MW3 Lovers Only Thread...All about the Game

So here we are once again that time of the year when like it or not the biggest game in the industry is only hours from release.

So i thought i would start a thread [yes another ] since this game is only hours away if your intending to go out and purchase it Midnight.

Reviews are starting to come in from the lesser known sites,some giving it top marks and some giving it 8/10

Mines due with TNT tomorrow but according to my postman this morning he was delivering MW3 copies Saturday courtesy of Amazon [now thats a first].

So people let us MW3 fans rejoice our time is approaching so posts all your information,thoughts and opinions as soon as you get hold of your copy.

Here is a TOP MARKS REVIEW

Here is a AVERAGE REVIEW

Yep i never heard of either of them before and I'm more interested in the major gaming sites .

Edited by time2die (Mon 07-Nov-11 16:12:21)

Got the Tesco's email today £25 for MW3 if you buy a points/membership card at the same time. So an option for those who have not pre-ordered.

Am tempted, but considering how much I have played MW2 I just don't know if it is worth it

Could as easily get Dead Island or Rage, but then I wouldn't be playing with my friends

I do like the idea of the Elite stuff though

I will wait tills it cheap Just dont think these games merit the price.

Digital Download for £26.65 from here

Enter promo code MW3

Digital download and activated with steam for £26.65

I've already ordered my from play.com though - £36!

Edited by deleted (Mon 07-Nov-11 20:29:47)

Only 2 1/2 hours to go. Cant wait. Will leave it until 12 before I go to get the game to avoid the mayhem. Hopefully Game will have the people pushed out of the shop quickly so all moves with speed. I intend on being online by 1am for an all nighter!

Got my headset today. Supposed to have some free MW3 downloads but I'll leave them till tomorrow when the game arrives.
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In reply to a post by nredwood:

Am tempted, but considering how much I have played MW2 I just don't know if it is worth it

Could as easily get Dead Island or Rage, but then I wouldn't be playing with my friends

I do like the idea of the Elite stuff though

Go out be a devil and have some fun. don't bother with Rage its Pants but dead island is pretty decent.

Nutty hopefully i will see you Tuesday night or sometime after as i declined a midnight release and will have to wait until TNT turn up whatever they decide to on Tuesday.

Bei really interested to get your thought about the game if you are intending on playing it all of tonight,please post some thoughts and impressions before you go to bed on Tuesday.

Hoping to get an early finish today. As with all the best laid plans it probably won't happen though.

I normally go campaign first but tonight it will be survival mode straight from the off. Man it's gonna feel like a long day!
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Bought the missus some flowers yesterday, so she knows she is going to have to do one tonight. No interruptions with inane jibber jabber.
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Put the head set on and enjoy gaming heaven.

This is what you didn't see for BATTLEFIELD 3

I Wonder why it's so popular [the mind boggles ]

Bet the Mrs did not see the last sentence of that comment

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP9e-7Yp-j0

It looks like MW2 to me. I think calling it MW2.5 would have been generous...

As i have said why fix what is not broken and is loved by millions.yes it needs a graphical update and a few tweaks here and there but to me they nailed it with MW1 and I'm happy.

Yes, I will agree that they nailed it with MW1 (4 years ago).

Anyway Mr TNT just turned up and I'm as happy as Pig In @@@@

No wonder it was not sent with Royal mail as the hardened edition is at least 4 inches thick and this would not have fitted through the letterbox.

See you next November

What are your thoughts then mate? I have just whacked a new thread on the board as no one seems to be discussing it yet and it's been out for 13 hours!! We call ourselves a gaming forum eh!

In reply to a post by Jaxx281:

I have just whacked a new thread on the board as no one seems to be discussing it yet and it's been out for 13 hours

Thanks cos only T2D and mrnelster have bought it

I haven't even bought BF3 yet, I'm tending not to buy into the 'have it first' game anymore, had enough of beta testing so I leave it a couple of months and get it for £15 or less!

