Watchdogs.....just me then?

I've come to the conclusion that it seems only myself and Jaxx are getting Watchdogs on these forums as everyone else seems to be waiting on reviews and thoughts of people with the game.

Make no mistake I will be giving it to you straight regarding my initial thoughts tomorrow afternoon hopefully if post man don't let me down..

Got Mario Kart 8 coming Friday and another Playstation 4 game the following Friday ,can not even think of the name of that one.

Oh yeah it's Murdered Soul Suspects.

Seen a few early reports and even those early people who have the game are really impressed even on 360 hardware.....talking Watchdogs here and not the above game.

Edited by time2die (Mon 26-May-14 17:57:07)

As you know I am not getting this but I hope it will be a great game, look forward to your no nonsense review If this ends up being mediocre then there is still nothing that really interests me on next gen.Only games that I know that are coming out this year that look good are Alien and Destiny.

Have every intention of picking this up tomorrow, not sure whether to go down my usual digital download route or not (most likely will seeing as it means myself and the lad get it 2 for 1 at a discount too)!!
I also have the advantage of being on 12hr days so I get to wait for your review Timey me old mucker!!

I was looking at Murdered Soul Suspects as i liked the look of it, it's gone very cheap before it's even out though so I'm very wary of that as well. I will no doubt pickup Watchdogs but will prob wait for the usual pretty quick Ubisoft price drop.

Yeah mate wait until around 2pm Tuesday afternoon before you download it,i know we have slightly different tastes but if it really isn't what its all hyped up to be i will let you know.

Far Cry 4 is slated for a November release Trance and its bound to look and play better on next generation hardware than Far Cry 3 and that was a brilliant game.

The Alien Isolation game you talking about isn't for me as its based on the original Alien Movie and the game is more of a shock tactic type of game with lots of so called scares but not much in the way of killing Aliens that we really want.

After all there is only 1 Alien in the game so i just don't see this being my cup of tea,you never know it may surprise but its not on my Radar����..Destiny ��..Yes

I will give you my thoughts and opinions tomorrow afternoon after about 60 minutes of gameplay,if it good i will give it loads of praise,if it isn't then i will hammer it��

Hopefully its really good and actually lives up to all the hype�..

Its nearly 1am and i still can not find any reviews����.

Main reason I didnt buy it as I have plenty of games to play, I may well buy it at some point, just isnt any plans to in the near future.

i said before " im done with preordering " and i meant it .

If it has a good multi player or co op campaign i will get it for next gen , if not , i will pick it up in a steam sale for the PC .

WatchDogs is already in the low 20s , so that game seems to be playing out to my plan .
So for now i will stick to it , Multi Player next gen , Campaign PC whilst in a sale .

Looking forward to your review .

Edit: i meant wolfenstein not watchdogs

Edited by deleted (Tue 27-May-14 09:39:48)

Reviews as i find them.

Review iGN 8.4.

Looks like its not the masterpiece we were hoping but a decent review .

Polygon�.8/10

And thats good from that site.

Gametrailers�.8.9


DuelShockers�.9/10

Edited by time2die (Tue 27-May-14 09:00:10)

Thanks mate , still looks a interesting game would like to see a update though when the online is populated as it could be another GTA to start with , which was a superb game once the online was sorted .

Just bought it from town, traded in Marvel Superheroes, Black Flag and GTA5 so I got the game for free!

I have put it in and you'll be happy to know T2D it took 9 mins to install and I'm now on it. Will let you know what I think in a couple of hours!!

Initial thoughts are it's good fun, there is a lot to do in the game and is very hectic. You can be driving around looking for the next story mission and 2 or 3 side missions pop up, another player might join your game or some other random event.

I quite like it when other people join it gets very intense trying to find them. I've only done a out 6 story missions so far but they haven't wowed me as much as GTA did. Hopefully they will get a bit more exciting as it goes on, there seems to be plenty of them.

Hacking cameras and creating decoys etc is good. Very assassins creedy in that way. The best bit is getting chased by police or enemies and using the bollards, traffic lights etc to wipe them out

Hi guys.
Well it arrived at 2 pm loaded it up and I'm impressed,graphically it's no Infamous second son but looks nice all the same,as for missions I've done very little apart from taking on a robber and getting to my first hideout.

