FTTP is live now

In reply to a post by adslmax:

My FTTP finally goes LIVE today

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/assets/speedtest/1767...

In reply to a post by PCJM40:

Looks good, hope you use and enjoy the new extra speed.

In reply to a post by adslmax:

My FTTP finally goes LIVE today

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/assets/speedtest/1767...

In reply to a post by Bryer:

Isn't that latency a bit high for FTTP? Thought BT based latency was closer to 10 or less?

In reply to a post by adslmax:

My FTTP finally goes LIVE today

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/assets/speedtest/1767...

In reply to a post by Bryer:

Still, the latency is high for a FTTP product from my experience

In reply to a post by PCJM40:

Maybe the average latency values from a BQM CSV is a better measurement. Would be interested to hear peoples views on that.

In reply to a post by Bryer:

Isn't that latency a bit high for FTTP? Thought BT based latency was closer to 10 or less?

In reply to a post by Rhynchelma:

Need name change to fttpmax.

In reply to a post by Bryer:

Sorry forgot I needed to be specific. It's an Openreach provided network, providing a BT Wholesale product to an ISP.

Still, the latency is high for a FTTP product from my experience, unless I'm out the loop with my altnet latency figures.....

In reply to a post by PCJM40:

I think a simple ping from a device your end will be inline with the BQM data whereas the browser test is likely to be around double that.

In reply to a post by adslmax:

Just testing latecy using Linux terminal

In reply to a post by jchamier:

That looks good Max, confims what I thought, that the web speedtest "ping" is something different.

In reply to a post by adslmax:

Here is my BQM (it look like lots of packet loss or just igorne it?)

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/...

In reply to a post by adslmax:

That's good to know it. Here is my BQM (it look like lots of packet loss or just igorne it?)

In reply to a post by MHC:

You need to start complaing about the latency - I'm seeing 3ms

In reply to a post by jpm:

This is quite cruel if you're familiar with the OPs history of obsessing over tiny things that aren't service impacting. 6ms from Telford to London is absolutely fine.

In reply to a post by jpm:

This is quite cruel if you're familiar with the OPs history of obsessing over tiny things that aren't service impacting. 6ms from Telford to London is absolutely fine.

Edited by adslmax (Sat 10-Jan-26 21:27:01)

In reply to a post by jchamier:

6ms is exceptionally good. I'm 20 miles from Heathrow and get 17ms to bbc.co.uk on Virgin coax cable.

Edited by adslmax (Sat 10-Jan-26 21:41:04)

In reply to a post by adslmax:

Thanks. ONT I got is Zyxel PM5313-00 the latest 2.5G Wan and Lan ports from Openreach.

Testing ping using CMD from Windows 11 Pro

Windows PowerShell
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Install the latest PowerShell for new features and improvements! https://aka.ms/PSWindows

PS C:\Users\W11> ping bbc.co.uk

Pinging bbc.co.uk [2a04:4e42:200::81] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 2a04:4e42:200::81: time=6ms
Reply from 2a04:4e42:200::81: time=6ms
Reply from 2a04:4e42:200::81: time=6ms
Reply from 2a04:4e42:200::81: time=6ms

Ping statistics for 2a04:4e42:200::81:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 6ms, Maximum = 6ms, Average = 6ms
PS C:\Users\W11>

Edited by zyborg47 (Sun 11-Jan-26 08:09:59)

In reply to a post by MHC:

You need to start complaing about the latency - I'm seeing 3ms

Edited by candlerb (Sun 11-Jan-26 21:09:26)

In reply to a post by PCJM40:

If you're concerned about packet loss use this website (remember to change test server to UK)

https://packetlosstest.com/

Edited by adslmax (Sun 11-Jan-26 12:01:04)

In reply to a post by adslmax:

Done it. On Windows 11 Pro PC

https://i.ibb.co/Z6pckWwf/packetlosstest.jpg

In reply to a post by PCJM40:

Thats good, its not showing any packet loss.

Edited by adslmax (Sun 11-Jan-26 12:45:53)

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

Just wondering why you are so bothered about it?

In reply to a post by jchamier:

Higher latency is also visible in web pages, on some ISPs you click a link and it feels slow to open next page, even with high data rate connection, but this can ALSO be a faulty DNS service.

