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I've noticed this morning that the wholesale checker now shows two ranges for FTTC, although they are currently both the same at the moment.
Featured Products Downstream Line Rate(Mbps) Upstream Line rate(Mbps) Downstream Range(Mbps)
Availability Date
High Low High Low
FTTC Range A (Clean) 36.1 36.1 6.1 6.1 -- Available
FTTC Range B (Impacted) 36.1 36.1 6.1 6.1 -- Available
WBC ADSL 2+ Up to 12.5 -- 10 to 14.5 Available
WBC ADSL 2+ Annex M Up to 12.5 Up to 1 10 to 14.5 Available
ADSL Max Up to 8 -- 7 to 8 Available
WBC Fixed Rate 2 -- -- Available
Fixed Rate 2 -- -- Available
Other Offerings
Fibre Multicast -- -- -- Available
For FTTC Ranges A and B, the term "Clean" relates to a line which is free from any wiring issues (e.g. Bridge Taps) and/or Copper line conditions, and the term "Impacted" relates to a line which may have wiring issues (e.g. Bridge Taps) and/or Copper line conditions.
Throughput/download speeds will be less than line rates and can be affected by a number of factors within and external to BT's network, Communication Providers' networks and within customer premises.
Perhaps this is in readiness for self installs.
Edited by R0NSKI (Sun 17-Nov-13 11:15:32)
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I was curious what the term 'Bridge Taps' meant so asked my friend Google.
Here's a link to the Wikipedia page on the subject.
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Probably also reflects ability for remote testing to show presence of bridge taps, which usually means extensions in the home, so yes a good indicator for self installs
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Probably also reflects ability for remote testing to show presence of bridge taps, which usually means extensions in the home, so yes a good indicator for self installs
Extremely fast analysis though - it only took a second to check my phone number. Maybe it would have been longer if I had "bridge taps"? 
Edited by 4M2 (Sun 17-Nov-13 12:05:25)
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At a guess, the clean figure is based on a theoretical calculation taking into account cable types and lengths, whilst the impaired figure is based on the most recent measurement of the actual line parameters.
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Good to see they specify these are line rate rather than throughput. Most of us have always thought this, but it has sometimes caused confusion by not being clear.
It's a bit worrying to see my estimate, that used to be above 50/11 Mbps is now 36.1/6.5 Mbps against my current 59.4/14.4. That's 70%/45% !!
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Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 59.4/14.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
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In terms of UK FTTC it means wiring terminated across the pair before the faceplate filter.
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Why they removed FTTC on my telephone number (the old one use to say FTTC available in 30th November 2014) but it now disappear?
Not happy about this.
plusnetADSL2+16 Meg
Edited by adslmax (Mon 18-Nov-13 10:04:51)
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Why they removed FTTC on my telephone number (the old one use to say FTTC available in 30th November 2014) but it now disappear?
Not happy about this.
This is nothing to worry about, I've seen it happen many a time on the cabinets I've checked. Sometimes it seems to happen shortly before the cabinet goes live. Other times it just disappears not to reappear for a long time.
No idea why it disappears though.
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That's pretty stupid. Sound like BTW are unfit purpose to run the site checker.
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for me isnt matching, also I cant right click on the page.
FTTC Range A (Clean) 78.7 78.7 20 20 -- Available
FTTC Range B (Impacted) 59.3 59.3 20 20 -- Available
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Keep looking. As RONSKI says, it often happens just before the cabinet goes live. Like 2-3 days.
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Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 59.4/14.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
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Nor can I right click on the webpage, but surely you know how to use the keyboard?
Edited by R0NSKI (Mon 18-Nov-13 19:24:49)
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Why they removed FTTC on my telephone number (the old one use to say FTTC available in 30th November 2014) but it now disappear?
Do you mean 2014 or 2013?
