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Hi All,
Just wanted to announce that I have ordered a YouFibre 1GBps up and down with a Static IP service being installed at the end of the month, you might be saying, why are you telling us, well simply I will update you through the stages and process as there isn't much about YouFibre out there.
I want to add that I will be using an Omada ER7206 V1 router (Connected to an Omada Software controller) and will advise of the configuration that goes along with this. (Although this is similar on most)
It is my understanding that there is MAC address binding on the YouFibre network meaning you have to spoof the MAC address of the router they give you (An Eero or Eero Pro).
I will of course report on this, the reliability, latency, consistently of service, speed etc.
The initial order was simple and all the details for the whole process are emailed to you, and the online FAQ on their website is extremely useful and provides the majority of questions you can think of.
Many Thanks,
RR-THE-IT-GUY
Virgin Media M500
Talktalk 2014-2018 → Virgin Media Vivid 50 2018-2019 → Virgin Media M100 2020-05/2022 → Virgin Media M500 2022-05/10/2023 → YouFibre 1Gbps symmetric |
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I probably should add that the install is on the 26-09-2023 in the morning.
Apparently one 2 hour appointment is required to do a cable pull, termination, fitting ONT and router.
Many Thanks,
RR-THE-IT-GUY
Virgin Media M500
Talktalk 2014-2018 ADSL → Virgin Media Vivid 50 2018-2019 → Virgin Media M100 2020-05/2022 → Virgin Media M500 2022-05/10/2023 → YouFibre 1Gbps Symmetric with Static IP |
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I went with you fibre in may. It wasn't the best of starts tbh and I still have some issues at the moment.
Originally I had a faulty splice from day one - symptoms were identifiable by inconsistent upload speeds bottoming out at around 200mb & generally be all over the shop. Took about a month to resolve as they tried numerous things before finally sending an netomnia engineer who re-spliced the connection. This resolved that upload issue. I would suggest you test with your own kit hard wired on the day both up and down before the engineer leaves. The engineer has no way of testing speeds apart from a wifi test via a phone... Of course I didnt install my own kit over on to the netomnia ont until later and then the problems started.
You will need to spoof the mac address of whatever router they supply as they have a couple of types avilable. DHCP is all you need on the wan port. I use my own opnsense router. I also opted for the static V4 address at an extra £5pcm as lots of gaming going on here.
Things settled down after this but over the last 4-6 weeks I have been having issues with latency/backhaul routing. Initially I was at 6.5ms for latency, this then rose to 7.5, then 10.5 and now its up around 20ms... I have had numerous conversations with you fibre who say it will get resolved as its a netomnia issue but its been going on a while. No match for my old zen FTTP which has a 5.5ms latency.
Yes its great having symmetrical but I just hope the increased latency is resolved but the longer it goes on I am not convinced it will get back to around 7ms
Current youfibre latency versus my old ZEN FTTP...
You fibre
OR/Zen FTTP
any other youfibre users here with 1gb/1gb static V4 and TBB ping chart they can share please?
Thanks for confirming the MAC Address spoofing, in regards to the issues, please contact Jeremy who will be able to help, I have had numerous conversations and he has been able to advise me each time, I'm sure he will be able to advise and see what can be done around this issue.
Many Thanks,
RR-THE-IT-GUY
Virgin Media M500
Talktalk 2014-2018 ADSL → Virgin Media Vivid 50 2018-2019 → Virgin Media M100 2020-05/2022 → Virgin Media M500 2022-05/10/2023 → YouFibre 1Gbps Symmetric with Static IP
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I have just found you in the system and I will get the DIrector of Networks to look at it on Monday.
Sorry for the inconvenience...It is not normal 
Jeremy
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any other youfibre users here with 1gb/1gb static V4 and TBB ping chart they can share please?
Certainly.
My Broadband Ping
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Ugh looks similar to my latency from Derry N.Ireland, was hoping youfibre would be lower latency but doesn't look like it would be.