Edited by adslmax (Sun 11-Jan-26 15:17:27)

In reply to a post by jchamier:

In reply to a post by adslmax:

That's good to know it. Here is my BQM (it look like lots of packet loss or just igorne it?)

I'd ignore the red dots, you worry when you have red lines, but compare with my BQM for my Virgin Media coax service (in my sig) I have a constant 1% packet loss, doesn't really seem to affect me. Started in Oct 2025.

The spikes could easily be when your router is doing something else and takes longer to reply to Thinkbroadband. Not likely a problem. The average latency looks pretty good for a UK broadband service.

Edited by seb (Sun 11-Jan-26 16:46:44)

In reply to a post by adslmax:

I think it pointless to do it because all devices are all WiFi 6, none of them all on WiFi 7 yet. Might keep the wifi 7 in the spare cupboard for now for future.

In reply to a post by seb:

Spikes that are aligned to latency can indicate timeouts whilst max latency is not timing out, but often related to saturating the line (especially upstream). I wouldn't panic about those red bits.. keep an eye though and see if it matches your usage.

Edited by adslmax (Sun 11-Jan-26 17:20:33)

In reply to a post by jchamier:

WiFi 6 can easily do the gigabit speed.

WiFi 6 is a useful improvement over WiFi 5 for homes with many people and lots of devices, WiFi 7 is not yet essential.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

In reply to a post by seb:

Spikes that are aligned to latency can indicate timeouts whilst max latency is not timing out, but often related to saturating the line (especially upstream). I wouldn't panic about those red bits.. keep an eye though and see if it matches your usage.

Thanks, useful info. In my case I have no real measureable packet loss, just a red line on BQM around the 0% on the graph. The other tool quoted in this thread and my own simple tests haven't seen any loss.

In reply to a post by seb:

Sorry hadn't seen your but saw it in your signature. Yours is too perfect to be random. I think your router might be dropping packets either routinely once every XX seconds or it's detecting it as a DoS for a short time.. I'd love to know why so we can add it to the examples

I suspect this may also be a combination of the small packet size on our BQM (which differs from most tools you may find elsewhere). This said, we're hoping to launch a couple of new BQM features which may be interesting for this kind of issue

In reply to a post by jchamier:

Yes, WiFi 7 is good to have in 2026 with faster services like your gigabit. Its just if you are already on WiFi 6 the difference may not be noticeable.

In reply to a post by adslmax:

I use WiFi 7 from Apple TV downstair from using new TP Link WiFi 7 for wireless access point checking speedtest from Apple TV app and it get 750Meg down and 114Meg up. Seem WiFi 7 no different to WiFi 6 for same speed.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

The Apple TV boxes don't yet support WiFi 7, rumours are that a new one in 2026 might.

WiFi 6 only, not 6e:
https://www.apple.com/uk/apple-tv-4k/specs/

In reply to a post by Banger:

I am still using Wifi 5 and get 500 megabits to my old Core 2 Duo machine from upstairs to downstairs in mesh.

In reply to a post by adslmax:

In reply to a post by Banger:

I am still using Wifi 5 and get 500 megabits to my old Core 2 Duo machine from upstairs to downstairs in mesh.

What is mesh? Never heard of it.

In reply to a post by ian72:

Just to say, not just Asus. Many manufacturers provide mesh network capabilities (for example the Eero devices that I use).

In reply to a post by jchamier:

Sorry hadn't seen your but saw it in your signature. Yours is too perfect to be random. I think your router might be dropping packets either routinely once every XX seconds or it's detecting it as a DoS for a short time.. I'd love to know why so we can add it to the examples

Edited by Chrysalis (Mon 12-Jan-26 17:05:29)

In reply to a post by jchamier:

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

Just wondering why you are so bothered about it?

Some people have very high latency on VDSL/FTTC and some have latency that changes dramatically over time.

Higher latency is also visible in web pages, on some ISPs you click a link and it feels slow to open next page, even with high data rate connection, but this can ALSO be a faulty DNS service.

In reply to a post by adslmax:

Forget to metioned. All testing are done via TP Link VX230v wifi 6 router. Do you think it worth to change to new TP Link Archer BE230 (BE3600) as I haven't setup this WiFi 7 fibre router yet.

