BT Phone Number *DELETED*

Post deleted by MrSaffron

I might be missing something here but I thought you had to call your 'service provider'?
Whether that be phone or DSL.

Sorry - I replied thinking this was micksharpe's thread about the wall bolt.

Edited by RobertoS (Sat 08-Aug-15 20:08:43)

These ain't secret numbers to 'BT', they are just some engineer's mobile numbers that shouldn't be published on this site.

In reply to a post by partial:

These ain't secret numbers to 'BT', they are just some engineer's mobile numbers that shouldn't be published on this site.

Wrong, they are the numbers CALLED by the engineers, back to their base on my line. DIAL the darned numbers like I DID and see where you end up - Something I did 400 miles from home when I found calls going out on my line with nobody at home.

Edited by professor973 (Sat 08-Aug-15 22:41:43)

Well google tells me that 07436 and 07711 are both mobile numbers.

I'm pretty sure those are OR engineer mobile numbers which definitely should not be published!

In reply to a post by btbert:

Well google tells me that 07436 and 07711 are both mobile numbers.

Well a fool could work that out - They START with 07 - You are clever enough to work for Openscreech. Why not just DIAL them instead of rubbishing everything I post.

Post removed as included BT Mobile telephone numbers

Giving out what was BT Mobile numbers helps no-one and as such they have been removed.

PATHETIC - WHY the HELL don'y you ring those numbers and hear 'BT HOME' upon answer. [censored] off with near every post being rubbished. They were numbers dialed out BY an engineer on my line remotely while I was away from home, probably from the cab. EVERY instance is then followed up by TWO 17070 calls

I have stated over and over again, that if you dial those numbers, that BT Home answer first number I posted. Are you stupid, or did you have to study? - There you are, you can ban me again now and be proud of yourself.

When you post stuff that does not break the rules the posts remain simple.

In reply to a post by professor973:

I have stated over and over again, that if you dial those numbers, that BT Home answer first number I posted. Are you stupid, or did you have to study? - There you are, you can ban me again now and be proud of yourself.

Every company has its own numbers for engineers to ring, mine included, they are not available for direct access by customers. There is a procedure to follow, for customers of ISP they should follow it.

I told you, that when those numbers that were rung BY engineers on my line were rung by me, they were answered stating they were BT HOME. Plenty of scammers hide a landline number under a mobile number, so why can't BT use something similar. I know the call was made BY a BT engineer which is why it does not show up on my bill. All calls here are recorded, so I can show what was coming down the earpiece when I phoned that number, but why should I.

In reply to a post by flippery:

In reply to a post by professor973:

I have stated over and over again, that if you dial those numbers, that BT Home answer first number I posted. Are you stupid, or did you have to study? - There you are, you can ban me again now and be proud of yourself.

Every company has its own numbers for engineers to ring, mine included, they are not available for direct access by customers. There is a procedure to follow, for customers of ISP they should follow it.

What has that got to do with being 400 miles from home and seeing calls being made on your line from 'An extension handset', when your house should be empty. So you would not check out who it was? - How can I follow a procedure I have not been given? - Not that it was needed, direct dial worked.

http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/faq_english.php#rules

Posting personal details

You may not post home addresses, personal phone numbers, mobile phone numbers or other personal information about a company's officers or employees even if this information is in the public domain elsewhere (e.g. the whois database). We do not want to be in a position of hosting this content.

In reply to a post by professor973:

which is why it does not show up on my bill.

I would guess that it doesn't show up on your bill because the calls were not answered.

LLU phone numbers are often not supplied to the engineers on the job notes so I would imagine ringing your mobile was a good way for them to find out and store the customer's number.

No one is saying if you spot those numbers that it is wrong for you to call them, but promoting them in your words as "These numbers that engineers use to phone into BT and OR" on a public forum is not going to help anyone, other any get an engineers mobile re-numbered.

The procedure if you do not know it when you have a fault is
1. If its voice related to call your voice line rental provider
OR
2. If its broadband related to call who ever supplies your broadband

This is important in a LLU world, because Openreach do not have access to LLU providers hardware or status logs, so before Openreach becomes involved the LLU providers would check that they themselves do not have a fault e.g. dead line card port on their MSAN.

In reply to a post by partial:

In reply to a post by professor973:

which is why it does not show up on my bill.

I would guess that it doesn't show up on your bill because the calls were not answered.

LLU phone numbers are often not supplied to the engineers on the job notes so I would imagine ringing your mobile was a good way for them to find out and store the customer's number.