Like Jaxx said there is plenty to do and the map seems pretty full,noticed some of the mini games are on the map but have not seen the Mechanical spider game which is what I'm interested in playing.

Don't know if I'm connected online as it didn't notice the option as I was loading the game or saw anything in the menu to turn it of.

It did say connecting to Ubisoft servers but that failed,but then I tried again it connected.

Overhaul it doesn't look as crisp and sharp as the E3 2012 build but I'm well pleased at present and I'm yet to actually do anything if I'm honest.

The hacking is great fun but I would say from what little driving I have done this is the poor part of the game and it's very arcade like in terms of handling .



On a serious note I think I am really going to enjoy this Watchdogs,until I have spent 5/6 hours on the game it's hard to give a full opinion.

Not played any of the multiplayer and I don't really intend yo until I have got really used to the controls,map and hacking ability.

I guess I can be invaded though.....but not by Jaxx or Jorkila .......

Update.....

Now about 2 hours in and I'm really in love with this game,prefer it to the mighty GTA5 without doubt,not that I'm a great admirer of the GTA series but that game was a class product even though the driving of any of the flying vehicles was a pain in the butt..


I just love the stealth and action and hacking is great,just as well as really this is all about hacking ,the ability to hack into things like cameras and then move on to the next camera is genius .

Like I said it's a really nice looking game but I wouldn't say next generation nice,but from the very limited time I have spent playing it I'm having a ball....

Can not wait until later this evening to load it back up and explore some more because as if yet I have achieved about 1% of what's on offer and have virtually seen and done nothing but have had so much enjoyment the last few hours.....

I'm sure it's going to be one of my top ten games based on the small amount of playtime I have put in it.
Found the online mode in the settings and that is set to on for invasion,as of yet nobody has invaded my game and stole my 2$ I hacked
At the end of the day it's nice that a game looks really as nice as possible and Watchdogs doesn't disappoint ,it's also nice that when you actually start playing a new game it's hard to switch of,and same again applies to Watchdogs it doesn't disappoint .

Well impressed but I'm guessing there is so much more to do and talk about over the next few weeks,if you think about it my initial thoughts are about 1% of the game!I have yet to touch a mini game!get hacked or play any of the online modes.....so fingers crossed I might feel even more impressed at a later date"........


Check out this glitch

Edited by time2die (Tue 27-May-14 17:03:44)

Mate wait until you play the spider tank mini game it's amazing! SO much fun. You can unlock new abilities for him and all sorts. The mini games are really well thought out. Rocking around in a big spider tank shooting down choppers whilst climbing up buildings is a ruck of fun!

Yeah mate those type of mini games I can spend countless hours on trying to achieve high scores and ranking up,when I first saw this spider mini game about a month ago I said to myself I would actually buy this game just to play these addictive mini games..

I'm really liking it Mate just a pity we all have different systems,long time since I was immersed in a game,infamous was the last .

Think the explosion effects are awesome,collision detection quite poor though ,to me the vehicles and driving are the weaker aspects if the game and don't go with the feel of the game,it's a minor gripe but these mechanics should have been stronger with the such a great game.

When driving I feel that I could be playing Crazy Taxi without the cartoon type characters .

Interesting to see the reviews which by all accounts are a little hit and miss and most thinking it great but others giving it average scores at best.

Meta critic it's at 84% and again some readers have really bashed the game yet others think it's awesome like me .....

Edited by time2die (Tue 27-May-14 17:23:34)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlT8mImE1GI

Not a massive difference graphics wise

Time to go to spec savers mate

Got it from the us store and after 15% download it let me start playing it
I've got to say although i've literally only just started the game i'm impressed by what i see!!
More later!!

Yeah matey I'm loving it going to put a fair few hours in later this evening .

Oh i forgot to mention ,it has the most realistic water effects i have ever seen in a Game Seriously the water looks real .

Edited by time2die (Wed 28-May-14 00:07:00)

Even better when it only cost me £36 and effectively being 2 for 1

main difference is lighting affects then. and of course more npcs/cars.

I finished Act 1 last night, the last mission of Act 1 is good fun, I really enjoyed it. Very Metal Gear Solid-esque.

Back to work today and can't play it now until the weekend I think it's a great game, really really enjoying it now. I still think the GTA main missions were better, but this does side missions better. Although let's see what Act 2 has in store, I may completely change my mind. It looks like there are 16 in that one so a fair chunk to get through.

