Firefox 13

I'm loving this new version.

Post deleted by BatBoy

That link leads to Firefox 12.0.

Well, I just tried it again and it's FF13 as advertised

Correct link would be http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/beta/?WT.mc_id=...

It's still beta though and I've had many problems with firefox, so much so that I mainly use chrome now.

13 for me.

No, it's not beta. It's the live release.

Lol I didn't even check the link just assumed john2007 was correct.

I don't doubt that. However though the url is www.mozilla.org/en-US/products/download.html?product=firefox-13.0&os=win&lang=en-US for me it leads to a page offering Firefox 12.

For me that pops up a box saying "Firefox Setup 13.0.exe"

I thought it was because I'm not using Windows. Changed my headers to pretend I was on a Windows machine but I still land on Firefox 12.0.

What's good about it, batboy?

Simpler. I get offered 13.0 exe for download if I enable JavaScript.

I'm suspicious of that link... it also takes me to Firefox Setup 13.0.exe, but an exe file is not a great deal of use on a Mac. It also assumes I'm in the US.

Previously Mozilla have always offered me the Mac version of FF and know I'm in Europe... and if it can detect if Javascript is enabled it should be able to work out which OS being used, the main page does.

Maybe I'm just being more paranoid than usual, but I'd suggest anyone using Windows takes care before downloading it.

Edited by billford (Tue 05-Jun-12 10:27:34)

Still version 12 on the website.

In reply to a post by 5km:

Correct link would be http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/beta/?WT.mc_id=...

It's still beta though and I've had many problems with firefox, so much so that I mainly use chrome now.

Me to, well a chrome clone.

the problem I have is why is there no 64 bit version of chromium? There is not really a official 64 bit version of Firefox, only clones, like Palemoon.

64bit machines have been around for a while now and with vista and windows 7 having 64 bit versions, is it not about time 64bit was supported more from the browsers producers?

No excuse about plugins not working, there is a 64bit flash and Java and when I tried Palemoon 64 bit all the plugins I wanted to use would work.

The link itself is clean but I get no download offered. Attacking it from the home page I get offered v12 from "mirror.nl.leaseweb.net".

It was the same for me until I enabled JavaScript.

In reply to a post by Deadbeat:

The link itself is clean

Agreed, but did Mozilla put that page there or did somebody else? The lack of OS detection isn't like Mozilla...

but I get no download offered.

Is Javascript enabled, as John found earlier?

Attacking it from the home page I get offered v12 from "mirror.nl.leaseweb.net".

Ditto, for multiple languages ond OS's. That's what makes me wonder if it's a genuine Mozilla page- no link to it or even mention of it. Too many inconsistencies for my liking

Edited by billford (Tue 05-Jun-12 10:51:48)

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The lack of OS detection isn't like Mozilla...

This being a windows forum should be a clue.

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

In reply to a post by billford:

The lack of OS detection isn't like Mozilla...

This being a windows forum should be a clue.

Possibly, for the gullible. I doubt if Mozilla would take more notice of the referrer link than of the OS in the request header.

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In reply to a post by BatBoy:

In reply to a post by billford:

The lack of OS detection isn't like Mozilla...

This being a windows forum should be a clue.

Possibly, for the gullible. I doubt if Mozilla would take more notice of the referrer link than of the OS in the request header.

Obviously too hard for MAC users. Anyway, I'm sure it will be on the Moz homepage later on today.

In reply to a post by billford:

Is Javascript enabled, as John found earlier?

Yup...... And no other similar Java related links are affected.

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

Anyway, I'm sure it will be on the Moz homepage later on today.

Possibly, a bit of Googling indicates that FF13 is real enough, but I'm still not happy about that particular page:

In reference to www.downloadcrew.com/article/24333-firefox:

Operating Systems: Linux, Mac OS X, Windows 2000, Windows 7 (32 bit), Windows 7 (64 bit), Windows Vista (32 bit), Windows Vista (64 bit), Windows XP

My bold.


eta- I see you've deleted your link... 5km's post takes me to a page that correctly identifies my OS, I'm happier with that one.

Edited by billford (Tue 05-Jun-12 11:15:03)

I'm not willing to get into a discussion about how the web works but the presence of "&os=win&" in the URL indicates to me that it will download the Windows version, nothing else, regardless of whatever OS originates the request.