GOD give me strength! Nobody rung my mobile. Somebody, I suspect an OR engineer used MY line from outside my home, probably at the cab to CALL those numbers I posted, followed by TWO 17070 calls made the same way. I was 400 miles away from home at the time and my house supposedly empty, but my Truecall box log in page was showing these outgoing calls made on my line, detailing them as made "From an extension handset" just as it does from our cordless phones. So from 400 miles away I phoned the mobile number shown and got through to what seemed an OR control centre. had a long chat, with the guy telling about all the problems in my area and confirming he was BT OR and I had not got burglars. This happened again a couple of days ago, but the number was different (The first one I posted here). Again I called that number to check it out, with the system that answered announcing it was BT Home and presenting me with a menu. So, I don't need anyone telling me where those supposedly mobile numbers lead to.

If I want to past my home address and number I will.

In reply to a post by MrSaffron:

No one is saying if you spot those numbers that it is wrong for you to call them, but promoting them in your words as "These numbers that engineers use to phone into BT and OR" on a public forum is not going to help anyone, other any get an engineers mobile re-numbered.

The procedure if you do not know it when you have a fault is
1. If its voice related to call your voice line rental provider
OR
2. If its broadband related to call who ever supplies your broadband

This is important in a LLU world, because Openreach do not have access to LLU providers hardware or status logs, so before Openreach becomes involved the LLU providers would check that they themselves do not have a fault e.g. dead line card port on their MSAN.

You really are as stupid as you look aren't you. You KNOW very well I was not reporting a fault. You ALSO know very well, as I have stated MANY times, that the only reason I phoned the number being called on my phone, was because I though I may well have intruders while we were 400 miles away. WHAT do you not understand about that, or do you not want to, preferring to treat me like a child, telling me to adhere to procedure. Now why not do something useful, and program in a facility for users to unhook themselves from this place permanently, instead of the few days you give.

In reply to a post by professor973:

program in a facility for users to unhook themselves from this place permanently

That's easy - just stop typing.

I phoned the mobile number shown and got through to what seemed an OR control centre. had a long chat, with the guy telling about all the problems in my area

Which options did you then take, the guys and gals who do the Openreach control stuff ain't got time to waste talking to punters. Me, I'd say you are fibbing.

You really are as stupid as you look aren't you.

What a truly terrible attitude you display.



To the mods, can you put this guy on my ignore list please/ Thanks.

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

I phoned the mobile number shown and got through to what seemed an OR control centre. had a long chat, with the guy telling about all the problems in my area

Which options did you then take, the guys and gals who do the Openreach control stuff ain't got time to waste talking to punters. Me, I'd say you are fibbing.

And I say you're a [censored] !

Well I am amazed, over 24hrs since some of these posts and no issue of a banning notice, perhaps it has happened but was not published.

Andrew is mellowing with increasing age. We'll be seeing these forums switching to a larger font size soon.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

Andrew is mellowing with increasing age. We'll be seeing these forums switching to a larger font size soon.

hear he is upgrading his computer lol http://images.mentalfloss.com/sites/default/files/st...

O my, I'm rather concerned for your well-being, that was just weirdest angriest thread rant for no real reason, I have ever read.

In reply to a post by NilSatisOptimum:

O my, I'm rather concerned for your well-being, that was just weirdest angriest thread rant for no real reason, I have ever read.

Well, you may call being called a a fibber and idiot, having everything you post rubbished and being talked to as if a child, as "No real reason" to have a go at some of the stirring idiots here, then I feel sorry for you. It's simple - I don't take [censored] laying down from ANYONE. I treat folks as they treat me, but there is always one more oik here that has to try and keep the pot bubbling isn't there?

Edited by professor973 (Mon 10-Aug-15 23:57:54)

What is happening to this forum...

Is there a reason you feel you have to fight back...?

My concern is that by treating them like you treat them means your now on their level, e.g. being child like. Perhaps being confident that your not a fibber and idiot means one could stand by and rise above that.

Just saying thats all since it would be great to have the mixed views this forum brings .. but without the aggression.

I am of course not telling you what to do, and by all means feel free to call me an idiot or stupid or what ever if you would like.... I don't know everything and sometimes being human I get things wrong.

In reply to a post by b4dger:

I might be missing something here but I thought you had to call your 'service provider'?
Whether that be phone or DSL.

2nd post, and absolutely correct. Seems to have been ignored amongst all the drama though! Openreach's customers, when it comes to fault fixing, are the ISPs and not the end users.

So correct me if I'm wrong here but the moral of the story is...