Well I've put about 6 hours into this game and in my opinion it's lived up to my expectations,should I complain that the map is just packed with so much to do it can feel quite confusing .

So many perks and skill trees to unlock,side missions by the dozen and hacking is something you need to be doing constantly.

It's a gem of a game and I'm addicted to playing it which to me us the sign of a really beautiful game,guess it doesn't really do to much different and it hasn't really redefined the genre but what it does it does in such a fantastic way and the game does grip you like a game should.

Just noticed that it has a day/ night cycle which is really cool and like I mentioned some of if not the best water effects I have ever witnessed in a game.

Think this game will take me literally weeks to finish based on the amount of content,still yet to play multiplayer as I'm happy just roaming around the city slowly completing mainly side quests ,I'm only on Act 1 of the main mission as the amount to do on the map is quite staggering.

Nelly hurry up and pick this up as I want to put my Hacking skills to good use....

Sounds like you're enjoying this as much as I'm enjoying Assassins creed

It's brilliant Swanny and it hasn't failed to disappoint ,there is so much to do and see and at this rate based on my map percentage and mission percentage I could play this for a month before I finish it.

The Assassins creed you talk about along with Jaxx,are we talking the latest game or what?

I bought that on the Playstation 3 but I just can not get along with those games and have tried to like them but quickly end up trading them

If it is the latest game then it's the one with the map that also has just far to much to do for my liking,sometimes games can have far to much going on and I'm overhauled with this Watchdogs map even though it's not the same size and scope of GTA5.

You got to buy this Watchdogs Swanny it's brilliant .

Well glad to hear this has turned out to be good, just watched the IGN review and they gave it a 8.4..which sounds about right from what you guys have said so far.

I'll get watchdogs at some point. Yea the latest AC, black flag, brilliant game. I never expected it to be this good

Might have to revisit it some day given the amount of praise both you and Jaxx have given it,knowing myself and the amount of games I buy I probably didn't give it much of a chance to impress me.

glad you finally got a game you enjoy now.

i enjoy quite a few mate on and off like Infamous Second Son and i have been having a ball with Killzone Shadow Fall,but for every decent game there are 10 Turkeys.

Should have Mario Kart 8 today as that was sent yesterday,didn't need this game really as Watchdogs is what I'm loving playing.

the pc version might be the reason for the embargo. seems a mess.

http://www.polygon.com/2014/5/28/5757992/watch-dogs-...

watchdog could be a ps4 system seller given ps3 version has less immersion and the pc version is a trainwreck.

I know the PC version is having problems with certain Graphic Cards and drivers but they are not that bothered as only a few individuals such as Toady are still playing with PCs ......

Wait for Mr Toady reply with bated breath .....

They really should make the PC the lead development system, but as usual, they go for the cheap option...

Hate to disappoint you, but PC game sales are going to exceed console sales this year. Linky

Will get even more interesting when the Steambox comes out next year...

Steam Box actually interests me,what doesn't is giving umpteen manufacturers to make it,think the last count was something like 14.

And some of these systems where around £1000 ...

In reply to a post by MrTAToad2:

Hate to disappoint you, but PC game sales are going to exceed console sales this year. Linky

Will get even more interesting when the Steambox comes out next year...

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Well PC gamers must be buying them totally online then as retail game shops have all but given up on the PC Market apart from the AAA games.

Seems to be pretty much only one high street seller at the mo. Game. I'm sure they survive because little Johnny gets his mum to buy him a game because he's been such a good boy today.
I only ever use them for bargain bin games

Edited by deleted (Thu 29-May-14 17:50:16)

Clearly they didnt see it much as a priority, in my mind if not prepared to put proper resources into a platform then dont release on that platform, they probably spent more on marketing than the pc development.

What I feared may be coming true also, when the PS4 was announced with its 8gig video memory, that was a new thing for the industry, and the first thing that entered my mind was this will make developers lazy. One reason developers love upgraded hardware is it makes their job easier, no need to optimise your software so it runs well with less resources. The issues with PC seem to at least partially stem from over utilisation of video memory, the game seems unoptimised.

