Speed Rivals:
XBO: 09:25 (including update)
PS4: 00:32

Just Dance 2014:
XBO: 08:48 (including update)
PS4: 00:45

NBA Live 14:
XBO: 16:26 (including update)
PS4: 00:35

FIFA 14:
XBO: 16:06 (including update)
PS4: 00:34

Madden 25:
XBO: 9:38 (including update)
PS4: 00:38"

Edited by mrnelster (Sat 04-Jan-14 15:58:54)

I bought a 3m USB lead so I don't have a problem charging my PS3 controller whilst playing. I do use a wired controller usually but can't with GTA V as it doesn't react quick enough. I don't understand why people seem so anti cable these days

Edited by deleted (Sat 04-Jan-14 18:43:25)

Because it's easy....your tied to something and restricted like a hair dryer plugged in .....Simples

Same here. When it runs low I just plug in and carry on. It's no biggy with a longer cable.

Yep I have never had a problem with having to recharge the controllers, I would much rather be doing that then changing batteries.

Restricted from doing what?? When I'm playing I don't tend to wander far from my settee

Same.

I'm not sure what Chrysalis is doing, but getting 60-80 hours out of rechargeable batteries (triple A's I assume?) doesn't sound very likely. Rechargeables don't normally last as long as decent non rechargeables, that's why they have never been as popular.

no worries I do believe you on the install times that the ps4 is much faster.

I am ok with standard batteries as it means I can just use energizer rechargables which I find very conveniant.

I agree,

I am using a wired controller on my ps3 (one I brought as I hated the dualshock that came with it).

I am using wireless on my 360 because the wired I was using has started to wear out and although I brought a new controller I got used to using the wireless for now. But wireless does have disadvantages eg. if auto farming in games, then a wired controller is required.

My point was if a wireless controller needs a wire to charge then it defeats the purpose.

Edited by Chrysalis (Sun 05-Jan-14 03:29:28)

In reply to a post by mrnelster:

Same.

I'm not sure what Chrysalis is doing, but getting 60-80 hours out of rechargeable batteries (triple A's I assume?) doesn't sound very likely. Rechargeables don't normally last as long as decent non rechargeables, that's why they have never been as popular.

I am just playing games, the 60-80 is a guess, it may be more or less. But I do get a decent amount of hours out of the batteries. When they do run out its 30 seconds to grab the spares and swap them around. Also they double A's so bigger than triple A's.

Whilst the wii-u tablet is a joke with its built in battery, it lasted for me about 2 hours and takes about twice that to charge, so effectively have to keep it plugged in all the time.

Edited by Chrysalis (Sun 05-Jan-14 03:32:52)

I dont know what this chip does but installing a game i/o will be the bottleneck, but without googling I am going to guess this 2nd chip is dedicated to background installation of the game whilst the game is been played.

The sub 1 minute installs is easily explainable sony are doing the same as steam. When the game starts installing it puts on the critical files first, when they are in place the game can be launched but isnt yet fully installed. Most games on steam can be launched when only a fraction has been downloaded/installed, sony are just doing the same. This doesnt really need fancy hardware just clever programming, since its now commonplace on pc gaming.

i have been told of this second chip and understand it to be like a smart phone type processor that deals with allot of the background stuff leaving the main processor to play games .

Not sure exactly what background stuff it deals with , have been told it looks after private message's , notification's and party chat and now the installation of games .

But that's all i know and not being a techno geek i do have to take what others say on merit but looking at the load times of the xbox one versus the PS4 i would have to say the inclusion of the other chip is a very good thing .

Im still totally up in the air about which console to get and invest my time in , im still leaning towards the xbone as i spend 90% of my console time on the 360 gaming and chatting with friends something Microsoft got right very early on .

Being a social gamer there really was no other choice but a 360 but im feeling Sony learn from their weaknesses and the inclusion of a chat headset ( even though very basic ) really does say Sony gets why allot of people that owned both , chose the xbox as their primary online gaming machine even with the subscription .

