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Standard User time2die
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 15-Jan-14 15:32:49
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Great Value and underrated

For those doubters and the ones than more than likely subscribe to a Xbox live service with not even half the content ......wink

How can so many complain about £40 a year and what you get,I agree the download speeds and constant updates and installing issues are a pain in the backside on the Playstation 3 store,but on a Playstation 4 these don't occur and in my opinion it's now faster than the Xbox Live Store and I'm taking Xbox One.
Standard User astateoftrance
(experienced) Wed 15-Jan-14 16:16:54
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It is exceptional value for money I can't believe how much you get for £39.99 a year. It really suits me also as I do not buy many games at or around release so most of them are games I have not played.

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Standard User time2die
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 15-Jan-14 16:57:24
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And thats another reason why its good value even better for you than for myself because as you know by the time the majority of those games come free to Playstation plus subscribers old Timey here has done that been there and got the tea shirt wink and traded them in i might add tongue


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Standard User mrnelster
(knowledge is power) Wed 15-Jan-14 18:49:21
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I turned on the PS4 last night and there were three updates queued up. BF4, Killzone and Contrast. They all started downloading together at a rate of around 50Mbps. The BF; update was 600 odd MB and came down in a little over 90 seconds. Never managed those sort of download speeds on the PS3.

It installed in a similar amount of time. Love it. smile
Standard User time2die
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 16-Jan-14 01:25:54
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Agreed matey wink

Its a joy compared to the playstation 3 store and service.cool
Standard User jorkila
(committed) Thu 16-Jan-14 10:08:19
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Agreed, I had it when i had my ps3 and a far better value than xbox live!!
Don't get me wrong as far as the online game playing experience go's the 360's live service is a hands down better experience than psn on the ps3!!
Standard User time2die
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 16-Jan-14 11:50:35
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Agreed but i think now with the Playstation 4 Sony has got its act together and its a much better smoother experience.wink
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Thu 16-Jan-14 14:38:49
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what happens if none of the games in the list are wanted tho?

Out of that list I think I would play 2 of those games.

To clear something up as I am a bit confused.

If I signed up to psn today would I get all those games?

If I get a game this month is there a time limit to play or is it mine for life?

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Standard User time2die
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 16-Jan-14 14:57:50
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Nope you can download what you like�wink as long as your a Playstation plus subscriber and the games on the store are still freebies smile

Not everything is free to playstation plus subscribers but there are a hell of a lot of games that are,also when some are payed content there are usually discounts in place for plus subscribers.

You also asked me a Nintendo Wii U question Saturday which i answered and yet you seem to have totally ignored the thread and topic you started even though the post header has my name on it as a question ?

May be you just forgot you had wrote it and asked a question ?

This One wink

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Standard User astateoftrance
(experienced) Thu 16-Jan-14 16:40:59
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In reply to a post by Chrysalis:
what happens if none of the games in the list are wanted tho?

Out of that list I think I would play 2 of those games.


For most gamers there would be many games they would like provided they have not already played them.

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:
To clear something up as I am a bit confused.

If I signed up to psn today would I get all those games?

If I get a game this month is there a time limit to play or is it mine for life?


No you would not get all those games. I think that is a list of games that have been on PS+ during the last year. It is also from the US so not the same as Europe.

At the moment there are 14 games available on PS+, those are for the PS3/Vita/PS4. About 5 of them are changed for new ones every month so you would need to download them before the month ends. The others stay there for a whole year. Once you download them they are yours to keep for as long as you subscribe to PS+.
Standard User time2die
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 16-Jan-14 17:02:10
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I generally download everything thats available then decide later if to keep them or not,there is plenty of content on there worth downloading.

Personally i thought that if i visited the store this evening i could download every little bit of Playstation plus stuff that was on there and i have.

I understand what Trance is saying that games generally do disappear of the site from time to time or get replaced and then they become a paid item.

But as far as I'm aware if there is 30 games listed under the playstation plus stuff then you can download the lot.
Standard User astateoftrance
(experienced) Thu 16-Jan-14 17:12:22
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Yeah you can download whatever is in the Instant game collection with currently is... DMC, Borderlands 2, Soul Sacrifice, Bazeblue, Don't Starve, Resogun, Guacamelee, Remember Me, UC3, LBP Karting, XCOM, Liberty City Stories, UC: Golden Abyss, Gravity Rush.

So at the end of the month 4/5 of them will be removed and replaced with new ones.