Getting 13-15ms to London
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Ugh looks similar to my latency from Derry N.Ireland, was hoping youfibre would be lower latency but doesn't look like it would be.
Getting 13-15ms to London
To be completely honest, stability is a big + for most, and myself too, I also strongly believe that the benefits of the price point and speed of the service outweighs latency within reason. I also believe that the latency shown is still very low compared to some networks.
I can think of a few networks even leased lines that are higher.
I know I have lived next to a datacenter and managed to get under 3MS even as low as 1MS consistently, but its obviously rare, the UK doesn't have datacentres everywhere and even if it did ISP routing would be even more complex with the amount of routing connections etc required and headend exchange / physical fibre locations and equipment etc.
Many Thanks,
RR-THE-IT-GUY
Virgin Media M500
Talktalk 2014-2018 ADSL → Virgin Media Vivid 50 2018-2019 → Virgin Media M100 2020-05/2022 → Virgin Media M500 2022-05/10/2023 → YouFibre 1Gbps Symmetric with Static IP
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Hey. I can't add much more than what we have already discussed over email but I will go over it again here again for clarities sake.
The latency on the Netomnia (the access network) piece of the network is 1-2ms. That will be comparable / better than your FTTC latency with Zen. You are measuring latency from your home to Thinkbroadband. Thinkbroadbands network sits behind/within NetConnex (https://www.peeringdb.com/net/580) who are only available in Telehouse datacentre in London. We are present at Linx London, Wales, Scotland and Manchester and Linx London is the only place we receive advertisements for NetConnex. I stand to be corrected on any part of that, but it's what I can see based on BGP advertisements for the prefixes I see probes going to on those latency graphs of yours. So using Thinkbroadband alone to say whether our network has good or bad latency compared to another is in some ways misleading, you're purely judging the latency to Netconnexs network in Telehouse London.
However I appreciate this is an important destination for you, and indeed London is obviously going to be an important route for a lot of internet traffic in the UK. From your area of our network we use a backhaul provider to get back to London. That backhaul provider uses a ring on their network. Traffic can go across that ring either way depending on various factors. One of the paths goes via Wales and back to London, the other is much more direct. After a network failure on the backhaul providers network they started, and have continued to, route the backhaul via Wales rather than direct hence the higher latency you're seeing. We're discussing moving it back to the more direct route, and nailing the path down. That will be completed in the next 3-4 weeks I believe, but it's relatively complex for them to achieve, and requires a maintenance window. Nailing the path down has serious implications as redundancy is removed from that backhaul. To combat that we are also building in our own backhaul back to Bristol and onwards to our Wales datacentre where, as I mentioned earlier, we also breakout to the internet. So staging this change alongside that work is important to ensure continuity of service for yourself and others.
I hope that answers your query, and as I mentioned to you directly we are working on this but it's not simple and will potentially not be quick. ISP networks evolve as time goes on, I firmly believe it's important we provide stability and speed to our customer base and it's what we are always working to achieve and improve. That graph of yours will improve.
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Ugh looks similar to my latency from Derry N.Ireland, was hoping youfibre would be lower latency but doesn't look like it would be.
Getting 13-15ms to London
I'm in Wakefield and go via Manchester.