Edited by deleted (Sun 05-Jan-14 06:23:36)

An interesting read here as to the strengths and weaknesses of each console at release bert.

If you are in no rush then it probably won't matter as MS will likely get the social side fixed sooner rather than later, but Edge aren't known for pulling their punches to be honest.

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

I dont know what this chip does but installing a game i/o will be the bottleneck, but without googling I am going to guess this 2nd chip is dedicated to background installation of the game whilst the game is been played.

The sub 1 minute installs is easily explainable sony are doing the same as steam. When the game starts installing it puts on the critical files first, when they are in place the game can be launched but isnt yet fully installed. Most games on steam can be launched when only a fraction has been downloaded/installed, sony are just doing the same. This doesnt really need fancy hardware just clever programming, since its now commonplace on pc gaming.

Indeed. If you follow my earlier link the differences are clear, even taking into account the fact the PS4 uses its secondary processor for downloading the update.

Assassin's Creed IV:
Xbox One (offline, no update): 5 minutes 50 seconds
Xbox One (with update, fastest connection): 7 minutes 2 seconds
Xbox One (with update, 10Mbps connection): 10 minutes 32 seconds
PS4: 42 seconds

I also assume it deals with the background install as well if you are still playing. I say this as I have noticed no slowdown at all whilst playing Killzone for example, even though the game is still installing at the same time. If it is purely the main CPU running the game AND installing it concurrently I would be very pleasantly surprised.

The only question would be why on earth Microsoft would hand such an advantage to Sony if the hardware differences are not relevant, especially seeing as MS are the software experts in comparison?

It lasts 4 hours not 2 as you obviously haven't charged it to its maximum capacity when getting the Wii U .

The battery life is terrible but its a nice device and has many benefits,lets also be honest there are not many people that actually sit there and play games for more than a few hours at a time.

I think in Japan they have just released some battery pack improvement for it.

Just seen Super Mario World 3D. Looks sweet for the kids. Might be a Wii U for their birthday then.

Downloading Gravity Rush for free from PS+ on the Vita and Rayman Origins for six quid (someone said it was better than Legends) but the pests have paused the downloads to play the Playroom drawing app on my flipping PS4 again.

Still waiting for Tearaway to come for free. There's no rush with all the other stuff I've still got to get through, so I didn't bother paying £19.99 for it.

Yes the article picked up on most of the things i noticed was missing from the user interface on the xbox one , things i use every day on my 360 . and also picked up on the clunky apps .

Lets be honest here , windows 8 is not Microsoft finest hour but still at every opportunity they try and stuff it down our throats , it all went wrong when they started calling programs , apps .

I now only use my windows 8 whilst gaming , preferring to dual boot into Linux for pretty much everything else i would hate Microsoft to take a similar rout with the Xbox ones user interface , which is exactly what they seem to of done , taking functionality away and making something that works well into something that dose not .

So for now i stay sitting on the fence .

Like you I bought both PS4 and Xbox One to run side by side, but problems with the xbox made me get rid of it, here's why, on the xbox, as I don't have a credit card, I tried putting in paypal as the funding means, but the xbox refuses to see it there as a viable payment option, despite the fact I use paypal without problems everywhere else.
Spoken to Maria and the high level advocacy team at microsoft, this was many weeks ago to get them to fix it, but nothing happened, spoke to six online advisors seeking help, they couldn't do anything, so I bought gift cards, then found out they expire in 30 days?
Not impressed at all, my PS4 on the other hand, perfect, well done Sony.

i don't have a credit card or a paypal account and would prefer not to have a bank account but that's not a option as you have to have some kind of bank account and some type of plastic just to function in this wonderful world where they can track everything you do .

Still i roll with cash money at every opportunity and have become ever so paranoid about my privacy and rightly so . still take issue with the kinect

I didn't realise you could buy on the PSN via PayPal? Is it obvious and I've just not looked properly?

Yeah, the PS4 camera plugs in at the back which is a pain unplugging it whenever I play, but I still do.