Example from last month -

Leaving PS Plus:
24th December: Grid 2
24th December: Dragons Dogma Dark Arisen
24th December: Sonic and Allstars Racing Transformed
8th January: Contrast

Entering PS Plus:
24th December: DmC Devil May Cry
24th December: Borderlands 2
24th December: Soul Sacrifice
24th December: Blazblue Continuum Shift Extend
8th January: Don�t Starve

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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Thu 16-Jan-14 17:46:32
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yeah I read it, you answered my question and I had no further comment. smile

so the freebies dont stay free they are for timed periods?

Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Thu 16-Jan-14 17:48:40
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ok it clears that up then.

do games ever become free a 2nd time after been paid again?

or is it the case if someone has missed a free game its gone forever?

Standard User astateoftrance
(experienced) Thu 16-Jan-14 18:17:26
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In reply to a post by Chrysalis:
yeah I read it, you answered my question and I had no further comment. smile

so the freebies dont stay free they are for timed periods?


Yes but if you download them you can keep them for as long as you subscribe. I think that even if you stop subscribing they will still be available if you then start again at a later date.
Standard User astateoftrance
(experienced) Thu 16-Jan-14 18:19:10
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I don't think they would have the same game twice as people who already had it would complain.
Standard User time2die
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 16-Jan-14 19:09:10
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Good bit of research and information on your part there trance wink
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(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 16-Jan-14 19:11:25
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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Fri 17-Jan-14 06:12:00
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ok thanks for the info but this can be a bad thing.

lets say I was interested in half the list, would I sign up knowing none of those games are ever going to be free download because they have already been done?

I rechecked the list and I was initially harsh, its more than a few I would be interested in. It is good its for life (as long as stay subscribed), but its also only for life if dont need to redownload it? so if something like a hdd failure is a problem. Or does it flag it was downloaded so the right to redownload stays on as long as subscribed?

This list will grow and grow and if its a cert they never going to do the same game twice it will eventually make it less attractive to new customers (but I agree better for older customers).

Standard User time2die
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 17-Jan-14 07:23:07
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Right.

You become a Playstation plus subscriber and download what you want when you want,once downloaded its in your purchase list so if you delete the game or it becomes a payed item in the future you can still download the game if you have deleted it at no extra cost.

It keeps a record of your purchase history so if you wiped the hard drive sold it and bought another you just login with your account details email/password and go to accounts history and download all your content again.

Just like if i went and bought a Playstation 3 today,then logged into my account i could spend the next week downloading all my stuff from over the years providing i had a 4TB hard drive
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Fri 17-Jan-14 07:32:22
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bioshock infinite is on the usa psn+ now, I want that game.

but according to that list its already been done for the uk frown

according to this its next week http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/2000401-playstation-3...

so seems they do relist?

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Standard User time2die
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 17-Jan-14 07:45:30
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The Us Store and European store have slightly different content and different update days,like America is Tuesday and Europe is Wednesdays.

There is a way of making a few accounts but I'm not sure what payed services now work for a a Us Account,its easy to make up some American address with a Zip Code but the problem normally is the credit card has to resign in the United States.

originally when i had 3 accounts ,Japan,US and Europe you could add funds by various methods,i don't have all the accounts now and so i am not sure how they work or if they are still possible.

Plenty of Google stuff and YouTube videos to show you how ?
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Fri 17-Jan-14 08:29:18
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not going to bother with all that, this regional stuff is annoying, both sony and microsoft having different content for different regions.

if bioshock infinite shows up I will give psn+ a go otherwise I'll leave it.

of course the way the value is calculated is a bit misleading. eg. on bioshock infinite is £40 on psn to buy or its £17 from amazon.

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(deleted) Fri 17-Jan-14 09:12:52
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I always use psn cards when buying stuff on the playstation. You never know they might get hacked
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Fri 17-Jan-14 09:18:30
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ok I finally found a uk news site on psn+ (the vast majoprity only report on USA).

According to this site its coming in feb.

http://www.n3rdabl3.co.uk/2014/01/ps-plus-subscriber...