I would do that but by that point the majority of my friends will have moved on to "the next new thing" so I have to get it early if I want to play with those guys. Who am I kidding, I would still get it early anyway lol I don't begrudge £40 for the hours of gameplay I get. I do, however, begrudge it when I buy a game that is terrible and then try to take it back a week or so later and only get £8 for it (I'm looking at you Dungeon Siege 3....)

Well Jaxx my honest thoughts are this at present,played about 1 hour of single player part of the game which is really exciting and tense as expected from a MW3 game,not graphically brilliant with drop dead gorgeous graphics but nice all the same.

Its very much like playing MW1 and 2 to be quite frank which is not a bad thing but it could have looked better and they could have changed at least the interface,all loading screens are basically the same as previous MW games and so is the pacing and the structure of the game.

The skins on the guns from what i have seen so far seem a little chunky but that might just be me having a little nag but i remember thinking the guns looked well cool in both MW 1 and 2.

Played a little survival mode on my Todd and to me this is where the game shines and its extremely addictive which i new it would be because i love gears 3 horde mode and its MW take on that.

Not touched any other multiplayer part of the game which i will delve into later tonight with a few friends turtle beach headset at the ready.

But for the people that say it looks just like MW1 and 2 then i have to agree and i will admit that even though i love this game and previous games in the series there is no way they can do another MW in a few years with this engine even though it looks brilliant at certain parts of the game.

I do love drop dead gorgeous graphics and i know that this game is not really about that but the fast .frantic online action that MW is.

Will give you some more thoughts and opinions when i have played a lot more of survival and multiplayer.

Interesting so far! I also text my friend who has the day booked off to play it today, he said the campaign, spec ops & survival are fantastic but the online play is not very exciting at all so it will be interesting to hear your verdict.

I'm told that this sums it up quite nicely so far for MP.

First impression? If you sat me down in front of it and told me it was Modern Warfare 2, I wouldn�t know you were lying.

The only reason I would buy MW3 would be for the SP story line, I'm really not even slightly interested in the MP. But after 2 (I think on hard I did it the first time in under 5 hours), there's no way I will be shelling out if the SP is as short in 3. 1 was awesome, but also too short (less than 10 iirc), but loved every second of the SP. 2 just left me feeling ripped off.

Be interesting to hear, enjoy yourself

Just played a little bit of the game mode Kill confirmed and its very addictive and a great new game mode addition.

Its very hard to sum up at present the game is every little bit like the previous games and i guess that is the problem but I'm not really complaining.

Like Samson says if you came into a room and i was playing this you would think i was playing MW2 with a new map pack.

Obviously there is glowing Gold and Red Dog tags in the game Kill Confirmed and it plays really fast and frantic as ever but again its just like previous MW games.

Now the question is this a bad thing and did MW lovers like myself expect any massive changes and the answer is more than likely no.

But i will say this that i understand why people say its a updated map pack or call it MW 2.5 and im not going to argue because very little has changed and only more time spent with the game can i give you some more thoughts and impressions.

Its a Solid game and if you like fast action 60fps with basically the same graphics as 2 years ago and you enjoyed MW2 then its a game you have to get.

MW2 minus the hackers and Glitches and over powered kill streaks was one of my all time favourite games and at present this is where MW3 shines

If all of the above returned then you might as well be playing MW2 apart from the brilliant survival mode[worth the money just for this] and Kill Confirmed Online.

Needs some serious amount of online ranking up to give any more serious thoughts about how this has turned out,put it this way im not disappointed but at present I'm not completely blown away either.

This guys Paragraph sums it up in a nutshell taken from a average review of a site i quite honestly have never heard of.

Conclusion
Modern Warfare 3 has for many months been touted as the next evolutionary step for the FPS genre, sadly this isn�t the case, if anything Modern Warfare 3 is essentially just an expensive mission + map pack on a retail disk, while there are obvious changes in parts, it�s clear that the game is essentially an extension of the previous title, right down to the engine and formula.
While one could argue that you shouldn�t mess with a formula that works, at the same time you should not become complacent with a franchise just because previous iterations did exceptionally well, the downfalls aside though Modern Warfare 3 is a solid edition to the franchise and offers it�s fans many, many hours of fun online and off, and that�s what games are all about.