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Nor can I right click on the screen, but surely you know how to use the keyboard? I can right-click, copy and paste, and type on the screen  . Nor can I right click on the screen, but surely you know how to use the keyboard?
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Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 59.4/14.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
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Calm down Robert, minor typo!
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I was merely making a joke to follow yours, because I have a touch-screen laptop and made that whole post, including the copy and paste, without touching the physical keyboard. As a copy and paste requires a "right click" ....
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Ah, I see now, trouble with the internet not all is always conveyed
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Well this is certainly interesting, as I see the estimates have dropped as well. (to 44/8 in our case)
It's followed reality, at least!
When we first got VDSL last month it said 59/20. Reality was 65/20 with throughput of 62/15.
A week later it dropped to 55/15.
Then about a week later it went to 50/15.
Then to 45/13.
Now it seems to have settled on 47/13. I'm just glad the upload speed hasn't plummeted too much, the estimated 8 would be a bit frustrating.
What bugs me is that it was so much better early on and I keep watching it going down and down and down week after week, YES I know, "crosstalk", even though it's a huge drop and it's in a quiet area that just went live where most people think a "broad band" is something to do with the Spice Girls. I don't think it's crosstalk, personally, I doubt there's more than a few in the cabinet yet and am not looking forward to it gradually taking effect.
I'm just wondering how many times it's going to drop, and then BT quietly reducing the estimated speed on their site to match it.
Edited by deleted (Tue 26-Nov-13 10:25:20)
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You may well stay the same, or even get better. I was the first on our cabinet, I never did get the estimated 57/20, at one point I was getting less than 40, now over a year on I'm getting 47/9. Our estate is very popular for families, so I should think take up is fairly high.
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Cool, well fingers crossed it maybe creeps up again one day. It's just been a little worrying seeing it drop week on week but if it settles here it's good enough.
On the other side of the various swings and roundabouts, we just had it installed at work today (hence I'm posting here, as part of trying to predict how it'll perform).. we were seeing a prediction of 19/1.5 but are currently getting 37/6.
The upload in particular makes it much more viable for cloud-related applications, whilst 1.5 would've left us thinking twice. BUT based on my experience at home I know the DLM tends to stay its hand in the first few days and that it almost certainly will drop. I'm half expecting it to drop to the predicted 19/1.5 or even further down over the next few weeks so I'm trying not to get too excited yet!
Edited by deleted (Tue 26-Nov-13 14:27:45)
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Interleaving can kick in after a couple of days, which can wipe a chunk off your speed , this is what happened on both my home line and my works line.
The good thing is that interleaving very rarely affects your upload speed. You may also find that you are on a 40/10 product, so your download attainable may be higher. If you have a low estimate the ISP will put you on a product that matches the estimated speed, as it saves a few quid for the ISP.
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Hate that DLM & IP Profile things. Wish BT removed it off for good.
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Yeah it's a 40/10 product at work, throughput of 37.5 right now which sounds to me like maxing out at 40 minus overheads. I wasn't sure if it was worth considering asking for 80/20 to see if a few more drops can be squeezed out of the bandwidth, but perhaps not.
At home I'm fairly sure interleaving got applied (will have to hook up a laptop to the unlocked modem at some point..) as the ping did go up by 10ms or so. It's a pain really and I hope they make it optional one day - I'm not bothered that the DLM thought it looked a bit unstable, our real world experience was that it worked perfectly with consistent pings and downloads.
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I unlocked the modem at work, and the attainable was about 42, so I didn't consider it worthwhile getting put on an 80/20 product. As it happens interleaving kicked in and we're down to 36.
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At home I'm fairly sure interleaving got applied (will have to hook up a laptop to the unlocked modem at some point..) I have LAN2 of the unlocked modem going to a LAN port on my router. The modem IP address fixed of course, and the router DHCP excluding it from the allocatable range.
I can access the modem from both my wired and wireless machines.
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Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 59.4/14.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
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Mines updated now and show different values for the two ranges.