Standard User time2die
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 17-Jan-14 12:09:13
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Thought it was going to be free to Playstation plus subscribers so I'm not entirely sure what you going on about,why would you pay £4o for a single game which is the cost of a whole years subscription of Playstation Plus and many games wink
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Fri 17-Jan-14 14:33:02
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What I mean is on that article when that guy said about value for money he only used PSN prices and not retail. so its not necessarily a no brainer as he made it out to be, if someone wanted eg. 4 games or less on his list and could get them at £20 or less at retail then the psn+ costs more money plus the retail copies are owned forever without needing to keep paying in. But of course if someone wants many of those games then psn+ turns out quite good value. Certianly psn+ works out a cheap way to try games as many of those games I wouldnt be buying retail for sure as I dont have confidence without a playable demo if they good enough.

Anyway I have been downloading games for most of the day as I signed up and will grab bioshock infinite in february.

Unchartered 3 a 40 gig game.

Standard User time2die
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 17-Jan-14 15:18:00
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Yep but Uncharted 3 is one of those rare masterpieces that don't come around to often,so what size is your hard drive on your Playstation 3 then ,and is this a console you always owned or a recent purchase.

My Nintendo Wii Zelda Skyward Sword arrived along with a Wii Remote Duel charger ,all if need now is the Wii Remote that haven't arrived.blush

Fancy that? Timey getting excited about previous Nintendo Wii games, and games and accessories I have owned time and time again.....what a Doh Ball I am tongue

My last Wii I traded I got a Tenner for at blockbusters,I haven't bought another one just Wii games that play on a Wii U wink
Standard User time2die
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 17-Jan-14 15:20:07
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So you took the plunge and subscribed to Playstation plus then....blush
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Fri 17-Jan-14 16:54:15
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ahh so you gone the BC route same as me then smile let me know how the game goes. I hope there is a new zelda game coming for the wii-u that isnt a hd remake.

This ps3 I got of ebay used about a year or so ago cannot remember exact date now, might have been longer. Maybe 18 months as I think it was summer I got it.

It was the fat 60 gig model, the hdd it came with was turtle slow tho so swapped it with my old laptop hdd which was 120 gig and used that for a while, then you may remember I posted 2-3 weeks back about the psn sale and ordered a load of games of it, that triggered me to buy a 500gig hdd which is what is in there now. When this is downloaded the hdd will be just over half full I think.

Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Fri 17-Jan-14 16:54:52
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yep. subbed to it for a year so lets see how it goes.

Standard User time2die
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 17-Jan-14 17:30:11
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Zelda Hyrule Warriers is out sometime this year which is a Zelda game but not in the same style,plus Nintendo also have a new Zelda been made for the Wii U but little to no information is available at present which is typical Nintendo and there stubborn attitude.

Been reading a lot of stuff about the state of Nintendo and the dire situation and prediction of sales forcast of the Nintendo Wii U.

Lot of people are calling for the head to resign after they predicted the Wiii U would sell 9 million consoles now adjusted to under 2 for this year after very poor performance especially since Xbox One And Playstation 4 came out.

It needs games and support which are slowly coming but way way to slow,there structure is appalling and there methods madness.

They released a fantastic game 13 months after they should have in the form of Mario 3D,but not only that they shipped it on the same day the Playstation 4 was released .

Nintendo have bags of money courtesy of there success with the original Wii,but if they continue to not look at the facts and figures and what Gamers want then they will end up like Sega and will make games and not consoles...

I say all this even though I am loving playing on my Wii U,but 13 months ago I didn't and wouldn't have bought it for £50 nevermind £299 the launch price .
Standard User astateoftrance
(experienced) Fri 17-Jan-14 19:57:49
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As Timey said.

Also you do not need to fully download the game for it to show as purchased/downloaded. All you need to do is start the download and then cancel it. I do this for most of the content on PS+ so I can download it at any time in the future if I want.
Standard User astateoftrance
(experienced) Fri 17-Jan-14 20:01:52
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The rumour is for Bioshock Infinite which is quite likely as the US has already had it but check the PlayStation EU blog next week for the official announcement of February content.
Standard User astateoftrance
(experienced) Fri 17-Jan-14 20:04:04
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The big problem I think is that Nintendo are going after the casual/kids gaming market which has largely moved to tablet gaming.
Standard User time2die
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 18-Jan-14 01:25:25
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They have always had this Kiddie attitude towards gaming and seem to cater for the younger market thats very true Trance,but when they make games they make fantastic games and some of the greatest ever scoring games are made by Nintendo wink
Standard User astateoftrance
(experienced) Sat 18-Jan-14 09:36:40
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They should definitely keep making those games but also attack the hardcore gamer market and compete with Sony and Microsoft.