While i�m sure i�ll be banned from future review code for writing this review and COD Fans will want me lynched for this scoring, and no doubt the PlayStation 3 fans will want me 6 feet under for pointing out how bad their version is, the long and short of it is that Modern Warfare 3 is not reinventing the wheel, it�s simply throwing a spare in the back of the car and continuing down the same road it�s been on for years.

Oh This is something that will go against MW3 and was spotted by some eagle eyed player when doing the single player part of the game.

RECYCLED BUILDINGS FROM COD4

See guys i will post positive and negative things regarding this game no matter how much i love it.

Edited by time2die (Tue 08-Nov-11 16:30:31)

It's that the game? Great photo-realistic graphics but man, they really screwed up the good old COD formula.

admire your honesty T2D, I think I maybe justified in leaving this for a bit until its cheap

In reply to a post by time2die:

Mines due with TNT tomorrow but according to my postman this morning he was delivering MW3 copies Saturday courtesy of Amazon [now thats a first].

Haha! Amazon actually delivered my copy of BF3 on time. But to deliver early. Now there's a thing...

My sentiment exactly really. MW 1 was very good value and I replayed it a good few times and tried to get through on hard though I never completed it.

I only played MW 2 through once and I can't even remember that much about it except it was daft.

MW3 will only be of interest to me if it's at the right price and only then if the single player campaign is any good. So far, it's not sound too hopeful but I've yet to watch some of those other video links so might yet be tempted.

Thanks very much for taking the time to add this. I am quite tempted to sign up and download it right now. If it's a really good game then I just might!

I tend to wait for a few days to see what T2D has to say and if he's started complaining then it's not going to be looking good.

Cheers for that, it does sound like it is just an extra skin for MW2 and to be honest I got bored of it after a month or so, so for me it's a no go for a while until it is cheaper / preowned. I have to say though well done to COD for getting consistent purchases from a lot of players including myself for years, but competition is healthy and perhaps now Battlefield have ramped up their investment and marketing COD will do a hell of a lot more next year, which will be great for gamers all around.

No complaints from me really mate just more of the same type of game,its early days at the moment so i expect some more stuff will surface in a few days.

He gets home and it's there on the side, yeeeha!! Runs to living room. It's like a [censored] womens lib meeting.

That's me [censored] till 8.30 then. Brilliant.
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Thats what happens when one has a family ............I sat starring out the windows all this morning waiting for my early xmas present. and TNT turned up at 11.00am which is actually quicker than my postman.

I'm thinking that too

Plenty to occupy me at the moment and certainly in no rush

There is allot of talk on this thread , about waiting for the title to become cheaper or pre owned but history dictates that a COD title will hold its price and only really become cheap a few months before the next annual realise is about to come out .

Well after reading this thread so far I'm glad I didn't bother buying it
I imagine the hackers will be busy converting their MW2 hacks to work on MW2.5 so enjoy it while you can lads

At the risk of being stoned to death ("All I said was 'that bit of halibut is good enough for Jehovah'!"),
I love it. All I played last night was survival mode, (solo and online) and thought it was great fun.

I haven't played black ops in 3 months nearly, but there was no settling in period needed with the controls. Just a shame it's only 2 player. Maps are well thought out for twitch shooting as well.

Bad side, still getting lag even though I'm hosting a private game. That has to be poor net code. But since 2 or 3 days after release BF3 has been the same. At least I don't have to run a million miles after every lag kill to get back to the action. Not looking forward to going online proper though as it will be a proper lag fest. Got a couple of texts from my mates late last night fuming about the 30 -1 scores ruining most games again. It seems fast connections don't count for much with DICE or IW.
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Survival is brilliant fun and so is the new Team based game Kill Confirmed.

I enjoyed the SP of both MW1 and MW2. Bits of MW2 single player were very reminiscent of Generation Kill* (no bad thing!).

*You have all watched that series right?

Yea this concerns me too - they don't drop price like many games:/

And after reading your first initial post and impressions regarding Battlefield 3 im glad it passed me by.