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1 45.92.47.33 0% 10 0.7ms 0.9 0.6 1.4 0.2 2 172.16.1.117 0% 10 5.3ms 5.3 5.3 5.4 0
3 172.16.2.17 0% 10 5.4ms 5.5 5.3 6.3 0.3 4 162.158.32.40 0% 10 6.6ms 7.4 5.7 12.8 2.1
5 162.158.32.11 0% 10 6.6ms 6.1 5.6 6.7 0.3 6 1.1.1.1 0% 10 5.3ms 5.4 5.2 5.7 0.2 |
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1 45.92.47.33 0% 20 0.8ms 1 0.5 3.3 0.6 2 172.16.1.123 0% 20 5.3ms 5.3 5.2 5.5 0.1
3 172.16.2.17 0% 20 5.6ms 5.6 5.3 6.2 0.2 4 172.16.2.16 0% 20 10.4ms 10.7 10.4 11.3 0.2
5 172.16.0.89 0% 20 12.1ms 12.7 11.7 13.8 0.7 6 72.14.223.160 0% 20 10.4ms 10.4 10.2 10.9 0.2
7 209.85.249.149 0% 20 11.1ms 11.4 11 12.3 0.4 8 172.253.65.211 0% 20 11.3ms 11.6 10.9 15.9 1.1
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Ah, not sure on what route they take for Derry, but I'm guessing it would exit MAN? Msybe Jeremy can show some core latency from Derry to MAN or LDN
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What I get with BT in N.Ireland
PING bbc.co.uk (151.101.0.81): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 151.101.0.81: seq=0 ttl=58 time=14.124 ms
64 bytes from 151.101.0.81: seq=1 ttl=58 time=14.404 ms
64 bytes from 151.101.0.81: seq=2 ttl=58 time=14.113 ms
64 bytes from 151.101.0.81: seq=3 ttl=58 time=13.724 ms
64 bytes from 151.101.0.81: seq=4 ttl=58 time=14.552 ms
--- bbc.co.uk ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 13.724/14.183/14.552 ms
traceroute to 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 172.16.13.244 (172.16.13.244) 1.777 ms * *
2 * * *
3 31.55.185.180 (31.55.185.180) 15.542 ms 31.55.185.176 (31.55.185.176) 14.327 ms 14.311 ms
4 core1-hu0-6-0-6.colindale.ukcore.bt.net (213.121.192.0) 14.290 ms core1-hu0-17-0-1.colindale.ukcore.bt.net (195.99.127.148) 14.273 ms core2-hu0-15-0-9.colindale.ukcore.bt.net (213.121.192.38) 15.409 ms
5 peer7-et-7-0-4.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net (62.172.103.164) 65.468 ms peer3-et7-0-1.redbus.ukcore.bt.net (194.72.16.74) 14.128 ms peer3-et3-0-1.redbus.ukcore.bt.net (194.72.16.184) 17.431 ms
6 109.159.253.75 (109.159.253.75) 14.142 ms 109.159.253.185 (109.159.253.185) 16.649 ms 109.159.253.75 (109.159.253.75) 15.211 ms
7 108.170.246.129 (108.170.246.129) 16.039 ms * *
8 dns.google (8.8.8.8) 15.923 ms 15.881 ms 16.374 ms
Edited by BuckleZ (Sun 10-Sep-23 18:31:43)
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Hey. I can't add much more than what we have already discussed over email but I will go over it again here again for clarities sake.
The latency on the Netomnia (the access network) piece of the network is 1-2ms. That will be comparable / better than your FTTC latency with Zen. You are measuring latency from your home to Thinkbroadband. Thinkbroadbands network sits behind/within NetConnex (https://www.peeringdb.com/net/580) who are only available in Telehouse datacentre in London. We are present at Linx London, Wales, Scotland and Manchester and Linx London is the only place we receive advertisements for NetConnex. I stand to be corrected on any part of that, but it's what I can see based on BGP advertisements for the prefixes I see probes going to on those latency graphs of yours. So using Thinkbroadband alone to say whether our network has good or bad latency compared to another is in some ways misleading, you're purely judging the latency to Netconnexs network in Telehouse London.
Hi All,
Just thought I would reply to this, an alternative site similar to Thinkbroadband's latency monitoring tool is: f8lure.mouselike.org
It works as well and does have some direct peering exchange points in LINX LON1, Manchester, Scotland. I will say I can't guarantee which interconnect facility the site is hosted at, as iomart hosting have a large number of facilities.
I will also say that in practice on Virgin Media's network I do notice a difference between Think broadband, and this service as well as for example Samknows whitebox.
It's worth noting you can set up a samknows docker for free, samknows has a wide range of UK and international based servers.
Like stated above please be mindful that this is only an indicator of latency to one service and is subject to third party factors.