What I said about tablets being the main kiddie/casual market is not quite right as the Nintendo DS is a huge success. Maybe if you have the handheld then there is not much reason to get a full console, for children anyway.
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Sat 18-Jan-14 16:50:44
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yeah I noticed at the start it activates the licence before downloading.

But I let them all download as I have the hdd space currently.

Edited by Chrysalis (Sat 18-Jan-14 16:55:28)

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(legend) Sat 18-Jan-14 16:54:29
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nintendo are making too many mistakes in my opinion.

There has been tons of good zelda games made for portables and I see no reason why these cant be on the virtual console, other than lazyness.

Indeed nintendo even said over a year ago all the game boy advanced/colour games are coming to the virtual console yet they still nowhere to be seen.

A very quick way to shift wii-u units is get virtual console maxed out (currently seems half hearted) and get all the 3ds games playable on it. (the ones that work on the 2ds).

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Standard User time2die
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 18-Jan-14 19:47:28
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If they can put Wind Waker in HD on the Wii U then they could bring all the Zelda games on the Wii u plus games like Mario Sunshine and the Metroid Prime games and a whole host of games from the Nintendo back catalogue .

I would rarther see new IPs and brand new Zelda games but some of there previous classics would not be a bad thing.
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Sun 19-Jan-14 06:12:17
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new IPs are good but they take longer to do.

They can do both in my opinion.

Looking at nintendo's history the amount of zelda games per gen, its fair to say so far the wii-u has been hard done by, I suspect less effort was put into the wii-u they were riding on the back of the wii's success assuming they would have 3rd party support climbing all over it.

When I say back catalogue I dont mean hd remakes, I mean just emulated in their native graphics, possibly upscaled with anti aliasing.

Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Mon 20-Jan-14 16:55:06
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In reply to a post by time2die:
If they can put Wind Waker in HD on the Wii U then they could bring all the Zelda games on the Wii u plus games like Mario Sunshine and the Metroid Prime games and a whole host of games from the Nintendo back catalogue .

I would rarther see new IPs and brand new Zelda games but some of there previous classics would not be a bad thing.


I seen some clips of the proper wii-u zelda game and it does look pretty good indeed. due this year.

Standard User time2die
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 20-Jan-14 17:05:53
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Im playing Skyward Sword at present which is only 2 years old but is brilliant,its not in HD though and the 10 year old Wind Waker looks miles better but skyward sword is possibly the best Zelda game ever.
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(legend) Tue 21-Jan-14 09:19:16
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thanks, shame nintendo games never seem to drop in price. --edit-- found the normal one for £20 still a bit high for an old game but ordered, and the nunchuck.

How much did you get it for?

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Standard User time2die
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 21-Jan-14 09:49:54
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got it of ebay for 15.99 wink brand new and wrapped.
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(legend) Tue 21-Jan-14 09:50:22
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yeah that sound better.

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(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 21-Jan-14 09:55:22
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Asking £35 for a 2 year old Wii game is stupid and foolish blush
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Yawn!

laugh
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(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 21-Jan-14 19:23:50
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Yawn of yourself tongue
Standard User time2die
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 21-Jan-14 19:25:24
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Yep that's generally PC Gamers like yourself,but welcome to the world of console gaming only 7 years later than everyone else blush
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(knowledge is power) Wed 22-Jan-14 19:52:52
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In reply to a post by Chrysalis:
bioshock infinite is on the usa psn+ now, I want that game.

but according to that list its already been done for the uk frown

according to this its next week http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/2000401-playstation-3...

so seems they do relist?

You might be interested.
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Thought I'd wait for prices to come down a bit. Did I miss anything then? winktongue

Zavvi contacted me today to inform me they were cancelling the order I placed with them for an in-stock copy of The Last of Us priced at reasonable £23.99 back on 9th January so I need to find someplace else that's selling it cheap. Damn them.

They're saying it's not in stock, not coming into stock. What they mean of course, is highly likely that they don't want to sell it at that price/can't sell it at that price. Why offer it at that price in the first place then?

frown

I shall have to turn to google and search again. It's feckin' annoying really. Could get it from Play Asia I think. But it might take a few weeks to get here from Japan. crazy
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(committed) Thu 23-Jan-14 14:12:22
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The Last Of Us @play .com Spook!
Standard User time2die
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 23-Jan-14 14:35:26
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I have little to no sympathy for people prepared to wait weeks for the sake of a couple of quid,there was very little in the way of much difference for that game and you could have got that next day delivery from many places.