MW3 is a really brilliant game and the game mode Kill Confirmed is one of the best online game modes i have played.

There is no revolutionary Engine here with the most amazing graphics you ever will see but you have a very addictive online FPS with many modes and one hell of a lot of fun.

Call it MW 2.5 or whatever and its 95% similar to previous MW games just like Battlefield 3 and every other game that comes on to the market.

I dont see people coming on here complaining about Bioshock 2,Uncharted 3,Dead Space 2,Left for dead 2, and 100s of other sequels i could mention.

But people feel the need to have a go at Cod for whatever silly reason they can muster,we all agree it would be great with a new fancy engine but the game still plays really well and the graphics are very good but they have not advanced much from the last MW game.

The more i play it and Rank up and get some decent guns and perks and stuff the more i like it,because anyone that plays these games knows that basically the first few days when we are all noobs and people are on like Rank 40 within hours with ACR Assault guns and you have the basics.

People must play all day and all night and don't touch nothing but online multiplayer when i prefer to finish the single player game first,then as we all know some have had the game at least 2 or 3 days early so there is a lot of catching up to do.

After reading a few reviews of the game, its a MW2 map pack with more game modes added on to a arcade shooter.

FOV is extremely poor but then its designed for consoles and not pc showing the lack of pc support but thats always been the case after COD4. Console hardware is the cause of this, IF couldnt even add in the option to increase fov for pc users.

Ranking is all done via p2p, another console invention which is what made mw2 so [censored].

Online servers via the server brower that are all unranked, so you have to go through the nightmare that is p2p to rank up.

Killstreaks that now have 3 paths to get them that then let you run away with the game, jugernauht suit that makes you pretty much invincible.

Graphics that look extremly poor but then thats due to the 7 year old Hardware of the consoles, how can they can be considered to be gd- graphic technology has moved on.

In the end MW3 is just a repackaged game with a few shiny mods to make people think its the best game ever, just what console players want from a game with acitvison laughing all the way to the bank as they have conned players to buy the same game again.

I take your point mate and you make a few interesting comments but it is what it is and its enjoyable all the same.

People are not conned as most gamers would have watched the video previews and read all the reviews over the past 6 months and basically we all new what we were getting just hoping for some major improvements that did not really turn up.

I doubt very much we will see this MW engine again and there are reports now doing the rounds that next years Cod developed by my least favourite guys [Treyarch] will be on the new Xbox 720 or whatever they end up calling it.

Read a report that this console will ship by year end 2012 and be announced and shown at next years E3

Next generation consoles are screaming to be released and with the new Nintendo next year there is no way Microsoft and Sony are going to play catch up.

jugernauht suit that makes you pretty much invincible.

I bumped in to someone earlier fully tooled up and managed to shoot them with the carbine so they aint that invincible.

I only play multiplayer and use a PC. All other modes are for people doing it wrong

The game itself is clearly built entirely on MW2. The files, configs and general look are pretty much the same. If you looked at a folder on a PC containing MW2 and one containing MW3 they're almost indentical. They've changed the menus around, beefed up the sound (guns sound a lot more powerful and loud) and I think they've made the graphics ever so slightly better but for all intents and purposes it's the same sort of stuff.

The developers have clearly focussed their efforts on the new maps, game modes, weapons and pointstreaks. In short they've spent their time on stuff you use rather than stuff you look at. The results are pretty spectacular. I've spent quite a few hours playing it online now and I've been laughing my ass off at times at how good it is.

Kill Confirm mode is just mega fun. Basically you can't sit still for very long or you'll get shot in the back. It's fast and frantic. If you do manage to find a little spot to camp in, you're likely to get some kills from guys running around clueless. Do you rush for the tags or sit and wait? It's a dilemma sometimes. But it's a simple tactical depth that the old game lacked.

Team Defender is more of the same but in a slightly different way. Just fast and frantic but more focussed. Only played it a few times but the flag tends to end up in one part of the map and both sides just swarm after it.