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2 | FTTC Range A (Clean) 55.5 39.9 14.2 8.6 -- Available
FTTC Range B (Impacted) 48 24.9 14.2 6.8 -- Available |
Edited by R0NSKI (Sun 01-Dec-13 09:15:19)
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Mine has also changed and I'm currently extremely confused?
FTTC Range A (Clean) 28.7 20 6.7 4.9 -- Available
FTTC Range B (Impacted) 23.1 11.2 5.9 2.9 -- Available
My original was 26.3/5.6, which I never got. Then after the first change it went to to 21.8/5 and a couple of weeks it went to 20.8/4.6.
Though the estimates have always followed by my sync speed by 1 Mbps.
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And mine | Text | 1
2 | FTTC Range A (Clean) 80 78.1 20 20 -- Available
FTTC Range B (Impacted) 80 67.2 20 19 -- Available |
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On a clean line you will get between 20.6 to 28.7
On an impacted line you will get between 11.2 to 23.1
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I was confused over the clean estimate beating my original estimate, I understand fully what they mean.
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They are including the Vectoring effect.
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Mine has also changed and I'm currently extremely confused?
Likewise
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2 | FTTC Range A (Clean) 59.3 43.7 16.2 10 -- Available
FTTC Range B (Impacted) 49.7 26.7 16.2 7.4 -- Available |
Yet my sync is currently (thanks to Burakkat's scripts due to the loss of the web UI):
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2 | Max: Upstream rate = 9565 Kbps, Downstream rate = 60792 Kbps
Bearer: 0, Upstream rate = 9464 Kbps, Downstream rate = 53307 Kbps |
I gained a couple of thousands Kbps after the new software and for the first time was on fastpath but that seems to have gone now. TCP/IP throughput is around 50megabit download and 8.5megabit upload.
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...
James BT Infinity 2 19/09/2012 - Sold 42/6 - Getting 49/8.5 - Sync 53 / 9.5 Mbps @ 470m approx
14 years of broadband (ntl: cable to BT FTTC) - Router: Asus RT-N66U - Modem: Huawei HG612 speedtest
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They are including the Vectoring effect.
Nice if they are, do you have any links to confirm that as I was hoping for a higher upload speed with Vectoring ? :-/
James BT Infinity 2 19/09/2012 - Sold 42/6 - Getting 49/8.5 - Sync 53 / 9.5 Mbps @ 470m approx
14 years of broadband (ntl: cable to BT FTTC) - Router: Asus RT-N66U - Modem: Huawei HG612 speedtest
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They seem to be trying to get things more correct.
My estimate was originally 58, then dropped to 52 a few months ago (when lots dropped).
Just rechecked on reading this thread, and it is now
FTTC Range A (Clean) 77.5 59.1 20 18.6 -- Available
FTTC Range B (Impacted) 66.8 38.1 20 13.3 -- Available
My actual right now is 77.7; almost spot on their top estimate.
My speed was around 70 for months, then jumped a few weeks ago when DLM removed interleaving (probably after the modem firmware upgrade).
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Was the recent firmware upgrade to allow for vectoring?
I thought that vectoring was still very much just in trial.
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Question to those unfortunates out there with aluminium lines.
I know that in the past you usually got well below the estimate (unlike most of us who got a bit above).
Does your estimate now allow for your aluminium lines, or is it still as inaccurate as ever?
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Moved (with trepidation turned relief) to BT Infinity 2 for upload speed. Happy BE user for several years.
Edited by StephenTodd (Sun 01-Dec-13 11:11:13)
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"My actual right now is 77.7; almost spot on their top estimate."
Same, Current sync 28.1Mbps.
The recent software added support of 30a being supported by the modem.
Vectoring won't do much for ECI cabs unless they have secretly been running a national hardware upgrade. I will be asking an engineer friend of mine if he can have a peak into my cabinet and take some photos for me!