Not because I think they are taking anything they shouldn't, but just on principle.

The DS3 battery life was exceptional, as is the Vita's.

The DS4's is a bit of a let down, but I have two and like you say, never game for more than four hours usually. I will buy a 2 metre lead when I'm next in town so no problem then anyway. Pity the Vita's lead is proprietary and far too short to be useful when the battery goes.

You can add funds to psn online via your pc, after signing in you can select paypal to add funds.
I still buy psn points though for ease of use, why Microsoft stopped using them is beyond me.

It's having to use the light on always function, so the ds4 is using power too much, I bought one of the Sony dual shock chargers from Tesco direct, the official Sony one, for £24.99, and it's great, plugs into a spare power wall socket, and I leave it on charge until I need it, no more wires into my PS4.

I also bought the official Sony recharge unit that charges both the Playstation 4 duel shock 4 controllers and it works a treat.

No I'm not sending you tearaway

Also i forgot to tell you about a really nice touch with the Nintendo Wii U tablet,say you are playing a game on the tv and the kids want to play the playstation 4 but you really want to continue playing your wii u game,press a button on the tablet and you can play the game in all its glory on the tablet and switch the tv to the playstation 4.

Its great when you play Wii U games and see exactly the same on the tablet as what been screened on the Television.

It works a treat and it really is a nice little function .

Rayman Origins is another superb colourful platformer and well worth £20 never mind £6

Edited by time2die (Sun 05-Jan-14 12:15:20)

In reply to a post by zrerz:

why Microsoft stopped using them is beyond me.

All part of the data mining. They have your credit card details (name address etc), ip address and facial recognition

Shut up and go play your Relic

Leave all the next generation stuff to those that own them

In reply to a post by time2die:

Rayman Origins is another superb colourful platformer and well worth £20 never mind £6

The GF's kids have that, I played it for about 3 mins before it annoyed the [censored] out of me

The reason I play my relic is I don't want BB in my living room thanks

Well Mr Timey you've been playing really aggressively today, the authorities have been informed

Way to challenging , difficult and to technical was it

Just really frustrating. Run along hit something and go back to the beginning, rinse and repeat until the controller goes out the window

I'm in wind up mode Mr Swan what is BB anyway

Edit....ah Big Brother like I said if they don't mind watching pocket biliards and me scratching my [censored] and they have nothing better to do then so be it.

Do you really think they use this Kinnect to watch people, isn't that a court case of extreme measures coming on with Microsoft law suite that will cost them Billions of pounds...I know there stupid based on there original Xbox Reveal.....But this STUPID ...

Is there any proof that this is what they intend on doing with Kinnect, I thought you could disconnect it anyway or is that not possible because I haven't officially looked into this...

Even if it was Spy Cam what possible gains could be made from watching people in there private home life, or are Micriosoft part of a Governent cover up and have joined forces.......

Edited by time2die (Sun 05-Jan-14 14:52:17)

In reply to a post by Lt_Swan:

The reason I play my relic is I don't want BB in my living room thanks

Well Mr Timey you've been playing really aggressively today, the authorities have been informed

3 new consoles and I have spent lass time playing games in the last month than at any other period....strange so much to play but not really in the mood and would rarther chill and watch TV at present

Yeah, the going back to the start thing is getting on my tits. The ps3 version would be much better than the small screen Vita.

Gravity Rush is beautiful, clever and innovative. And I can't get the fecking hang of it! Grrrr

6 months behind the time, saying that you waited and got it for free when I paid £29.99 for it,that's my problem I'm not about to wait for possibility that one day it may or may not become a freebie

It's a half decent game but then again I got bored pretty quickly with that along side many other I have downloaded ...

It's nice to play different games instead of the same FPS that swarm the market with most of them never offering much in the way of innovation .