You must be one of the very few Spook that would even consider a place like Zavi in the first place,besides what they done after basically 3 weeks is a complete smack in the face and they personally don't deserve your custom or anyone's else for that matter and I'm not surprised they nearly went under a few years back
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Thank Mr Killa! tongue

Yeah, I will reply to Timey but essentially I'm too tight and lazy. Been too busy... tongue
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I'm just tight mate. I like to pay what I consider to be a fair price for a game in the circumstances and yeah, I guess I am a bit of a cheapskate.

I don't like ordering stuff from anyone and then being told a few weeks later they can't fulfill the original request. I'll wait, as I've said before, I'm patient and can wait weeks or months for something.

It's a shame and has happened before when I ordered something somewhere else. I placed an order for an in-stock item at a good price, then they kept emailing every few days saying the item wasn't available. Then 2 weeks or so later, they had to cancel. Only then, in the next few days the item came back into stock at a much higher price. So this is what I'm expecting to happen in this instance. I don't think Zavvi was the place that did this to me last time but I can't remember who it was.

Zavvi did go under as a brand/retail shop. They're owned by The Hut group or something and they used to own this Send It company or something I used to use for DVDs and games in the past. They were ok. I used to use CD Wow too on occasion if they were cheapest. It's not easy in the retail world I guess, bottom-line is usually the differentiator. Anyway... I digress.
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(experienced) Thu 23-Jan-14 18:31:59
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Here we are, the rumours were correct smile -

Entering PS Plus:
29th January: Metro Last Light
29th January: BioShock Infinite
29th January: Dynasty Warriors Next
29th January: ModNation Racers: Road Trip
5th February: Outlast


Leaving PS Plus:
29th January: DmC Devil May Cry
29th January: Remember Me
29th January: Soul Sacrifice
29th January: Blazblue Continuum Shift Extend
29th January: GTA Liberty City Stories PSP
5th February: Don�t Starve
5th February: RESOGUN
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(experienced) Thu 23-Jan-14 18:42:08
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I have used Zavvi a few times and had no problems, that is unacceptable the way they have treated Spook though.
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Retailers get one chance with me and when he ordered that game it did not say it wasn't in stock and i guess Spook would have expected that game a couple of days later,now nearly 3 weeks on he gets a email saying not got it in stock and not getting any��.What a Joke place that is tongue
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(legend) Thu 23-Jan-14 19:49:58
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anyone know why play.com always seems to have games that are either unavailable elsewhere or usually much cheaper? whats the catch?

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Well yeah, it was like that when I ordered at Zavvi as places like Game and even Amazon (I think) were out of stock then too.

Like Timey says, Zavvi haven't exactly played this straight, leaving it so long then cancelling. I don't really care too much but I'm a bit miffed that a game as old as TLOU is still £30+ at most places when other much newer AAA titles can be had much cheaper.

When a game breaks even and then makes a load of cash profit I think it should be expected for it to go down in price. It's no wonder the movie industry looks upon the gaming biz with envious eyes.

I still need to re-order. GTA5 and RDR were easy peasy orders and I got good prices on both of 'em. Play.com looks like the best bet... gotta go look again. smile
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Cheers again mate. I even saved another quid or so from Bargain Games' eBay shop!

Order placed!

tonguelaugh

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Play.com is just a marketplace for third party sellers, their is no direct to consumer sales hence the different prices and availability of stock.
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(legend) Fri 24-Jan-14 09:35:40
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yep and the fact its 3rd party sellers is why I am suspicous.

Does a small 3rd party seller have the buying power and clout to get the products much cheaper than someone like amazon? probably not, so something doesnt add up.

ebay is the biggest platform for independent sellers so why are these guys selling on play.com and not ebay?

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(experienced) Fri 24-Jan-14 09:55:12
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Well they could be selling on Ebay, Amazon, Play and other places to maximise their sales. I don't see anything suspicious and I haven't often found play to be all that cheap for games either.

As with all online purchases its best to pay by credit card so if there are any problems you can call your card company and get them to deal with it.
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(legend) Fri 24-Jan-14 11:48:46
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if they are selling on ebay then they not at the same price.

my theory is they using play because ebay uses paypal which favours the buyer in disputes.

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Well, I didn't make it clear but:

In reply to a post by SPOOKish:
Cheers again mate. I even saved another quid or so from Bargain Games' eBay shop!