Some cabs have had upgraded Hardware, the Hardware upgrade could of possibly been the reason.
I have 250 meters of aliminium on a 965 meter line.
After a DLM reset my line syncs at 34/35Mbps but is unstable, I'm assuming this is the ali at work. Once settled normally goes around my estimate, though where I live there is a high amount of REIN.
Edited by deleted (Sun 01-Dec-13 11:25:32)
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It has nothing to do with Vectoring, at least that is what I believe.
This is preparation for self-installs which are set to go live next year, hence the explanation of Clean and Impacted (being bridge taps, etc, they have no relevance to Vecotring).
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The recent software added support of 30a being supported by the modem. My modem already supported 30a without being upgraded, so this is a red herring.
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Wow, mine's jumped around quite a bit from last week (or week before) when i started another thread wondering why my estimate was low for what i worked out should be a relatively short line. Previously was getting an estimate for approx 26mbps down and 6mbps up for both Range A and B
High Low High Low
FTTC Range A (Clean) 45.9 32.4 8.3 6.5 -- Available
FTTC Range B (Impacted) 39.1 19.4 8.3 5.7 -- Available
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You are correct, sorry! I was thinking about the MK2 for some reason...
Time to get a coffee I think!
Edited by deleted (Sun 01-Dec-13 11:50:25)
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The recent software added support of 30a being supported by the modem. Where do you get that from please? It would be very odd, as the requirement for CP-supplied kit does not include 30a. Only 17a with vectoring and SRA.
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Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 59.4/14.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
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Mine is now FTTC Range A (Clean) 63.8 46.9 18.6 12 -- Available
FTTC Range B (Impacted) 53 29.5 18.6 8.4 -- Available
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 59.4/14.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
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It's supported 30a for a while (if not always) but it's never been possible to get a sync.
Can find various test articles on the HG612 wordpress (asbokids results).
I know SRA was enabled but where is the source of vectoring added?
Edited by deleted (Sun 01-Dec-13 12:43:50)
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Originally it was 31 and 5.9 for me and I'm about 800 metres from cab.
It is now (or will be when the engineers finally find their way out of the cabinet end of the supposedly blocked ducts and get the cab live):
FTTC Range A (Clean) 50.3 35.8 10.4 7
FTTC Range B (Impacted) 43.6 21.8 10.4 6
I am not impacted to the best of my knowledge, no extra wiring internally and the only aluminium is a very short run on the exchange side of the cab (or so I was told - makes sense as ADSL2+ is 2Mb/s above current upper estimate).
Edited by tbailey2 (Sun 01-Dec-13 13:00:08)
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It's supported 30a for a while (if not always) but it's never been possible to get a sync. Because Openreach have no plans for 30a. So even if it does, it's irrelevant. I know SRA was enabled but where is the source of vectoring added? We are at cross purposes there . I'm not saying the OR modems support vectoring, (yet?). I'm saying the requirement for Openreach to approve CP equipment is that theirs do.
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Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 59.4/14.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
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I see my estimate when from 62.7meg to 80meg. Says my exchanges now accepting orders but still unable to order  .
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Source they have no plans for 30a?
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I don't think it's anything to do with vectoring, as others have said I think they are just trying to get the estimate more accurate, and ready for self installs.
My original estimate last year was for 57/20, which I've never had. I'm currently getting 47/8, so sitting at the top of the impacted range and midway in the clean range. The best estimated speed on the range last week was 36Mbps.
I'm 450 meters, with no problems with my internal wiring. I don't think there is any ally in my line, but I can't be sure. And I really hope vectoring will give me a big boost in speed if we ever get it, we are on an ECI cab.
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2 | FTTC Range A (Clean) 55.5 39.9 14.2 8.6 -- Available
FTTC Range B (Impacted) 48 24.9 14.2 6.8 -- Available |
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My original estimate last year was for 57/20, which I've never had. I'm currently getting 47/8, so sitting at the top of the impacted range and midway in the clean range. The best estimated speed on the range last week was 36Mbps.