I also seen comparisons of ps4 vs xbox one, as I said before the resolution diff isnt noticeable, however the xbox one has had other changes like shadow quality been reduced, less lighting effects and has tearing issues, those are noticeable.

correct, was same with dark souls 2. Dev's at E3 lied out their backside claiming pc is the dev platform.

Then turns out PC is a xbox 360 port. Even shows xbox360 controls in its dialogs.

Clearly they just doing whats cheap, dev for one platform only and then rest get ports. However at least dark souls 2 runs ok on a pc, it runs brilliant in fact, whilst watchdog seems a trainwreck, bringing titan's to their knees.

I can see the difference between 720 and 1080 just as I can with a TV screen. I have Magoo eyesight, so you are either blind, are still trying to compare those [censored] compressed YouTube videos, or have some other point you are trying to prove.

Take Toadys videos. They all look pants definition wise, but in reality they're not. In true 1080 the difference is very easily perceptible.

Back in the day no one used to complain about graphics when we were all playing on low end PC's and SNES / Mega Drives / Atari's. Everyone used to just enjoy playing the games and talking about the games they were playing. Now there is this huge divide in gaming between PC and console and it's boring the hell out of me. When did graphics become the upmost importance in games? Give me a game with a killer gameplay experience over graphics any day of the week.

There are some good people on here but I am sick to the back teeth of people just saying "wahhhhhh pc is better" "wahhhhh console is better"

Just enjoy the bloomin' games people this is why I now frequent xbox gaming forum more so at least I don't have to read the same stuff everyday.

And to further add to my post I have a great gaming pc and the Xbox One and I love gaming on both of them. The PC has wicked graphics but the Xbox is a lot easier to just flick on and have a quick game of something. There is a lot more variety and particularly a lot more to play with friends.

For me gaming is a fun experience and a sociable one. I often have friends around so we sit and play Xbox Arcade games or things like Trials. I can't really do that on my PC, it's fun playing online with people on PC but nothing beats having a few mates around all with their own pad getting competitive and enjoying some games together.

Too many grumpy old men on here

In reply to a post by Jaxx281:

Give me a game with a killer gameplay experience over graphics any day of the week.

Totally agree, which is why MineCraft is so popular even though it looks like [censored] (I've never played it)
I'm still playing Lord of the Rings Battle for middle Earth (8 years old now) on my PC

Well said Jaxx, I'm the same, have a pc which is capable of playing these so called AAA titles maybe not all on high/ultra but still at a level that is better than next gen but as you say thats not always the point, I'd much rather have a game that plays great rather than looks great if it does both the it's win win!!
The trouble is half the time we don't allow ourselves to get beyond the mediocre graphics of most of today's games!!
Everyone seems to be more obsessed at how a game looks over the gameplay which is just laughable and all it really is is just fanboyism ant elitism!!
It's high time the developers AND the gamers went back to basics and have a think back to the good old days of the atari 2600

Edited by jorkila (Fri 30-May-14 11:44:11)

Hey turn it in�Me and toady like to have a little banter about PC v consoles and all though i agree with some of your points Jaxx I'm sorry when a game looks fantastic,graphical wise and it has the gameplay to match thats what its all about.

You didn't buy your Xbox one to see games no better than whats on your previous 360 so get real matey,sometimes basic games can be good on tablets and be a lot of fun,but we are not living in the days of the snes and mega drive when graphics were unimportant .

Nobody's grumpy its banter and opinions,its a gaming forum to put across what people think about games and next generation consoles and PCs.

Why did you upgrade if you wasn't bothered about consoles,i don't want to end up having a flaming war with you once again Jaxx but some of what you say is totally aimed at myself and you know it.

Problem with you my friend you frequent these forums not on a regular basis like the majority of us,and when someone has views and points that go against what you think you get on your high horse and say what you feel and have total disregard for anyones else opinions and views.

And I'm going to repeat yet again what does it for me,games that look drop dead gorgeous like the last of of,Infamous second son and watchdogs to a degree and many more.

If you wasn't bothered about graphics then you could have stuck with your 360 because there is little on a Xbox one that you can not get on a 360,and please don't say the [censored] Ryse game and Dead Rising 3.