I think it pointless to do it because all devices are all WiFi 6, none of them all on WiFi 7 yet. Might keep the wifi 7 in the spare cupboard for now for future.

TP Link VX230v WiFi 6 reported download speed of 818Mbps and 111Mbps up from Samsung A54 5G mobile using wifi 6 in the same room.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

If all your devices are WiFi 6 capable that is impressive, and I agree, don't bother swapping to the WiFi 7 router yet. Keep it if your 6 router fails or you get a WiFi 7 device. WiFi 6 can easily do the gigabit speed.

WiFi 6 is a useful improvement over WiFi 5 for homes with many people and lots of devices, WiFi 7 is not yet essential.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

Yes, WiFi 7 is good to have in 2026 with faster services like your gigabit. Its just if you are already on WiFi 6 the difference may not be noticeable.

In reply to a post by adslmax:

seb

I am not 100% sure if it was thinkbroadband speedtest server issues with 2.5Gbps link using Cat5e ethernet from TP Link Archer BE230 (BE3600) as you can see it got bottleneck with Full Fibre 1000/115 below?

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/17682385484...

There is no bottleneck using 1Gbps link using Cat5e ethernet from TP Link Archer vx230v below:

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/17682077117...

Edited by adslmax (Tue 13-Jan-26 09:51:24)

In reply to a post by adslmax:

I just found out why......

Windows 11 throttling network issues.

In reply to a post by PCJM40:

I run Windows 11 and don't see any throttling through my connection. My BQM also doesn't show the massive spikes like your BQM, even when I'm downloading at a rate just over 112MBps.

Edited by adslmax (Tue 13-Jan-26 10:12:06)

In reply to a post by adslmax:

That's strange! Are you using W11 Version 25H1 or 25H2?

This is not the NIC. It’s Windows struggling with a single TCP flow.

Why Windows can be much worse on x1 than x6 (same hardware)

A speed test like TBB does two different things:
• x1 = one TCP connection trying to fill the pipe
• x6 = six TCP connections in parallel sharing the pipe

Windows in your run can’t keep one connection “open wide” (congestion window / receive window behaviour, pacing, and/or occasional loss/retransmit), so the single stream keeps backing off. With six streams, the test “cheats” around that: even if one stream is wobbling, the others keep the total high.

Linux, in your run, keeps a single flow stable, so x1 ≈ x6.

What typically causes exactly this pattern on Windows

These are the usual culprits, in practical order:
1. TCP autotuning or receive window limits not behaving well
• If autotuning is disabled/restricted, single-flow throughput collapses.
2. A filter driver messing with traffic
• VPN client, antivirus “web protection”, traffic shaper, “Killer”/OEM network suites, some firewall products.
• These can murder single-stream performance while multi-stream looks fine.
3. Offload / checksum / LSO settings interacting badly with the driver
• Less common than #1/#2, but real (especially Realtek 2.5GbE + some Windows drivers).
4. Browser-path effects
• TBB uses HTTP; the Windows browser stack + security hooks can differ vs Linux CLI tools.
• This usually affects shape and a bit of speed, but your x1 gap is big enough that I’d look at #1/#2 first.

Quick way to prove it (2 minutes, no guesswork)

On Windows, run in an elevated Command Prompt:

netsh interface tcp show global

Look for Receive Window Auto-Tuning Level.
• If it’s disabled or highlyrestricted, that can explain your x1 result immediately.

Also check if you’ve got any of these installed/enabled:
• VPN (even “off”)
• third-party AV web shield
• “network optimizer” / OEM suite

Those are classic single-stream killers.

If you paste the output of netsh interface tcp show global (just that), I can tell you straight away whether Windows is artificially hobbling the single TCP flow.

In reply to a post by adslmax:

In reply to a post by adslmax:

seb

I am not 100% sure if it was thinkbroadband speedtest server issues with 2.5Gbps link using Cat5e ethernet from TP Link Archer BE230 (BE3600) as you can see it got bottleneck with Full Fibre 1000/115 below?

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/17682385484...

There is no bottleneck using 1Gbps link using Cat5e ethernet from TP Link Archer vx230v below:

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/17682077117...

I just found out why......