Saying that and apart from really beautifull graphics what more can you do with a FPS,tell you what though I'm well and truly finished with the Cod Franshise after that Ghosts tripe,I know you think it's ok Nelly but that's because the matchmaking system and online modes seem to tolerate your fibre connection better...like I said once you could get a decent game of Battlefield 4 connection and bugs aside you would trade Ghosts in within days

I have been playing Rayman Legends loads over XMAS with my daughter and its a fantastic game but very difficult and annoying at times I agree. I think Legends has more save points in the levels than Origins though so maybe its not as difficult. That's only going by memory of the Origins demo so I'm not certain.

Microsoft appear to have ballsed up their implementation plain and simple, as apparently (after now googling) they have the same feature yet with much longer install times.

In reply to a post by time2die:

It lasts 4 hours not 2 as you obviously haven't charged it to its maximum capacity when getting the Wii U .

The battery life is terrible but its a nice device and has many benefits,lets also be honest there are not many people that actually sit there and play games for more than a few hours at a time.

I think in Japan they have just released some battery pack improvement for it.

That was after fully charged

When it arrived, it lasted 5 minutes, not even long enough to do the setup process on the console.

In reply to a post by mrnelster:

I didn't realise you could buy on the PSN via PayPal? Is it obvious and I've just not looked properly?

you can but its not as well integrated as the xbox marketplace.

On my 360 I can pay via paypal in the dash. On my ps3 I have to first goto the psn website and topup my balance manually via paypal, also can only be done in certian sized chunks.

Yeah I found that out red light on pad came on within minutes so I hooked up the charger and came back 2 hours later....I'm now going to play The Wonderful 101

Which is so underrated it hurts but it's made by those crazy people from Platinum Games who made Bayonette .

Apparently the first 2 hours of getting used to the control system will have you pulling your hair out in frustration [ that's me knackered then] as it only takes me a few minutes for total recall

I'm not surprised it don't last long as what you see on the Television is displayed on the tablet at the same time .

Which needs a little tinkering regardless of once installed you don't have to worry in general about it again

Well i eventually got around to installing it and i have to say in this respect Microsoft seem to have taken a backward step as the install times are a joke of the highest order.

Loaded disk into Xbox One and hit install,waiting 7 minutes when i then got a message [start playing] hit the start and guess what we get a roman picture with another installing screen that takes a further 20 minutes of yep you guessed it INSTALLING .

So after that i eventually got into the game and it looks very nice apart from its just a glorified button bashing game with extreme death animation scenes, and QTE at the ready , so after playing for about 30 minutes and doing very few things i decided its time to cook the tea,and when i ejected the disk i was given a error message that the game had not finished installing,thats 50 minutes later and the game hadn't fully installed.

Now I'm sorry Jaxx there is no defence here for these very poor install times and like i have said it will more than likely make no difference at the end of the day if it has some really quality games in the near future,but this does not excuse the fact that this is suppose to be a next generation console with far more grunt than a 360,and the 360 installs game at least twice as quick if not quicker.

Yeah we know Ryse is near 40 gig in size but come on,50 minutes later and it still only 3 quarters installed

Don't get me wrong the system so far is a nice bit of kit and so far extremely quiet but Sony have nailed the install and how quick you play a game scenario way better than Microsoft.

Edited by time2die (Mon 06-Jan-14 17:26:29)

I haven't got Ryse, but BF4, AC, DR3 and Fifa 14 all took about 10 - 15 mins to install but I could start playing them after only a few minutes.

Reading the below it sounds like you started playing it after 10 mins anyway? Except for the 20 mins when you opened it that sucks a bit.

Does it really matter if it's still installing if you can play it? Why did you try eject it while trying to make dinner? You could have just left it in and turned your Xbox off and it would have been done when you got back. If you go into Apps -> Settings -> Change the power to Always On it automatically does updates, installs etc. while your Xbox is off.

Plus most people buy one game every couple weeks or a month or something and play it, you buy 3 or 4 games a week and play them for only an hour or two so I guess it would get annoying if the install times were longer. You should try complete a game sometime

But I still don't think it's a problem as like I say, it lets you start playing after only a few minutes.