Here ,Here

Huh what are you on about? It wasn't particularly aimed at you, it was at the argument in general that comes up again and again of console vs PC. Mate you have always hated me and nothing I say you like I have just learnt to live with that. You never like anything I say even though I usually present it in a pretty clear and concise way

I didn't say I don't like good graphics, I even said I love the graphics on my PC. I just mean that sometimes people get too wrapped up in graphics and forget about good gameplay or anything else. When games have both then of course that is the best possible combination and is gaming at it's best I agree with you on that.

I wish sometimes you would just read my posts and not assume I am having a go at you, instead you always seem to come back to me with horrible remarks without actually reading what I have said. It's not a very fair way of using a forum.

You bothered to get Watchdogs yet Jaxx?
Played the spider tank mini game last night Timey and oh my god what an absolute blast!!
The trouble I have with these type of games is I get lost in all the side missions and end up forgetting what I'm supposed to be doing in the main campaign lol
For the record this so far is the game of the generation for me!!
Graphics that are good enough to warrant being next gen and even better game play

Edited by jorkila (Fri 30-May-14 13:50:42)

Like I said Jaxx it isn't that I dislike you at all,how can someone dislike someone they don't even know.

There are a select few of what I would call hardcore regulars on here like myself ,nelly,toady,Swanny,trance,Crysalis and a few others.

I like your posts and views actually,but to say your sick of hearing about graphics and PC v Consoles debate is hard to swallow.

Then you tell us that's why you prefer the Xbox forums and that's why you don't visit here as often as others because of the grumpy old men and views that you don't agree with.

Unless you been living in a cave for the past 12 months ,every major game site and journalist has done nothing else but talk about next generation graphics,resolution arguments and everything else associated with gaming and next gen.

Look at all the articles saying how the promised E3 2012 watchdogs footage was what the game would look like on a nice PC and the new consoles ,hundreds and hundreds of sites comparing that build to what we have now on the retail disk.

Personally I think Watchdogs is absolutely fantastic,it's not got the graphical flair of the E3 build of 2012 but am I complaining.

Realistic graphics in games makes the thing a lot more realistic ,try telling Rockstar, Naughty Dog,Bungie and loads of other top developers graphics are not important.

If they wasn't important there would be no need for upgraded hardware and we still be using our spectrum 128 k machines.

I do totally agree that gameplay and addictive games are just as important,but when they got kick [censored] graphics to match that playability then you have the finished article which is way better than either one or the other just on there own.

It's extremely rare when a game gets released with drop dead gorgeous visuals and ends up been a total disappointment ,and accepting that graphics and looks and realism is not as important as just gameplay is a open letter to developers to sit on there laurels and become extremely lazy.

I think it's great that you accept a game for its gameplay regardless of how it looks in 2014 ,I'm different and seek quality ,it doesn't have to have draw dropping graphics but I want to see the leap from past generation and not buy games that look like there from the Playstation 3 era when I have invested money on a console with 10 x the grunt.

So I do not dislike you for one minute,we have had more than our differences over the years and that's expected ,all I ask is you respect that some people are not contented with what's good for you.

Add that we are basically paying £10 to £15 more for these games on the new consoles so I expect way better even at this early stage and so should you .

And The PC v console debate is mainly me and me old buddy Toady having a great little bit of banter that to us anyway brings a smile to our little faces.

Don't forget i to was a PC gamer and nothing else once,but unlike Toady i saw the light and my soul was cleansed and baptised with holy water and the dreaded PC was Wrenched from my mind and i fell in love with the superior and all my sins where forgiven���..Amen Sony Cast out that Wicked Toad as he will corrupt your mind with PC jargon.

Edited by time2die (Fri 30-May-14 17:37:11)

It's brilliant Kila and I agree entirely with everything you say regarding Watchdogs,it's going to take me months to finish,like just doing side missions I think I have completed not 10 % of the game!so much to do so much to see!been hacked a few times and I have hacked others.

Not touched the multiplayer apart from people hacking me now and again,oh and the digital dream games like Spider.....what a blast ,yeah Jaxx has played it he talked about it earlier in the week

In fact I could spend a whole evening either just doing side quests or playing the digital trip games,better still I would have bought this game just for Spider and the other mini games.

Absolutely loving it and I look forward every night to putting the game on.....now that's the sign of a true addictive game.

In reply to a post by time2die:

Absolutely loving it and I look forward every night to putting the game on.....now that's the sign of a true addictive game.