Bargain Games were one of the cheapest suppliers on Play.com and also had an eBay store, so it's quite likely they do business through Amazon also. If you were to browse their game sales catalogue you might rethink what you believe about them offering games far below what other larger companies sell at.

£25 for TLOU compared to £30 from Amazon say, isn't exactly eyebrow raising. It's cheaper but it doesn't raise suspicions. Figuring out cost of goods isn't easy as it doesn't always follow a simple logic of what we might think of as 'supply and demand' and scale of economies. In the media market, games, music, film etc, it's anyone's guess how it all operates.

Looking back to the late 80s era, the cost of vinyl singles rose to some £4.50 odd or more I recall. If you factored in inflation and wage parity you'd be shocked to see what we paid and all the while the music industry were sucking up big bucks. So, obviously the price we pay doesn't really have to follow on from what we feel is simple demand and supply economics. I'd love to know how profitable it was working in the media industry but obviously there are big risks for game (and other) publishers too. What's fair? I bet whatever it is, we are paying a helluva lot more than that but not as much perhaps as before which is why the music industry are so angry they've been penalised by technological progress (and not just piracy or at all piracy some might say). Just my views not that I know any better either. smile

Edit - Got a dispatch message this morning. TLOU is on its way! Hopefully it won't be a used item or dodgy rip off shoddy copy of showaddywaddy or something. tongue

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(legend) Fri 24-Jan-14 15:18:13
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an example I have seen.

tales of symphonia £40 on amazon, £40 on ebay, £16 on play.com. play.com was 40% of wholesale price. Was it stolen? sold at a loss? fake sale with no delivery? who knows.

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There will always be examples of malpractice, an exception isn't a rule unless it's commonplace. wink
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(experienced) Fri 24-Jan-14 17:07:52
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Well said smile
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(experienced) Fri 24-Jan-14 17:10:41
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So you going to start on TLOU when you get it ? I am getting the urge to give it another play through but not sure If I should wait for the DLC (out Feb 14) and play that through first as it is set before the main game.
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Well I didn't know the DLC was coming out so soon. That's the season pass thing I've been seeing for £17.99 or so isn't it? Are you getting it then?

I don't know anything about it all, how long it is or anything but it sounds good if it extends the experience of TLOU. Not sure how many hours long it is? Not sure why I'm asking other people this when I could just google it myself...? crazy grin
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(experienced) Fri 24-Jan-14 17:44:52
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Yeah I will definitely pick it up as it's such a brilliant game.

It's called Left Behind, about Ellie set before the main TLOU story. It will be the only single player DLC. No details on how long it is but they said it is a 'good length'..

The season pass includes all the DLC, not sure how much it is individually.
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There's more? Why yes there is but it's mostly online map pack stuff? Not sure I care for that but Left Behind sounds really compelling. I will wait to see what your thoughts are on that one mate though I may go for it at some later point. I've spent too much on games lately: GTA V, RDR and TLOU all bought in the last few weeks so that's about £70 - £80 real life money already... crazy
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I still have mine to play. I started it but got sidetracked by GTA
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In reply to a post by Lt_Swan:
I still have mine to play. I started it but got sidetracked by GTA


Easy thing to happen... GTA is a compelling game eh?
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Yea I'm still hooked on it even though my American mates have started playing BF4
I'm Billy no mates at the mo frown Or Billeta no mates at the moment laugh
Must stop playing with her. Will keep her safe until you and Blue join in the fun
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(experienced) Fri 24-Jan-14 21:15:53
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Yeah I am not really interested in the other DLC so will probably just pick up Left Behind by itself. Will let you know what it's like but I am sure it will be excellent smile

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(experienced) Fri 24-Jan-14 21:17:38
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That is understandable but TLOU is also a must play game when you have time.
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(legend) Sat 25-Jan-14 15:40:02
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well since early january psn reliability has gone to [censored] on ps3, constant "error occured signing out of psn" popping up.

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(legend) Sun 26-Jan-14 14:32:23
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googled error code, apparently related to google dns, I changed and issue hasnt came back since.

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(experienced) Sun 26-Jan-14 19:44:58
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That makes sense as I have not noticed any problems with the PSN.

Were you changing DNS to watch US Netflix or something like that ?
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(legend) Sun 26-Jan-14 21:47:03
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no I dont watch netflix on my ps3, it was changed as I am just used to using google dns on all my devices.