Jaxx the playstation 4 lets you play after minutes ,Ryse took 30 minutes to install before it lets you play,besides there is nothing like choice Jaxx.

In reply to a post by Jaxx281:

Plus most people buy one game every couple weeks or a month or something and play it, you buy 3 or 4 games a week and play them for only an hour or two so I guess it would get annoying if the install times were longer. You should try complete a game sometime

But I still don't think it's a problem as like I say, it lets you start playing after only a few minutes.

.

Jealous are we

Wish you would actually read what i actually said jaxx in the first place,having put in the Ryse Disk it took a estimated 7 or 8 minutes of installing,it then said ready to start,so when i clicked on that i was given a intro screen of Ryse and another red loading bar that took a further 20 minutes of loading before i could even start playing the game.

So that was 30 minutes ,so after a quick 20 minutes of playtime as i had other things to do i manually ejected the disk as i still haven't figured out how to actually eject the disk from the home screen with the controller thats when i had the message���Game not fully installed come up ?

So basically i didn't know that even after 50 minutes the game was still installing which however way you want to defend this procedure is not exactly very good for a next generation system.

I'm in a good position to make these good and bad points about both these systems Jaxx because i own them and I'm not a fanboy of either,but when i notice things i don't like about each machine I'm going to post it on here there and everywhere.

If Titanfall blows everyones socks of and they release superb exclusives that are way better than Sonys then i will be singing its praises,and remember i was a great supporter of the previous 360 and 99% of my games where bought for that system��..Why was that ?,because as we know the xbox 360 always had the better looking multi platform game and a better online service.

No things may take a different direction because as i have said and yet have to repeat myself again the playstation 4 installs and lets you play within minutes and the xbox one don't ��.Period

I did read what you said, did you not read what I said? I wrote "If it took another 20 mins after the initial 10 mins then that does suck". So I acknowledged that would annoy me too, please read my posts if you're going to pick at them.

There is no need to keep bringing up other stuff, I don't want to fall out again but you just keep saying the same stuff in all the threads. You keep mentioning the Xbox U turn on policies, Titanfall etc. Everyone knows you have an Xbox and the reasons why you didn't want them. You don't have to mention it in every single thread on here.

I am not disputing the PS4 is quicker to install, I have read it myself and it looks like it is but no that doesn't make me jealous. I was just trying to understand why it is a problem if most games allow you to play after the initial 10 minutes of install. Ryse being the exception to this.

Reading this again do you think I am jealous of you buying a few games a week? I thought you meant jealous of the install times. As if you think I am jealous of buying the games then you are certainly mistaken lol

Edited by deleted (Tue 07-Jan-14 12:03:14)

Well whatever

I repeat myself because certain individuals don't pick up on the original threads,unlike a lot of people that use this forum occasionally and disappear for weeks on end no fault of there own and no big deal.

Im on here posting every single day and i like talking about game consoles and everything thats right or wrong about them.

In reply to a post by Jaxx281:

I did read what you said, did you not read what I said? I wrote "If it took another 20 mins after the initial 10 mins then that does suck". So I acknowledged that would annoy me too, please read my posts if you're going to pick at them.

There is no need to keep bringing up other stuff, I don't want to fall out again but you just keep saying the same stuff in all the threads. You keep mentioning the Xbox U turn on policies, Titanfall etc. Everyone knows you have an Xbox and the reasons why you didn't want them. You don't have to mention it in every single thread on here.

I am not disputing the PS4 is quicker to install, I have read it myself and it looks like it is but no that doesn't make me jealous. I was just trying to understand why it is a problem if most games allow you to play after the initial 10 minutes of install. Ryse being the exception to this.

Of Course I'm going to keep mentioning Titanfall because its a Xbox Exclusive, so in your way of thinking i mention Titanfall once and say something like i wouldn't mind having a Xbox One just for Titanfall but because Jaxx don't like it I'm not to mention it again��..Are you for real..

You have just made another thread about Assassins creed which you have mentioned several times in your posts so get real Jaxx.