The best way to measure latency is with a tool like NirSoft's ping info view allowing the pinging of multiple servers at once allowing a better idea of overall performance.
https://www.peeringdb.com/net/976
https://bgp.he.net/AS20860#_prefixes
Trace Route
Many Thanks,
RR-THE-IT-GUY
Virgin Media M500
Talktalk 2014-2018 ADSL → Virgin Media Vivid 50 2018-2019 → Virgin Media M100 2020-05/2022 → Virgin Media M500 2022-05/10/2023 → YouFibre 1Gbps Symmetric with Static IP Edited by RR_The_IT_Guy (Sun 10-Sep-23 22:51:21)
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Hi All,
Just thought I would reply to this, an alternative site similar to Thinkbroadband's latency monitoring tool is: f8lure.mouselike.org
It works as well and does have some direct peering exchange points in LINX LON1, Manchester, Scotland. I will say I can't guarantee which interconnect facility the site is hosted at, as iomart hosting have a large number of facilities. Just thinking out loud thats the frontend website for f8lure, are you sure the associated FireBrick hardware is on the same network?
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Just thinking out loud thats the frontend website for f8lure, are you sure the associated FireBrick hardware is on the same network?
That's a fair point, I should double check I know one of them is hosted at rapidswitch which if i remember correctly is in the same network but will check
AAISP is the second check let me also check details
Many Thanks,
RR-THE-IT-GUY
Virgin Media M500
Talktalk 2014-2018 ADSL → Virgin Media Vivid 50 2018-2019 → Virgin Media M100 2020-05/2022 → Virgin Media M500 2022-05/10/2023 → YouFibre 1Gbps Symmetric with Static IP
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Just thinking out loud thats the frontend website for f8lure, are you sure the associated FireBrick hardware is on the same network?
That's a fair point, I should double check I know one of them is hosted at rapidswitch which if i remember correctly is in the same network but will check
AAISP is the second check let me also check details
After checking, the AAISP hosted option it looks to use LINX LON1, LON1, LON2 and LONAP all at 10G
Looks like the interconnect facilities are equinix london and plusant maidenhead
On the plus side, still at LINX so wasn't far out.
https://www.peeringdb.com/asn/20712
For the other one, I will have to do some further digging as it is not jumping out at me quickly, and I don't feel like doing a deep dive at this time.
After looking at the second IP it looks to be with Cloudflare, at this point I can't really see more than that, since its Cloudflare there are a lot of public peering exchanges and interconnects so its hard to pinpoint exactly whats going on at this stage at least without doing more research.
Many Thanks,
RR-THE-IT-GUY
Virgin Media M500
Talktalk 2014-2018 ADSL → Virgin Media Vivid 50 2018-2019 → Virgin Media M100 2020-05/2022 → Virgin Media M500 2022-05/10/2023 → YouFibre 1Gbps Symmetric with Static IP Edited by RR_The_IT_Guy (Sun 10-Sep-23 23:28:21)
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This is like Avengers Assemble here...
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It's worth noting you can set up a samknows docker for free, samknows has a wide range of UK and international based servers.
Samknows seem to want paying.
https://samknows.com/technology/agents
Request that your SamKnows account manager add your DockerHub account to our organisation.
We will provide you with a one-line command to install the Docker agent.
Once your agent has been installed and started up, we will add your new agent to your SamKnows One account and you can assign it a test schedule.
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I hope that answers your query, and as I mentioned to you directly we are working on this but it's not simple and will potentially not be quick. ISP networks evolve as time goes on, I firmly believe it's important we provide stability and speed to our customer base and it's what we are always working to achieve and improve. That graph of yours will improve.
Every ISP network ever gets built to get folks online then gets modified to scale better, though not necessary well, to handle the increased customer base then, maybe, gets optimised.