Windows 11 throttling network issues.

Running on Linux using 2.5Gbps link using Cat5e ethernet from TP Link Archer BE230 (BE3600) with no bottleneck!

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/17682971055...

TBB Speedtest Linux v Windows 11
https://i.ibb.co/4RKB0xCL/Screenshot.png

In reply to a post by PCJM40:

Have you tried temporarily changing the link speed on the Windows 11 device from 2.5Gbps/Auto down to 1Gbps when connected to the TP Link Archer BE230 (BE3600) to see if the same issue happens.

In reply to a post by adslmax:

Running clean install of Windows 10 no third party apps on Windows Edge
Running clean install of Windows 10 no third party apps on Google Chrome
Running clean install of Windows 10 no third party apps on Firefox

Edited by adslmax (Tue 13-Jan-26 16:01:09)

In reply to a post by Taras:

just for fun.

linux, with 10gbit nic, to 10gbit switch then to 10gbit port on router, Router to ont is 2.5gb (since the ont is 2.5gb) both via ipv6

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/17683199384...

windows with 10gbit nic to 10gbit and then same as the above
https://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/17683202245...

interestingly the server has a lower spec'd cpu 😁 but that shouldn't matter

In reply to a post by adslmax:

Only one problem with Aquiss don't selling openreach 1600/115 but doesn't matter as speed is not everything we need mostly. 😀

In reply to a post by adslmax:

Look great.

Only one problem with Aquiss don't selling openreach 1600/115 but doesn't matter as speed is not everything we need mostly. 😀

In reply to a post by PCJM40:

In reply to a post by adslmax:

Only one problem with Aquiss don't selling openreach 1600/115 but doesn't matter as speed is not everything we need mostly. 😀

As long as you're happy with what you have now that is the main thing, Aquiss may make 1600/115 available in the future

In reply to a post by Taras:

In reply to a post by PCJM40:

As long as you're happy with what you have now that is the main thing, Aquiss may make 1600/115 available in the future

Aquiss may hold back depending on what OR says and OR's pricing with xgspon.

In reply to a post by PCJM40:

Just trying to give Max some positivity that they might as none of us know, not a problem for me as I personally wouldn't touch Aquiss with a barge pole, Wouldn't be surprised if they said the same thing about me

In reply to a post by adslmax:

I have no problem with Aquiss in the last 12 months with FTTC without any issues. Same with with FTTP now. Martin is a great guy. Always reply to my answered.

Edited by PCJM40 (Tue 13-Jan-26 17:04:27)

In reply to a post by PCJM40:

Thats good news Max Like you I am happy with my provider, I will end up paying less than £34 a month during my 2 year contract for a 900/110 (without a static IP) so that is a bonus.

In reply to a post by adslmax:

Sound like u are with Plusnet ISP if I am correct here? Good for u.

In reply to a post by seb:

Nothing on BQM should have changed with the site re-design.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

I wonder where it read and ingested that... I've seen plenty of Windows workstations and servers run (on symmetric LANs) without trouble. I worry ChatGPT and similar just suck up forums (like this) with no actual proof.

In reply to a post by Taras:

just for fun.

linux, with 10gbit nic, to 10gbit switch then to 10gbit port on router, Router to ont is 2.5gb (since the ont is 2.5gb) both via ipv6

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/17683199384...

windows with 10gbit nic to 10gbit and then same as the above
https://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/17683202245...

interestingly the server has a lower spec'd cpu 😁 but that shouldn't matter

In reply to a post by adslmax:

speedtest using Windows 7 https://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/17684011852...

In reply to a post by seb:

Is your service 1Gbps?

In reply to a post by seb:

We've had fun on servers with Intel cards working nicely in Linux but Broadcom not (10GE SFP cards--I forget the example but something like that)... quirks like this do exist and the average Windows user would be less knowledgable to avoid or fix them.

Also a test on a single Layer-2 LAN may differ from a transfer over Internet with different settings/MTUs, etc..

In reply to a post by PCJM40:

Your BQM still isn't looking great for FTTP, would be good if you could get to the root cause of those spikes. May be worth considering overlaying the BQM graph for several days to see if there is a pattern to it.