I'm 450 meters, with no problems with my internal wiring. I don't think there is any ally in my line, but I can't be sure. And I really hope vectoring will give me a big boost in speed if we ever get it, we are on an ECI cab.
Pretty similar to mine, my internal wiring is just the master socket (as configured by the FTTC install) - my line is around 470metres and I was predicted 46 / 6 when signing up in Sept 2012. Huawei cabinet, one of the big ones.
James BT Infinity 2 19/09/2012 - Sold 42/6 - Getting 49/8.5 - Sync 53 / 9.5 Mbps @ 470m approx
14 years of broadband (ntl: cable to BT FTTC) - Router: Asus RT-N66U - Modem: Huawei HG612 speedtest
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Source they have no plans for 30a? Source any intention of 30a?
There was something a while ago. IIRC it was ruled out when the vectoring project went ahead.
Imagine the stink if OR come out with 30a when a few million CP non-30a modems have gone into the field!
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Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 59.4/14.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
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Source they have no plans for 30a? We've had this discussion recently. There's no official "We've no plans for Profile 30a" statement. However: - Profile 30a is incompatible with the current ANFP
- the line cards Openreach are installing in the DSLAMs do not support Profile 30a (different line cards are needed, which, on the Huawei version, have half the port density), and
- the SIN 498 section 3.2.2 requirements for CP provided equipment requires Profile 17a, vectoring and SRA, but does not require Profile 30a support
It therefore seems unlikely that we will see Profile 30a on the Openreach network soon, if at all.
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Here's mine now, at approx 450m:
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2 | FTTC Range A (Clean) 80 63 20 20 -- Available
FTTC Range B (Impacted) 71.7 44.1 20 15.4 -- Available |
I normally sync at just under 70Mbps.
Edited by kasg (Sun 01-Dec-13 15:59:24)
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Mine has jumped substantially. Previous estimate was 56.6Mb down, 15.6Mb up.
FTTC Range A (Clean) 80 66.6 20 20 -- 31-May-14
FTTC Range B (Impacted) 76.3 48.9 20 17.3 -- 31-May-14
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what they need to do now is add to the checker when phone number used a line check result.
so what plusnet have on their test,.
if crosstalk detected.
bridge tap detected.
remote QPT result.
I am dreaming too much I guess
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by the way I am doing screenshot incase people think I was making stuff up, I will censor part showing my address tho, the clean has been lowered but the important bit is the fact the NEW impacted estimate is the same as my previous estimate, this to me suggests my line is bridge tapped or something.
NEw Estimate, Impacted same as Old estimate
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I wonder which of these four numbers Plusnet (and other ISPs) will use for their estimated speeds. My Plusnet estimate still shows as 54Mb, last checked on 2013-09-26 10:25:05, which was before the recent changes to the checker.
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I wondered the same yesterday and I posted a few results on kitz.
Current estimates from Wholesale
High Low High Low
FTTC Range A (Clean) 28.7 20 6.7 4.9 -- Available
FTTC Range B (Impacted) 23.1 11.2 5.9 2.9 -- Available
Estimates
BT
20Mbps* Download speed (Clean, Low)
4.9Mbps* Upload speed (Clean, Low)
Sky
20.3Mbps Download speed (Clean, Low?)
N/A Upload Speed
TalkTalk
20Mbps Download speed (Clean, Low)
4Mbps Upload speed
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My parents have went from 66.8 down and 20 up to: (Roughly 200m from the cabinet)
FTTC Range A (Clean) 80 78.1 20 20 -- Available
FTTC Range B (Impacted) 80 67.2 20 19 -- Available
Virgin Media 30Mbps
Edited by BuckleZ (Mon 02-Dec-13 09:55:01)
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what was your old estimate?