Some obviously don't get to the third stage but you folks seem to know what you're doing so look forward to seeing the results
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Ah, not sure on what route they take for Derry, but I'm guessing it would exit MAN? Msybe Jeremy can show some core latency from Derry to MAN or LDN
Given the most direct fibre route on, well, every carrier goes via Manchester it would seem highly likely that you'd have an exit at Manchester and would, as required, be carried on YouFibre's network to London.
They don't dump folks off at Manchester or London compulsorily, it depends on the routes they're receiving from the outside world and how they choose to treat them. If they can connect directly to the provider of whatever you're trying to reach in Manchester it's likely a good idea for them to send you on your merry way there, if they connect with the provider in London only it makes sense for them to carry you on their network, and if they don't connect directly at either then the wonders of BGP and routing protcols will do their thing.
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I've been really happy with YouFibre. I was with Zen previously but, although the stability and service were great, I was stuck with ADSL with speeds of about 17/1.
Not wanting to go with Virgin, I was elated to discover that Netmonia/YouFibre were coming to town. I've been with them since the start of June and it's been rock solid (although I'm not a huge fan of the router - but it does its job).
I consistently get a bit more than the 150/150 I'm subscribed to which suits me fine.
Talking latency, I noticed that this rose last Wednesday just before 2pm from around 2ms to around 13/14ms.
Although it didn't affect anything for me, I rebooted/reset everything to see if it was something at my end (to no avail).
Good news, having been looking at this thread, I've also signed up to the mouselike monitor. At 11.48am this morning, both it and the ThinkBroadband monitor have observed my latency dropping back to 2ms.
I would recommend YouFibre to everybody!
Kroma
Edited by kroma (Mon 11-Sep-23 13:34:57)
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To expand on this, peering etiquette is that you carry traffic on your own network as close as you can to the destination, and in turn everybody else peered with you does the same thing. So if you're peered with a network in Manchester as well as London and reaching a service hosted in London, you carry that traffic to London, you don't dump it out onto the 3rd party network at Manchester and have them carry it back for you.
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But unless you are making separate announcements for "my Manchester netblocks" and "my London netblocks" to your peers (and them to you) you're not going to get the desired shortest routing.
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But unless you are making separate announcements for "my Manchester netblocks" and "my London netblocks" to your peers (and them to you) you're not going to get the desired shortest routing.
Tag it with a community string when it enters your core from access network and have a route map that prepends the AS path to prefer each group as necessary. Simples!
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Hi All,
Happy to announce the service is now in, there were a few unforeseen issues with Openreach's ducting but were resolved so that's the main thing.
To summarise, the installation had to be completed to a different CBT due to my duct going in another direction to the Openreach plans, however once it was finally found to go to a chamber in a different direction the cable was able to be puled through, the cable run was very substantial due to the unforeseen ducting, over 150M however the YouFibre team were able to get the cable in which ultimately led to the service being installed a few days later.
(I'm sure everyone here knows that plans are only as good as the person who put the data in my area it seems that both my neighbours don't have ducts on paper and all the cables come out of my UG feed, we found out there are 3 feeds and ducts so maps were updated).
The install itself was simple, as the cable was pre run, the engineer was able to drill out from the coms corner (where the Openreach FTTP, Virgin Media Cable service is) and install a Adtran XGSPON ONT, they are slightly bigger then the Openreach ONT's as I will attach in a picture later however not excessively large.
The engineer drilled in to out and used the appropriate cable and guide to cover the hole. The bring was not damaged which surprised me as every time I have drilled through have sprayed it so was impressed.
The engineer then spliced and fitted a Splice trey next to my Openreach Splice tray.
The router itself, I was given the option between the Eero and Aris, I was advised the Aris is better for IP configuration from web portal so opted for that, it also seems that it had extremely good WiFi speeds over in excess of 700Mbps up and down which for an ISP router is extremely impressive.
I hadn't tested Ethernet as I removed it in favour of mine.
I did remove the ISP provider router to use my own, I have a TP LINK OMADA ER7206V1 Gigabit router.
With Ethernet I get bang on 930+ Mbps down, the upload varies a bit as my CPU is a bit underpowered for this level of service.