In reply to a post by adslmax:

Don't think can't do anything about it. The same spikes with my previous FTTC and G.fast and now with FTTP.

Edited by PCJM40 (Wed 14-Jan-26 18:57:51)

Edited by adslmax (Wed 14-Jan-26 21:54:09)

In reply to a post by adslmax:

I can see every two hours there is spikes on it

Edited by PCJM40 (Wed 14-Jan-26 22:40:03)

In reply to a post by PCJM40:

I was more concerned about the amount of 160ms spikes throughout the day apart from between 03:30 and 09:30.

In reply to a post by PCJM40:

There may be an innocent reason but if it was me I would want to understand why. May be make a note of when you do heavy downloads and compare that with the graph and see if they match up. Also you could check what devices you have connected to the FTTP router and while you still have your other legacy broadband connections move them all over to one of them and over time gradually bring them back and monitor between each to see if and when these spikes come back.

In reply to a post by Taras:

Is there extra padding on ipv6 vs v4 (not really ever looked into it)?

In reply to a post by candlerb:

In reply to a post by Taras:

Is there extra padding on ipv6 vs v4 (not really ever looked into it)?

The IP headers are 20 bytes larger on IPv6 compared to IPv4.

This gives you a maximum payload throughput on a TCP stream of ~942Mbps on IPv4, and ~928Mbps on IPv6.

In reply to a post by adslmax:

Sadly can't use Plusnet Hub Two for FTTP

I am getting sick of tired with some bloke from think broadband forum suggest my full fibre isn't great at all due to BQM spiked and too high latency. But I think it down to TTB server. Not my connection at all.

In reply to a post by PCJM40:

Haven't you already tried two routers? really these 160ms spikes are either caused by devices connected to the FTTP router or they are the ISP, I can't see them being caused by the Openreach infrastructure.

In reply to a post by PCJM40:

Sorry Max, I honestly thought I was helping but based on below comment you made today I won't say anything more about this.

I am getting sick of tired with some bloke from think broadband forum suggest my full fibre isn't great at all due to BQM spiked and too high latency. But I think it down to TTB server. Not my connection at all.

In reply to a post by adslmax:

In reply to a post by PCJM40:

Sorry Max, I honestly thought I was helping but based on below comment you made today I won't say anything more about this.

I am getting sick of tired with some bloke from think broadband forum suggest my full fibre isn't great at all due to BQM spiked and too high latency. But I think it down to TTB server. Not my connection at all.

The speed was fine but getting sick of tired about spiked 160ms on FTTP. I think I have to raised this with Martin, Aquiss to see what he say about this. But, If he says this is normal, then that's is fine by me.

In reply to a post by Taras:

You have had spiking on 3 different platforms from the graphs presented. Do what others have suggested and do a device removal untill you find out whats causing it. Or just live with it.

160ms isn't a problem unless you are gaming .......

Edited by adslmax (Thu 15-Jan-26 12:36:13)

Edited by adslmax (Thu 15-Jan-26 13:06:26)

In reply to a post by adslmax:

https://i.ibb.co/HTXzKBgr/18719371786.png (you can see download latency 15ms is fine but upload latency is pretty high at 96ms) as someone at Plusnet upload was spot on perfectly at 9ms see below:
https://i.ibb.co/sLCPSPq/fv8z0dv-md.jpg

1
23
4

/queue type
add kind=sfq name=sfq-default sfq-perturb=10/queue simple
add dst=pppoe-out2 max-limit=50M/330M name=nuc1 queue=sfq-default/default target=10.12.0.0/16,XXXX:XXXX:XXXX:XX00::/56

Edited by adslmax (Thu 15-Jan-26 18:44:27)

In reply to a post by Taras:

Candlerb, Adslmax isn't going to get that in a tp-link, but wouldn't QoS do the a very good job instead..

Edited by adslmax (Thu 15-Jan-26 19:54:11)

In reply to a post by Taras:

what dns servers are you using ?

In reply to a post by Taras:

what dns servers are you using ?

Edited by adslmax (Thu 15-Jan-26 23:13:47)

In reply to a post by PCJM40:

In reply to a post by adslmax:

Sadly can't use Plusnet Hub Two for FTTP

Haven't you already tried two routers? really these 160ms spikes are either caused by devices connected to the FTTP router or they are the ISP, I can't see them being caused by the Openreach infrastructure.