Feel the same about AC 4

Glad to here it Swanny I may pick that up again at some point.

In reply to a post by jorkila:

For the record this so far is the game of the generation for me!!
Graphics that are good enough to warrant being next gen and even better game play

Good enough for me, gonna try to pop out and buy it tomorrow if me knackers hold out.

To be honest, "better graphics" is always an ambiguous forum subject. Most people are referring to texture detail. I'm sure next gen consoles will get better and better in this regard, as the generation rolls on.

For me, its all about the quality of those textures. Less is more if the anti aliasing is more accomplished and most importantly, the definition is as high as possible.

That's why I'm not fussed about Watchdogs graphics being on par with GTAV. The only fault I could find with GTAV was the definition. It was generally good, but at times flying around the city on me Lambretta Martini (or whatever it was called!) hurt the eyes.

From what Timey and Kila have said, Watch Dogs sounds more than adequately polished, even if it is pushing graphical boundaries.

You had the snip or something Nelly?
You won't regret getting Watchdogs matey!!

no, I have tried various times in past adjusting game resolutions, videos I watch etc. and 720p to 1080p is only noticeable if you look for it.

especially 720p to 900p which is lower gap.

This has been highlighted when we had lots of people claiming 1080p footage was so much better than it turned out to not even be 1080p.

I may deliberatly play games on my pc e.g. on lower than max resolution so I can be sure of better framerate and higher graphical detail. As adding pixels one thing is certian is it chews up video processing time and video ram for little gains.

Granted i dont play on behomoth 40inch screens tho where it may be more noticeable, my judgement is on 22inch monitors.

I think the main downside of dropping resolution on say a 1080p screen is that LCD's dont handle non native resolution's well so may get uneven spread of pixels. Certianly 720p will look better on a native 720p screen than on a native 1080p screen.

Increasing resolution has a point where the benefits become less and less and eventually is pointless, eg. I see 1080p on a smartphone completely pointless, no need for such high pixel density.

Edited by Chrysalis (Fri 30-May-14 23:26:29)

Yep, and it didn't quite go to plan for some reason or another. I blame the scaffolders.

Anyway, the upside is I get to sit on my butt all weekend and (if the missus doesn't let me down as it's all her fault ) get to play Watchdogs.

What do you reckon to the resolution (not the graphics) on the Xbone Kila? From the comparison video, other than the small details like the mud on the car (that I wouldn't even have noticed if Iraniangiraffe hadn't of pointed it out) the clarity looked really really good on both consoles?

If GTA online (if it ever arrives) looks as crisp, we are in for a treat there too I reckon.

Thought you had matey from your comment lol I had it done almost 11 years ago now, (I'm only 34)!!
Obviously it's a job to compare unless you have the two systems running side by side in front of you but to be honest i'm impressed with the graphics so if it's any better on the ps4 then you're in for a treat mate.
You see the thing is if I had a ps4 then for what ever reason got rid of it for an xbox one and realised the bone was less powerful and didn't look as good graphically then I'd be cheesed off.
But seeing as I've not had a ps4 I don't feel that I'm missing out in any way whatsoever!! (other than the exclusives but i guess that works both ways)!!

It does indeed, Titanfall being the prime example!

Like I said, if IranianGiraffe hadn't mentioned it I wouldn't have noticed the difference other than the deeper car colours on the bone. I'll find out when all these flaming women [censored] off to bed!

What about Metro Redux, you fancy it? I reckon it's a lot of game for 28 quid and the PC footage I saw of Last Light looked beautiful. If the consoles get close to it I'll be well happy.

And as you've "been there" you'll likely understand why I feel like I've been hung on a fence wearing me dungarees mate.

Have to have a look at the Metro series as it's not something thats caught my attention before!!
As for the snip mate to be honest mine went without a hitch, only reason I had a week off work was because I was a FLT driver at the time and the doc gave me a sick note for a week!!

The main problem with Metro 2033, is that if you have a joypad plug-in/active, you HAVE to use it in parts, rather than the mouse or keyboard, which is rather stupid on a PC...

I was a FLT driver at the time and the doc gave me a sick note for a week!!

Fat Lazy Truck/Taxi......?

Yeah when the Xbox One actually has a exclusive worth talking about that is ?