To be fair, this is the Windows forum and BatBoy linked to the Windows download.

There appear to be some links to other operating systems version here, but they may be spoof sites http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/04/firefox_13/

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

the presence of "&os=win&" in the URL indicates to me that it will download the Windows version, nothing else, regardless of whatever OS originates the request.

Fair enough, I hadn't spotted that, good to see you being as helpful as ever. (My address bar doesn't show the full URL, only the "site" part, unless I deliberately expand it and I hadn't- my bad )

OK, so I was being more paranoid than usual, but better that way than excessively trustful

No worries, anyway the Reg article was updated to say it's still in testing, so probably best not to download it at the moment.

I might give it a try when it's properly released... I've always found FF to be rather "clunky" and lacking in facilities that I like^* compared to Opera (cba'd with add-ons, sorry Mick ).

Maybe this one will be better.


^* the emphasis is on "I", others have their own preferences of course.

I got it from the Filehippo Software Update utility.

Seems a tad better than 12 to be honest.

I rarely use Chrome myself - always been a Firefox guy - but it all about personal preference

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This being a windows forum should be a clue.

Possibly, for the gullible. I doubt if Mozilla would take more notice of the referrer link than of the OS in the request header.

Obviously too hard for MAC users. Anyway, I'm sure it will be on the Moz homepage later on today.

http://www.getfirefox.com

Firefox 13 is now being offered as an update!

Smooth scrolling is not for me!

I quite like smooth scrolling.

When opening a new tab do you get 9 thumbnails - I just get blank ones

I get www.google.co.uk (my default tab setting).

Ahh, I see. No, I'm still using FF5. Waiting for the FF13 reviews to get going before jumping in.

Edited by camieabz (Tue 05-Jun-12 20:36:15)

What you�ll see on the New Tab page of Firefox 13 are your most-visited sites displayed with large thumbnails, reducing the time it takes to type or navigate to these pages. This data comes directly from your browsing history: it�s the same information that helps Firefox�s Awesome Bar give suggestions when you type. Or, if you want to go somewhere new, the URL bar is still targeted when you type on a New Tab page. If you want to hide your top sites � permanently or temporarily � a grid icon in the top right wipes the new tab screen to blank.

I realise that but in my case they are blank squares - goes away to check my history settings
Seems to be a general problem http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/926742

Edited by deleted (Tue 05-Jun-12 20:52:43)

There's also the product=firefox-13.0&os=win&lang=en-US overriding location/language autodetection thus explaining both oddities

Thanks, this sounds plausible -

The thumbnails on the about:newtab page are generated from the cache, so if the page is not in the cache or otherwise can't be rendered as a PNG image then you will get an empty box.
Do not use Clear Recent History to clear data when you close Firefox.
If there is no history then you get an about:newtab page with empty boxes.

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

I'm loving this new version.

I've got it - but Littlefox is not compatible, which I miss. I like the toolbars etc all minimised

You mean this? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/littl...

In reply to a post by BatBoy:

You mean this? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/littl...

Thanks

In reply to a post by billford:

I might give it a try when it's properly released... I've always found FF to be rather "clunky" and lacking in facilities that I like^* compared to Opera (cba'd with add-ons, sorry Mick ).

Maybe this one will be better.


^* the emphasis is on "I", others have their own preferences of course.

Ff used to be good up to around version 3, then after that it went belly up, version 4 was awful and that is why I decided to change browsers, i did try each new version of FF until they got to version 7 then I just got fed up the constant revisions and nothing changed.

FF takes ages to start upo, and seemed to get slower not faster, sure it may change with version 13, but it is too late now.

As for opera, never could get on with it, i wonder what facebook will do with it once they get hold of it? No doubt they will change it so facebook is incorporated in it.

10.0.5.esr out also

Dont like it one bit ive had problems with previous versions of firefox and plugin crashes and its still not been sorted out, im going to try chrome,

That's the one I'm using after upgrading from 3.6.

All my add ons work (after updating or using a similar one).
Tried 13, and found some of them didn't work.
CBA of going though same problems every 6 weeks.

So sticking to 10 until the next extended version comes out.