In reply to a post by adslmax:

I have now disabled all wireless on the router just one ethernet from 2.5Gbps to my pc with no other devices now just my pc See if there is no more spiked on BQM live.

Pretty stupid of TP LInk when disabled all WiFi it want to rebooting the router to take affect. Blimey!

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

Could be something interfering with the ONT or router,

Edited by adslmax (Fri 16-Jan-26 08:07:10)

In reply to a post by Taras:

what is the specs of the pc? is it a prebuilt from say hp/dell?

Edited by adslmax (Fri 16-Jan-26 09:49:23)

In reply to a post by adslmax:

Finally found out why it caused high spiked. The AMD Ryzen 3700x PC does doing it. But I did try on my old PC, Intel Sandybridge i7 2700K running on Firefox and the upload has now stopped high spiked from TBB BQM.

https://www.speedtest.net/result/18722609072.png

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/...

You can see both download and upload just low latency now.

Must have be better Intel ethernet network card on it than AMD ethernet network card.

Intel network card: Qualcomm Atheros AR8151 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (NDIS 6.20)

In reply to a post by Taras:

what driver version is the Realtek RTL8125B using?

In reply to a post by adslmax:

Seem Banger on Plusnet TBB BQM on his FTTP 1000/115 are lots better than mine on TBB BQM as it should be like this for any full fibre. https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/...

Oh well. I leave it for now. Will switch to Plusnet next year January 2027.

In reply to a post by Taras:

what driver version is the Realtek RTL8125B using?

Edited by adslmax (Fri 16-Jan-26 15:37:33)

In reply to a post by candlerb:

Don't change your provider because someone else's graph looks prettier than your graph.

Change to Plusnet if you want to save a bit of money - and don't mind being locked into a 2 year contract with price rises. But trust me, you're unlikely to get a better service than you get from Aquiss, and your graphs are unlikely to look any prettier either.

You'll also lose IPv6, and your static IPv4 address, but those things may or may not matter to you.

Edited by adslmax (Fri 16-Jan-26 16:05:26)

In reply to a post by Taras:

From memory you have two tp-link routers ........... which is being used atm and is causing the spikes - or are both causing it ?

In reply to a post by Banger:

Erm I don't know if it makes much of a difference and I am not sure how you have your setup configured but my PN Hub 2 is the point to respond to pings for the TBB Monitor. This takes my PCs out of the equation and using NOIP on the PN Hub. Maybe you could try enabling pings on your router?

Edited by adslmax (Fri 16-Jan-26 16:30:02)

In reply to a post by adslmax:

I am not sure what is NO-IP?

Edited by adslmax (Fri 16-Jan-26 22:02:35)

In reply to a post by jchamier:

Check with Aquiss when they are available; see if its just you or many customers. Could be they have a fault elsewhere.

In reply to a post by adslmax:

In reply to a post by Taras:

what dns servers are you using ?

Ah good point! How to check this?

Here is G.fast - still same on high spiked on latency (upload) so, I ruled out FTTP, nothing to do with FTTP now not caused any high spiked. Must be somewhere!!!! Maybe DNS server!

https://www.speedtest.net/result/18720759795.png

Edited by Zarjaz (Sat 17-Jan-26 12:27:56)

In reply to a post by adslmax:

Is anyone from Aquiss customers experience of slow fttp this evening as I don't want to end up blamed me think it was me moaned. But full fibre quality should be on higher level. This is the first time of slow speed tonight.

In reply to a post by aquiss:

Our NNis into BTW operate circa 25% of capacity of an evening (and 35% of a daytime). We have plenty of capacity.

In reply to a post by aquiss:

We don't and max has been told this already via our support desk.

In reply to a post by adslmax:

In reply to a post by aquiss:

Our NNis into BTW operate circa 25% of capacity of an evening (and 35% of a daytime). We have plenty of capacity.

Thanks for this. My daughter boyfriend was actually downloading heavily on his Xbox. She just told me this morning.

This is the reason for getting slower full fibre to half way.

Anyway case closed.

In reply to a post by aquiss:

Delightful

I'm not personally going to signup to another forum to correct the record, so if anyone would like to kindly do so, that would be most kind.