Yeah be we ain't on about the PC Mr Toady

I played the last Metro game on the 360,it was ok for a few hours but I quickly traded it just a few weeks later so I don't think the redux is for me,The last of Us and GTA 5 yes but not Metro.

Fork Lift Truck lol but some of that was right Nelly

In reply to a post by jorkila:

Fork Lift Truck lol but some of that was right Nelly

And man, you were right about watchdogs!

I'm pretty sure Timey will be caught trying to hack the control tower at Heathrow this morning, and I can imagine his interrogation taking a while, so I'll fill in for him.

PSXextreme review.

The Good: Great detail. A dynamic, lively atmosphere that puts immersion through the roof. Several great voice performances and tons of fantastic special effects. Hacking mechanic is an excellent twist on the standard action/adventure style. Moralistic elements add another dimension. A ton of stuff to do.

The Bad: A few control issues, especially with the driving. So much more could�ve been done with the story and protagonist. Online invasions are a little blas�.

This sums it up for me. He's spot on about the hit and miss nature of car performance, but there are other handling issues that I mentioned to Magoo last night. The chase camera could be better. It's also very easy to hack the wrong thing by accident, so you have to be far more measured than sometimes the frantic ratcheting up of the pace allows for. It jumps from stealth to balls out action in the blink of an eye.

But the real gripe I have is "O" being the jump button and "X" being crouch. The majority of games (that I've played anyway) are the other way round and with the required co-ordination for free running/shooting/climbing concurrently, it really didn't need to be different. Once you get used to it it's ok though.

As for the visuals, it is obviously better than GTAV when you immerse yourself, but there is a lack of texture detail, primarily on the buildings. The lighting tries to make up for it and doesn't do a bad job, especially, as mentioned by many reviewers, at night. So ground breaking it aint, but it has improved quite significantly in terms of visual "clarity" over GTAV.

What is truly special though, is the trumpeted "life" in the city. It really is packed with people and sounds. It's akin to the ambience of a school cafeteria. If you walk with your hacking thingy open, every where you look you hear people's conversations without having to stop for a second. It is truly brilliantly done.

I locked Magoo out last night when he started messaging "Heeeere's Johnny!" lol, but now i have the hang of the driving a bit better, I'll open up the invasions tonight. Bring it on Grandad.

To sum up, if you liked GTAV, this is an amazing game that replaces in your face, with something a little stealthier and more delicate in approach. But when it kicks off, it's just as much fun.

The Ugly: �Some of the stuff people are doing in their �private� lives are beyond �ugly.��

I think he means me.

Edited by mrnelster (Sun 01-Jun-14 11:13:45)

So you don't like it then

As i said Nelly i don't think you can literally pick who you want to invade,if you can then your top of my wanted list,I've left you some money at one of the so called hotspots,tourist,building names whatever they call them,only friends can collect it.

Don't get spending it on drugs and Hookers unless I'm invited ?

You know what mate, thanks but I'm not going to bother. You are right, you cannot hack a friend which goes against all the marketing hype from the publishers. There are a few petitions popping up and maybe it will come as an update.

The worry is about boosting apparently, but that's easy, make it XP free, like private games in COD etc. This sounds like a really stupid move by UBI.

I still get hacked by and have fun chasing "Fixers" in the game, so I doubt I'll bother opening it up for some divvy to nick all my dough and weapons.

Yeah I've got my online turned off too!!

Why? It's more fun,and they don't take all your money and weapons.

In reply to a post by mrnelster:

But the real gripe I have is "O" being the jump button and "X" being crouch.

Really annoying when they do that

In reply to a post by mrnelster:

IBut the real gripe I have is "O" being the jump button and "X" being crouch. The majority of games (that I've played anyway) are the other way round and with the required co-ordination for free running/shooting/climbing concurrently, it really didn't need to be different. Once you get used to it it's ok though.

It's taken me ages to get to grips with the handbrake and looking behind!!
The amount of times i've gone to skid around a corner but end up crashing whilst looking behind lol

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< WOOOOOHOOOOO look who's now experienced !!!!!!

congratulations, welcome to the club

<<< that just made me think, where the hell is Spookeh ? aint seen him on here in ages =/

It's not necessary, but typically Ubisoft. Game controls, nuclear aircraft carriers. They always have to do their own thing.

That didn't work very well either (dodgy propellers)