That a 3rd party device being used on a line has detected a number (mobile) being called, even though nobody was meant to be at the premises...

However this call hasn't appeared on any bill that's known of yet and it seems to be a number that is related to BT/OR and is a private line, more likely used for maintenance or tests..

if this is the case, then BT/OR either broke into this person home to use there phone whilst away or the call blocker or monitor thingy has managed to pull information from the external side of the line which I'm almost sure Openreach / BT will frown upon and potentially mark the device as a potential hazard to their network or even neighboring connections..

Also whats the chances that this call detector device hasn't picked up or overheard another line and stored this number..

Why would I call you stupid. You are expressing yourself politely. Going back the best part of 60 years, I used to regularly hear 'Do as you would be done by' from my teacher - Treat others as you would wish to be treated in other words. Something I always try to do until I feel they deserve to be treated otherwise. I was brought up in a different world to the mad PC place it now is, where folks had good manners and actually helped others. That is certainly not the case for a significant part of fora, where many who are well up themselves thrive on talking to others as if dirt, along with dismissing everything out of hand as a matter of course. Unfortunately, very little is ever done to sort those that kick these things off, with those with the big stick seemingly sitting back and enjoying it until totally out of hand. The six stone wet through anorak with his computer balls don't bother me. I will happily take a ban to take them out with me ... Down to their level possibly, but it keeps me from wrecking phone boxes

Edited by professor973 (Tue 11-Aug-15 11:57:59)

Where have you been treated discourteously in this thread? Cut and paste, please. Not vague allusions. All of the abusive language seems to have emanated from you.

Take a look - Where is the bad language? - Cut and paste please!

In reply to a post by professor973:

Take a look - Where is the bad language? - Cut and paste please!

Well, how about:

In reply to a post by professor973:

And I say you're a [censored] !

You've triggered the swear-word filter three times in this thread. Would you care to spell out the one in my quote?

In reply to a post by mlmclaren:

So correct me if I'm wrong here but the moral of the story is...

That a 3rd party device being used on a line has detected a number (mobile) being called, even though nobody was meant to be at the premises...

However this call hasn't appeared on any bill that's known of yet and it seems to be a number that is related to BT/OR and is a private line, more likely used for maintenance or tests..

if this is the case, then BT/OR either broke into this person home to use there phone whilst away or the call blocker or monitor thingy has managed to pull information from the external side of the line which I'm almost sure Openreach / BT will frown upon and potentially mark the device as a potential hazard to their network or even neighboring connections..

Also whats the chances that this call detector device hasn't picked up or overheard another line and stored this number..

Now I am probably going to offend from the off here, but the above, is precisely the pompous bilge that spews within forums. Just ONE question. If the multi-award winning Truecall box is such rubbish, why have BT themselves now embedded the technology into their branded cordless phones? http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/mobile-phones/1401522...

I'm up for a challenge:

Well a fool could work that out - They START with 07 - You are clever enough to work for Openscreech

PATHETIC - WHY the HELL don'y you ring those numbers

[censored] off with near every post being rubbished

Are you stupid, or did you have to study

GOD give me strength

You really are as stupid as you look aren't you

And I say you're a [censored]

I don't take [censored] laying down from ANYONE

All of those quotes are yours. No-one else in this thread has been rude or has censored words (whether you wrote the censored yourself or it was automatic the intent is plain).

In reply to a post by micksharpe:

In reply to a post by professor973:

Take a look - Where is the bad language? - Cut and paste please!

Well, how about:

In reply to a post by professor973:

And I say you're a [censored] !

You've triggered the swear-word filter three times in this thread. Would you care to spell out the one in my quote?

SO! - Show me the word the silly filter thought unsuitable.

Don't see any swear words or anything unsuitable there there. If there was, the super duper filter would have blocked them. If this stirring and nitpicking is all you have to do, I suggest you get a job!

Edited by professor973 (Tue 11-Aug-15 13:04:48)

I assume the Truecall box is listening to the tones on the line to pick up when calls are made? If that is the case then as long as the upstream was not disconnected it could potentially pick up those signals even from downstream.

I don't see any issue with you calling the numbers to find out what they are (although I would probably have not done that as there is no telling how much a call to the numbers might have cost, could have been £5 just for dialling the number).

It is against the rules here to post phone numbers. Whether you agree with the rules or not that is the case so I disagree with you on that count.

So, did you type [censored] or was that the auto filter? Obviously after a word has been replaced we cannot see what the word originally was.