To get the Router to work I set the WAN port to Dynamic IP and didn't bother with MAC Spoofing of the ISP router as it seems that the Adtran didn't require it for my static IP like other guides specify.
I then changed bandwidth control from 100Mbps to 940Mbps on the up and down and then all worked a treat.
Let me know if you have any questions and I will try and answer as soon as possible.
I will attach pictures later as I don't have any right now.
Many Thanks,
RR-THE-IT-GUY
YouFibre 1Gbps symmetric
IDNET 110X20
Talktalk 2014-2018 ADSL → Virgin Media Vivid 50 13/10/2018-2019 → Virgin Media M100 2020-05/2022 → Virgin Media M500 2022-05/10/2023 → IDNET 110x20 (FTTP) 20/11/2023 → YouFibre 1Gbps Symmetric with Static IP 2023-Current |
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I will attach pictures later as I don't have any right now.
Went out and took some pictures.
Internal ONT's
Netomnia XGSPON Adtran ONT
Openreach Adtran ONT
External Splice Tray
External Splice Tray Different Angle
Cable's Route
Netomnia Entrance (Top Right, Virgin Media bottom Left)
Openreach FTTP Entrance
Many Thanks,
RR-THE-IT-GUY
YouFibre 1Gbps symmetric
IDNET 110X20
Talktalk 2014-2018 ADSL → Virgin Media Vivid 50 13/10/2018-2019 → Virgin Media M100 2020-05/2022 → Virgin Media M500 2022-05/10/2023 → IDNET 110x20 (FTTP) 20/11/2023 → YouFibre 1Gbps Symmetric with Static IP 2023-Current
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Hi. I'm glad to hear that your install went well.
I have the Adtran XGSPON ONT with YouFibre as well as a static IP address.
I too have the Arris router but would like to use my Fritzbox to see how well it performs.
Am I likely able to try a different router without having to contact them with MAC addresses and suchlike?
Thank you.
Kroma
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Hi. I'm glad to hear that your install went well.
I have the Adtran XGSPON ONT with YouFibre as well as a static IP address.
I too have the Arris router but would like to use my Fritzbox to see how well it performs.
Am I likely able to try a different router without having to contact them with MAC addresses and suchlike?
Thank you.
Kroma
Hi There,
I didn't contact them at all for any MAC address changes, so it seemed to just work, my advise is plug it in on DHCP mode with IPv6 disabled (as I don't believe they support it yet unless I am mistaken) ande see what happens, I know anything over 500Mbps gets intense on the firewalls CPU's
My approach is try it and see what happens, if it brakes you can always put it back on the Arris.
Many Thanks,
RR-THE-IT-GUY
YouFibre 1Gbps symmetric
IDNET 110X20
Talktalk 2014-2018 ADSL → Virgin Media Vivid 50 13/10/2018-2019 → Virgin Media M100 2020-05/2022 → Virgin Media M500 2022-05/10/2023 → IDNET 110x20 (FTTP) 20/11/2023 → YouFibre 1Gbps Symmetric with Static IP 2023-Current
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Nice, glad it's all up and running.
Any chance you can share your BQM? Saw someone post one on twitter recently and it looked pretty poor, so just interested in seeing another Youfibre one given I'm going with them shortly.
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Nice, glad it's all up and running.
Any chance you can share your BQM? Saw someone post one on twitter recently and it looked pretty poor, so just interested in seeing another Youfibre one given I'm going with them shortly.
Hi, Both my BMQ's are in the signature below, some third party ones I also have are attached.
Let me know if you would like some samknows data etc and am happy to provide.
Edit
Want to re-emphasise that IDNet was failover and being canceled in under one month hence why no yellow peek spies.