I think thats very important when posting these new.
I may have posted a bit fast with my claims I have an impacted line, if everyone else's impacted matches their old estimate then I am wrong.
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Your post caught my eye, so I did another check, and low and behold, the checker shows FTTP available! )
CHARLES STREET, NEWLYN, PENZANCE, TR18 5QB on Exchange PENZANCE is served by Cabinet 1
WBC FTTP DLR, Up to 330 ULR, Up to 30 Downtream Range, -- Available
Underneath the info box, the first line is:
Our records show the following FTTP network service information for these premises:- Single Dwelling Unit Residential UG Part proven.
Can someone tell me if UG means underground? If so, this would make some sense, as the groundworks were started last January and finished by end of February, but no sign since then of any fibre being blown. (Not that there's any rush to get hold of this service, of course... )
Thanks in advance
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Lucky you! I wish I had FTTP instead of FTTC.
I would think almost certainly that UG stood for underground.
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Yeah, sorry.
Old estimate 26.3/5.6 (First estimate and order estimate) then over the changers finally dropping to like 20.8/4.
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Your post caught my eye, so I did another check, and low and behold, the checker shows FTTP available! )
CHARLES STREET, NEWLYN, PENZANCE, TR18 5QB on Exchange PENZANCE is served by Cabinet 1
WBC FTTP DLR, Up to 330 ULR, Up to 30 Downtream Range, -- Available
Underneath the info box, the first line is:
Our records show the following FTTP network service information for these premises:- Single Dwelling Unit Residential UG Part proven.
Can someone tell me if UG means underground? If so, this would make some sense, as the groundworks were started last January and finished by end of February, but no sign since then of any fibre being blown. (Not that there's any rush to get hold of this service, of course... )
Thanks in advance
You are lucky man!!!!!! I am jealous of this!
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Oh interesting, ours has changed too.
FTTC Range A (Clean) 68.1 50.7 20 14 -- Available
FTTC Range B (Impacted) 57.4 32.3 20 9.9 -- Available
LOLLLLLL.... I wish. It was only those kind of speeds for the first 2-3 days.
Reality: 47 down 13 up
I guess they've given up on the "conservative estimate" idea.
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Here's mine now, at approx 450m:
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2 | FTTC Range A (Clean) 80 63 20 20 -- Available
FTTC Range B (Impacted) 71.7 44.1 20 15.4 -- Available |
I normally sync at just under 70Mbps.
My estimate is identical to this. I used to think I was 400m from the cabinet, but after recently discovering that the phone line exits the back of the building, and goes along a back alley, we might be 20-30 metres less than this.
Our previous estimate was around 55Mbps, while we sync at 80Mbps with little spare capacity.
We did, recently, suffer about 6 weeks of DLM intervention that dropped us to 75Mbps, but I'm not sure why it was turned on or why it was removed - I really ought to update my scripts to cope with the changed firmware!
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Yeah, sorry.
Old estimate 26.3/5.6 (First estimate and order estimate) then over the changers finally dropping to like 20.8/4.
thanks, also if you curious I did check infinity's checker for my line, it matches my clean low, same as yours.
so basically these new estimates dont match any of your previous estimates? If I am right your previous estimate was very similiar to your clean low? my previous exactly same as my impacted low. But infinity checker now matches my clean low, meaning my estimate has shot up on the retail isp side.
High Low High Low
FTTC Range A (Clean) 28.7 20 6.7 4.9 -- Available
FTTC Range B (Impacted) 23.1 11.2 5.9 2.9 -- Available
BT Infinity 2 Since Dec 2012 - BQMEdited by Chrysalis (Mon 02-Dec-13 22:29:07)
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Interesting indeed
FTTC Range A (Clean) 80 78.1 20 20 -- Available
FTTC Range B (Impacted) 80 67.2 20 19 -- Available
hmmm
i'm on a 40/10 package so i guess i'm ok :3
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