As far as the other quotes they may not have been swear words but they were inflammatory and no-one else in this thread has responded in the same manner.

I don't think MrSaffron did his job properly in this thread.

No more [censored] inflammatory than I am finding your [censored] posts - Now guess if there are REALLY any swear words in this post

He deleted a post containing third-party information (which is against the forum rules) and then gave his reason for doing so. What's not to like?

Care to elaborate on what is inflammatory about my posts? Happy to listen, maybe I can adjust my posting style to be less inflammatory?

In reply to a post by Oliver341:

I don't think MrSaffron did his job properly in this thread.

+1 - But then it's never nipped in the bud and allowed to escalate.

Ah! Now I understand Oliver's remark. What a strange person you are.

Edited by micksharpe (Tue 11-Aug-15 13:16:29)

This is the most uninteresting, childish, boring and pathetic thread I have ever read on this forum. Grow up all of you and get a life.

Oh! We're just trying to understand what makes the Perfesser tick.

In reply to a post by micksharpe:

Ah! Now I understand Oliver's remark.

Of course deleting the first post was the right course of action. But letting some of the other behaviour on this thread go unchecked is pretty ridiculous and it's a shame if that's now considered ok on this forum.

Mick,
Who on earth cares?
The guy is a a loser.

Whoops, that will probably set him off again.

In reply to a post by rogerfp:

Mick,
Who on earth cares?
The guy is a a loser.

That is EXACTLY the insults that many oiks here state are never thrown. That is EXACTLY what Andrew should step on to stop things escalating, but NO, he prefers to stand by and see me insulted, so rogerfp, you are a [censored] !

Edited by professor973 (Tue 11-Aug-15 15:02:21)

In reply to a post by philippercival:

Whoops, that will probably set him off again.

So you think insults like that are OK do you? - Would love to get my hands on the runt!

I didn't say the Truecall box was rubbish... I merely pointed out that a piece of hardware that can extract information from beyond the End Users property is probably not going to fly too well with BT....

It's the same two wires running all the way to the exchange.

understood but the truecall box is surely only supposed to pick up what runs through the box... so calls to it and from it... surely it shouldn't be able to pick up calls made from beyond it... so say from the PCP!

I don't see the problem with that.

Calls were made using the line, and the numbers were picked up by the (no doubt Openreach-certified) equipment. The fact they seem to be private Openreach numbers, possibly called by connecting to this line at the PCP, doesn't look to me like a major issue for Openreach.

Though I wouldn't recommend publishing these particular numbers once I'd established what they were. Which is why the post was deleted.

to be honest I was just surprised that the truecall box managed to do that...

But yes, the main issue here does seem to be the sharing of sensitive information and also the ongoing barrage of abusive language within the thread... all of which has originated from the dislike of enforcement of forum guidelines.

Anyway, I'm trying to get through to Plusnet COT... so got bigger things to worry about like my battery going dead before having my call answered

UPDATE: Ha, Plusnet answered the phone in record time, 6mins.... then where very polite and friendly which has been something I've not heard from Plusnet for some time... and then told me they owed me money... hehe

Line Ceased Though...

Edited by mlmclaren (Tue 11-Aug-15 16:20:33)

All perfectly fair enough Bob. I stated the reason I checked them out was because I was away from home. I did not see a problem with posting the numbers here. After all, the first one I posted was answered as BT Home and many contact numbers have been posted here. My initial reason for posting, if folks look back, was to state it may be a way for some to contact BT, as folks like me with their line away from BT are often not recognised. I have often been kicked out of a call or web search for BT services. Petty rules or not, there is no need for the abuse thrown at me, or for the powers that be to sit back and do nothing. We both know that if I was the one calling someone a loser, I would be banned.

Edited by professor973 (Tue 11-Aug-15 15:36:42)

And you wonder why no one likes you? Unbelievably stupid, ignorant and rude. Bet your family are really proud of you?

I think the intent is totally clear and actions are on the way

Fighting is NOT tolerated

Opportunity was given on deleting original post to allow poster to have their say, but alas things have gone the way they so often do.

You ask why you keep being suspended, you may feel it is fine to express your opinion of someone using a phrase such as 'The six stone wet through anorak with his computer balls don't bother me' is reasonable, but it is a clear attack on others with a view to escalating a situation for entertainment purposes.

What was a simple case of deletion of a post due to it infringing the posting of personal information rules has escalated and while opportunity and time was given for a variety of parties to calm down and act sensibly it seems that people refuse to learn, so thread closed and suspensions have been handed out.