I use YouFibre as the main connection, hence why there are spikes under load
Many Thanks,
RR-THE-IT-GUY
YouFibre 1Gbps symmetric
IDNET 110X20
Talktalk 2014-2018 ADSL → Virgin Media Vivid 50 13/10/2018-2019 → Virgin Media M100 2020-05/2022 → Virgin Media M500 2022-05/10/2023 → IDNET 110x20 (FTTP) 20/11/2023 → YouFibre 1Gbps Symmetric with Static IP 2023-Current Edited by RR_The_IT_Guy (Sun 29-Oct-23 14:17:48)
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I'm a pillock! Thanks 
[Edit]
Actually, what sort of load are you putting on it. Looks quite spiky.
My EE FTTP for comparison: https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/...
For me, it takes a large file download to cause a spike. Just streaming video/music or general web use does nothing. My pfsense box is a bit overpowered though!
Edited by Skie (Sun 29-Oct-23 15:29:28)
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I'm a pillock! Thanks
[Edit]
Actually, what sort of load are you putting on it. Looks quite spiky.
My EE FTTP for comparison: https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/...
For me, it takes a large file download to cause a spike. Just streaming video/music or general web use does nothing. My pfsense box is a bit overpowered though!
No worries
At the moment the bandwidth control does not work as expected due to my configuration so need to be reviewed, also ICMP is not prioritised on my firewall so its always like that hence why i'm not surprised.
I might set up the QOS properly, when i get a chance to see if that helps.
Some sustained periods of uploading recently in excess of 300Mbps and still flat.
Then there are some spikes of 150+Mbps when I log into devices for the initial device Sync up to various cloud systems and device management systems that re-download scripts and polices / updates on each startup (as its the only way I know how to deploy certain policies with the systems I use to patch the house)
I do have in excess of 40 devices that constantly use the network in some form or another, normally in sharp bursts. e.g. Samknows whitebox that does various testing, Web Server, Speedtest server (that is internet facing)
Here is the old IDNet connection under my use.
IDNET 20-10-2023
21-10-2023
22-10-2023
Let me know if you need anymore but it is all the same I have quite high usage so that's why there are spikes. I do also have a client to Site VPN which gets a lot of usage.
Many Thanks,
RR-THE-IT-GUY
YouFibre 1Gbps symmetric
IDNET 110X20
Talktalk 2014-2018 ADSL → Virgin Media Vivid 50 13/10/2018-2019 → Virgin Media M100 2020-05/2022 → Virgin Media M500 2022-05/10/2023 → IDNET 110x20 (FTTP) 20/11/2023 → YouFibre 1Gbps Symmetric with Static IP 2023-Current
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Let me know if you need anymore but it is all the same I have quite high usage so that's why there are spikes. I do also have a client to Site VPN which gets a lot of usage.
Thanks for all that, icmp priority/qos is probably the biggest culprit and compared to many BQMs it's decent anyway, nice low ping. I think with anything with such small margins it varies so much based on kit, usage etc that without trying it you never get a real idea. Youfibre are meant to be live in my neck of the woods in December, so I'll get to find out what it's like myself!
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Thanks for all that, icmp priority/qos is probably the biggest culprit and compared to many BQMs it's decent anyway, nice low ping. I think with anything with such small margins it varies so much based on kit, usage etc that without trying it you never get a real idea. Youfibre are meant to be live in my neck of the woods in December, so I'll get to find out what it's like myself!
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Absolutely, I know I don't throttle my network in any way unless the bandwidth usage is over 80% for extended periods and its obviously unlikely that I will be hitting 800Mbps sustained for more than seconds unless its some big update.
Many Thanks,
RR-THE-IT-GUY
YouFibre 1Gbps symmetric
IDNET 110X20
Talktalk 2014-2018 ADSL → Virgin Media Vivid 50 13/10/2018-2019 → Virgin Media M100 2020-05/2022 → Virgin Media M500 2022-05/10/2023 → IDNET 110x20 (FTTP) 20/11/2023 → YouFibre 1Gbps Symmetric with Static IP 2023-Current
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Just wanted to update this thread with my own YouFibre BQM now that they're live here.