In reply to a post by adslmax:

Apology guys. I do get it now. If two devices downloading at the same time it mean it will split into two halves speed eg: 465Mbps each. If one device downloading on his own will be max speed at 930Mbps and if 5 devices are downloading sames time it will be reduced to 186Mbps each devices. Am I correct here?

In reply to a post by adslmax:

Apology guys. I do get it now. If two devices downloading at the same time it mean it will split into two halves speed eg: 465Mbps each. If one device downloading on his own will be max speed at 930Mbps and if 5 devices are downloading sames time it will be reduced to 186Mbps each devices. Am I correct here?

In reply to a post by adslmax:

As for G fast, FTTC, FTTP I have no idea why it caused spiked maybe to do with poor electricity in the house?

In reply to a post by DFScale:

In reply to a post by aquiss:

Delightful

I'm not personally going to signup to another forum to correct the record, so if anyone would like to kindly do so, that would be most kind.

Just looked at the thread in question and kitz has locked it. I think it is down to @adslmax to contact kitz and get the record put straight.

In reply to a post by aquiss:

Delightful

I'm not personally going to signup to another forum to correct the record, so if anyone would like to kindly do so, that would be most kind.

In reply to a post by aquiss:

Delightful

I'm not personally going to signup to another forum to correct the record,

so if anyone would like to kindly do so, that would be most kind.

Edited by FibreBubble (Sat 17-Jan-26 21:51:57)

In reply to a post by adslmax:

I can see every two hours there is spikes on it. Maybe the TP Link BE3600 caused it? see my arrow marks on it.
https://i.ibb.co/B5QY8tSS/Screenshot.png

Edited by adslmax (Sun 18-Jan-26 11:40:24)

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In reply to a post by PCJM40:

Sorry Max, I honestly thought I was helping but based on below comment you made today I won't say anything more about this.

I am getting sick of tired with some bloke from think broadband forum suggest my full fibre isn't great at all due to BQM spiked and too high latency. But I think it down to TTB server. Not my connection at all.

The speed was fine but getting sick of tired about spiked 160ms on FTTP. I think I have to raised this with Martin, Aquiss to see what he say about this. But, If he says this is normal, then that's is fine by me.

In reply to a post by adslmax:

Finally found out why it caused high spiked. The AMD Ryzen 3700x PC does doing it. But I did try on my old PC, Intel Sandybridge i7 2700K running on Firefox and the upload has now stopped high spiked from TBB BQM.
https://www.speedtest.net/result/18722609072.png
https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/...
You can see both download and upload just low latency now.
Must have be better Intel ethernet network card on it than AMD ethernet network card.
Intel network card: Qualcomm Atheros AR8151 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (NDIS 6.20)

In reply to a post by candlerb:

Don't change your provider because someone else's graph looks prettier than your graph.

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In reply to a post by adslmax:

Finally found out why it caused high spiked. The AMD Ryzen 3700x PC does doing it. But I did try on my old PC, Intel Sandybridge i7 2700K running on Firefox and the upload has now stopped high spiked from TBB BQM.
https://www.speedtest.net/result/18722609072.png
https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/...
You can see both download and upload just low latency now.
Must have be better Intel ethernet network card on it than AMD ethernet network card.
Intel network card: Qualcomm Atheros AR8151 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (NDIS 6.20)

You saying the high spikes are speed tests? That would make sense, but I'm a bit lost.

In reply to a post by aquiss:

Our NNis into BTW operate circa 25% of capacity of an evening (and 35% of a daytime). We have plenty of capacity.

In reply to a post by adslmax:

Martin from Aquiss suggest me to try plug ethernet direct to ONT to Windows PC using PPPoE without using any router to see if it doesn't affect any spike on it.

I only got two routers for FTTP is two of TP Link VX230v (That's still on spike on it) and TP Link BE3600 (That's still spike on it)

Does anyone know how to use LInux Mint direct to pc from ONT using PPPoE Login as I can't find it.

Edited by adslmax (Sun 18-Jan-26 11:57:32)

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Do u think it down to poor ethernet cable from ONT to Router (that supplied by TP Link with a short Cat 6A (say it on cable label) as it flat cable.