Changing dns also wouldnt allow me to watch us netflix, for that either a us proxy or us vpn is needed.

google dns is local to the requesting address if works correctly. so 8.8.8.8 in america will be a different location to 8.8.8.8 in uk.

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(experienced) Sun 26-Jan-14 21:53:12
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Ok.

Changing to a US DNS on the PS3 does allow you to watch US Netflix.
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(legend) Sun 26-Jan-14 22:30:54
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ok so netflix are geotracking via connected dns server, google dns wont work for that tho.

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(knowledge is power) Sun 26-Jan-14 22:55:03
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Ok.

Changing to a US DNS on the PS3 does allow you to watch US Netflix.
You are right, I've seen a few companies offering that DNS service without VPN.
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(legend) Wed 29-Jan-14 18:26:22
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its here today, played it a bit. Is a change from my usual jrpg stuff smile

Upcoming games.

tales of symphonia chronicles - ps3
tales of xillia 2 - ps3
Tales of Zestiria - ps3
kingdom hearts 1.5 (already got) - ps3
FFX-FFX-2 HD - ps3
fable anniversary - xbox360
tales of the abyss hd - ps3

late rush of rpgs for the ps3.

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(legend) Fri 31-Jan-14 19:51:15
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ok I have just tested this thoery with x-files (american netflix only).

changed to an american dns server. x-files not listed
changed to american proxy server (hosted on same ip as my dns server). x-files listed.

so at least for me changing the dns server isnt enough. but I havent tried it on the ps3 yet only pc and wii-u.

yeah netflix arent fooled by changing dns now, most these articles were written in 2012.

http://www.reddit.com/r/cordcutters/comments/1i0acd/...

both consoles do allow a proxy to be set tho. I was just curious if changing dns would work as it would be better performance than rerouting traffic over a proxy.

unlock-us a service listed in many hits I suspect are using a reverse proxy or something.

Edited by Chrysalis (Fri 31-Jan-14 20:21:34)

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(experienced) Fri 31-Jan-14 20:23:28
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Changing the DNS on the PS3 does work, I have done it myself and watched US Netflix. The problem though is that Netflix must be blocking them as they would stop working after a while and you would need to find a new number and so on. A bit of a hassle so the proxy route would probably be a better and more permanent solution.
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(experienced) Fri 31-Jan-14 20:25:33
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Yes this was last year sometime when I tried it so it may well not work at all now then.
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(legend) Fri 31-Jan-14 20:57:39
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yeah this is how these paid services are working.

you enter their ip address.

for netflix etc. they give an ip that points to their own tunnels. so the connection to netflix isnt direct.

It seems tho both the wii-u and ps3 netflix apps ignore the proxy server setting So if I want to do this without paying a 3rd party it will be complex.

Its still easy on the pc I can one click change proxy server but the consoles with closed source apps that deliberatly ignore system proxy settings much more diffilcult.

Bear in mind I used my own personal dns server (hosted in america) not a shared service. The same dns server is used when I access via the proxy as its on the same server.

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(legend) Fri 31-Jan-14 22:17:14
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well the way I will do this if I can be bothered is probably via vpn on the router, although this looks a bit of a pain to setup as well so I havent done it yet.

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(legend) Sun 02-Feb-14 00:45:08
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ok x-files is playing now on my ps3.

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(experienced) Sun 02-Feb-14 21:08:17
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May well try doing that at some point, I have a Asus RT-N56U router which has loads of settings you can fiddle with so should be possible.
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(legend) Mon 03-Feb-14 14:58:31
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confirm works fine on wii-u also.

interestingly it seems only the auth server needs an american ip, I can confirm (given I own my VPN server) that the actual streaming traffic is still direct not via the VPN. Indeed once logged into netflix, I can disable the VPN and still stream american only shows as long as I dont logout.

I reccomend the merlin version of asuswrt, its added the openvpn client functions. I setup openvpn on one of my american servers abd set it to only push out routes for specific netblock's (which are supposedbly all netflix). So even if I left the vpn on 24/7 traffic not to those netblocks wont use the vpn. (for performance as using VPN for everything will slow things down, add latency etc.). But the vpn on the asuswrt merlin firmware is very easy to toggle on/off on demand so I will only turn it on when required.

http://www.lostrealm.ca/tower/node/79

If you try something similiar yourself I can share my openvpn client/server configs with you to assist, let me know.

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Cheers will let you know if I decide to give it a try.
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