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Standard User jeggsy
(newbie) Mon 30-Jul-07 21:01:21
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Line stat question


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Hi all...

Currently on a fixed 2Mb package from Orange but seriously looking at jumping to another ISP.

My line stats from my Livebox are as follows:-

Noise Margin - 30.0 db
Attenuation - 22.0db

Are these figures any good ??? Would they be OK if I move to an 8Mb ADSL Max package ??? What sort of speed roughly could I expect ???


Many thanks
Paul
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 30-Jul-07 21:17:51
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if I move to an 8Mb ADSL Max package ??? What sort of speed roughly could I expect ???
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Should get the full 8meg.


Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 30-Jul-07 21:19:45
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LLU providers such as Sky and Be should give you the best download speeds, biggest caps or no caps at all - no throttling - and at the lowest cost. So it would be wise to actually check what ADSL services you can get first before parting with any cash.

Use the link I have put below and it will tell you exactly what ADSL services you can get by just putting in your post code or phone number (i.e. it may say "Sky LLU" or "Be LLU" - that means you can use Sky or Be and they are an LLU service).

Link to ADSL services checker.

Using ISPs such as Sky or Be will give you more bang for your bucks - plus someone like Sky will give you a "deal" of their TV channels - free phone calls - and your broadband connection from


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 30-Jul-07 22:41:04
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Re: Line stat question


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Put your figures in here (2272 sync, 22 attenuation, 30 margin)

http://www2.farina1.com/ADSL/default.aspx

to get ADSL and ADSL2+ estimates.
Standard User RobertoS
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 30-Jul-07 23:52:07
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Jump!

But where?

What sort of downloading and uploading? The more accurate the figures you can give the better.
Gaming - need high pings?
Most downloads 9am-10pm , or 10pm - 9am? When?
Budget - preferred, expected , absolute maximum?
Newsgroups?
Web space?

Re the above - what is your primary requirement of your internet connection?

Try putting your phone no. into www.samknows.com, see what LLU suppliers are available. Ignore Tiscali. Talk Talk are dodgy but improving. Tell us which are reported as available.



Bob - Newnet Lite, ex Prodigynet. Purple Cloud for domain reg and email.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 31-Jul-07 00:44:51
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On the older "clunky" technology of IPStream you would get close to 8Mbps.

With an LLU provider and those stats you could get up to 21Mbps at the same or lower price than 8Mbps would cost you using IPStream providers.

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Standard User jeggsy
(newbie) Tue 31-Jul-07 07:46:34
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Cheers all for the replies.

Already looked on Samknows site and there is no LLU's of any kind on my exchange and also no cable packages in my area so a Max package is about it for me.

I have been looking at ADSL24 as an ISP. Anybody have any comments on them ??

The main thing is I get a reliable connection as I use it a lot for VPN into work. The rest of the time is just normal browsing with a bit of P2P downloads.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 31-Jul-07 08:38:30
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All of the Entanet resellers (of which ADSL24 is one) have a good reputation, they all use the same underlying product.
Standard User adebov
(knowledge is power) Tue 31-Jul-07 17:28:25
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Yup, providing you don't mind the odd speed reduction during busy times (sometimes down to around 2-3Mbps, but generally only between 10pm to midnight, and weekend afternoons - when a lot of mass-downloading takes place, and Entanet take measures to protect pings and packet loss, by reducing speeds), Entanet resellers provide the best high usage non-LLU product around.
A typical Entanet package would give 30GB peak (8am - 10pm weekdays), plus 300GB off-peak usage, for

Ade

Giving UKFSN/Entanet a try - 1 year and counting!
DL Sync 4000kbps
UL Sync 448
Standard User Fluff
(member) Wed 01-Aug-07 03:17:25
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ADSL24 are great

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ADSL24 Office 45 8128/832

Download Speed: 6944 kbps (868 KB/sec) Upload Speed: 706 kbps (88.3 KB/sec)
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 01-Aug-07 05:52:27
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Would i get a faster speed going with Bulldog LLU then rather than being on IPStream with BT, i'm getting around 3.5Mb right now?.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 01-Aug-07 14:04:48
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It is most likely you would get much better speeds with an LLU provider. Plus of course you would probably not be throttled and also you would get high download allowances - or no restrictions on downloads at all.

To see what speeds you could get on LLU - use Mr Saffron's calculator here and see what the ADSL2+ speeds are.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 01-Aug-07 14:13:18
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As far as I am aware the LLU providers have no equivalent to the BT IP profile so you should be able to download as fast as your sync speed allows.

I'd guess some LLU operators, Be for instance, have relatively few subscribers for their capacity, and can afford to be practically unlimited at the moment.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 01-Aug-07 17:10:49
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Yeah it says i could get a bit higher with LLU but i'm not sure if the little bit of extra speed is worth it as i've heard Bulldog (My only LLU provider) arn't that good when it comes to billing and customer services, the service itself though is suppose to be rock solid.
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