Install was a bit painful, requiring 3 visits due to Openreach or Netomnia not listing the pole as requiring a cherry picker, but everyone involved was great and it was still done in the same (long) day. They're still tying service to the first MAC address they see and the installers wouldnt hook my kit up until they'd gotten screenshots of the Eero 6+ working, so I had to spoof its MAC (handy hint: spoof it then restart the ONT otherwise it won't play nice)
Live just after 6pm:
https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/...
Previous EE FTTP for comparison: https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/...
Not a whole lot in it, but the lack of PPPOE on YF is probably helping keep the jitter incredibly flat. 945/940 on speedtests, too for almost half the price of EE's 900/110 service!
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Just wanted to update this thread with my own YouFibre BQM now that they're live here.
Install was a bit painful, requiring 3 visits due to Openreach or Netomnia not listing the pole as requiring a cherry picker, but everyone involved was great and it was still done in the same (long) day. They're still tying service to the first MAC address they see and the installers wouldnt hook my kit up until they'd gotten screenshots of the Eero 6+ working, so I had to spoof its MAC (handy hint: spoof it then restart the ONT otherwise it won't play nice)
Live just after 6pm:
https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/...
Previous EE FTTP for comparison: https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/...
Not a whole lot in it, but the lack of PPPOE on YF is probably helping keep the jitter incredibly flat. 945/940 on speedtests, too for almost half the price of EE's 900/110 service!
It's interesting to read that you had to spoof it, I didn't need to do any MAC address spoofing and can just swap router without issue, do you know what ONT you got, I would have to look up which model mine is to be sure.
Many Thanks,
RR-THE-IT-GUY
YouFibre 1Gbps symmetric
Talktalk 2014-2018 ADSL → Virgin Media Vivid 50 13/10/2018-2019 → Virgin Media M100 2020-05/2022 → Virgin Media M500 2022-05/10/2023 → IDNET 110x20 (FTTP) 20/11/2023 → YouFibre 1Gbps Symmetric with Static IP 2023-Current
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Just wanted to update this thread with my own YouFibre BQM now that they're live here.
Install was a bit painful, requiring 3 visits due to Openreach or Netomnia not listing the pole as requiring a cherry picker, but everyone involved was great and it was still done in the same (long) day. They're still tying service to the first MAC address they see and the installers wouldnt hook my kit up until they'd gotten screenshots of the Eero 6+ working, so I had to spoof its MAC (handy hint: spoof it then restart the ONT otherwise it won't play nice)
Live just after 6pm:
https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/...
Previous EE FTTP for comparison: https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/...
Not a whole lot in it, but the lack of PPPOE on YF is probably helping keep the jitter incredibly flat. 945/940 on speedtests, too for almost half the price of EE's 900/110 service!
It's interesting to read that you had to spoof it, I didn't need to do any MAC address spoofing and can just swap router without issue, do you know what ONT you got, I would have to look up which model mine is to be sure.
Yeah the spoofing would have to be done if there were a live DHCP lease. The leases are now an hour so not too long to wait regardless. Nothing to do with the ONT this one, all about the OLT and whether the exchange had been migrated to the new network. If it hadn't the DHCP leases were a lot longer back then.
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Yeah the spoofing would have to be done if there were a live DHCP lease. The leases are now an hour so not too long to wait regardless. Nothing to do with the ONT this one, all about the OLT and whether the exchange had been migrated to the new network. If it hadn't the DHCP leases were a lot longer back then.
Ah OK, I know I am in one of their "new build" areas so it is likely why, I'm currently working with Seb in another thread to investigate some odd behaviour on the upload speeds.
Many Thanks,
RR-THE-IT-GUY
YouFibre 1Gbps symmetric
Talktalk 2014-2018 ADSL → Virgin Media Vivid 50 13/10/2018-2019 → Virgin Media M100 2020-05/2022 → Virgin Media M500 2022-05/10/2023 → IDNET 110x20 (FTTP) 20/11/2023 → YouFibre 1Gbps Symmetric with Static IP 2023-Current
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