Having dedicated servers on the PC and making them unranked, frankly, is a master stroke. Whoever thought it up needs a medal. Since the news came out that it was unranked the abuse has been relentless. People have said they'll boycott the game over it but once you play it makes perfect sense. If you like ranking up like before do it through matchmaking. It's not perfect but the player numbers are high so you usually get a good game and decent enough ping. But for dedicated servers you can create 5 of your own classes, straight away, using any weapon or unlock. No waiting around to Level 80 to get the RPG - just enable it and jump into a server and use it. I think if they'd made server play ranked it would end up like MW1, which is a great game, but full of "pros" who have everything and destroy more casual players with ease. In MW3 allowing everyone access to every item/weapon works a treat.

At the end of the day it gives people a choice too. You can choose to unlock stuff but when you get tired out it's nice to just pick a game mode, map and server and go and blast around using any pointstreak, perk or item.

The pointstreak system is really well thought out. Having 3 different classes of pointstreak each with benefits and advantages really helps. If you're a bit of a camper or just really good at aiming you can still benefit from the older style "assault" streaks with helicopters and AC130's etc. If you're more of a rush type player who tries to complete more objectives but therefore dies a bit more trying to do them, the support streaks, which don't reset when you die, are great.

The weapons seem varied and some do appear to be overpowered. L118 sniper appears to not even need to be aimed (been killed quite a few times by people using it who haven't even scoped) and the UMP is a beast. I understand this happens in all games and usually after some extended play and feedback, patches help balance it a bit more.

The maps all appear to be a bit more complex than in MW2. They seem a little more "maze-y" with more paths. Quite a number are a lot more vertical with underground sections, buildings, windows and staircases galore which mean you do end up getting attacked from all sorts of directions. I suspect that, in time, I'll learn the maps better and get a feel for them which will make them feel "simpler".

The new items like bouncing bettys, turrets, remote drones and stuff like a portable scrambler or portable radar really add extra elements and tactics to the game. In MW2 you were more limited to grenades and some explosives but there are definitely more options now.

Hit detection feels better and when playing on a server it's definitely sharper. Literally "BOOM YOU'RE DEAD".

Overall the changes made make this game everything MW2 should have been. Most of it's flaws and failings seem to have been intelligently addressed and their are plenty of fun new modes (Kill Confirm and GunGame for example) which are great laughs. The game is definitely more tactical and less focussed on camping to get your killstreak built up.

I do wish they'd made the graphics a touch better. It's not that it looks bad or anything. It just doesn't feel like much time was spent, or available, on doing much beyond a few new models and small graphical elements. The plus is that it should run as smooth as silk on anyone with a fairly decent computer.

I only play multiplayer and use a PC. All other modes are for people doing it wrong

That's all I want to play, but until someone tells me how to fix the host lag problem it's not even worth trying. It's so bad I have to quit and that ruins everybody elses game.

The private matches have everything unlocked from the start aswell and I agree it is a stroke of genius. Gun Game was the best part of BLOPS and we've already had a right laugh with it on some of the new maps.

As you said, loads of paths makes it extremely high octane and learning them will be far more difficult than the previous games.
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Haven't had much lag myself. Occasionally it'll dump you into some [censored] host but only rarely. You should make sure you change the settings in config_mp.cfg so you only connect to nearby hosts.

Go to your steam folder > steamapps > common > cod mw3 > players2 and open config_mp.cfg.

CTRL+F to find "seta cl_maxPing" and change it to something like 200.
Then find "seta cg_ScoresPing_MaxBars" and change it to 10
Then find "seta cg_ScoresPing_Interval" and change it to 20. Then each ping bar will be worth 20ms. If you have 8/10 bars your ping is like 40. If you only see 1 bar you know it sucks.

Servers are superb unless you fail to select one in the same hemisphere - in which case you're a rookie

Edited by orly (Wed 09-Nov-11 19:37:04)

I'm stuck with matchmaking on a PS3.........please don't mock me for my sins.

With a 7ms ping everybody's a lagger! I'm hoping interleaving will become available and increase my ping slightly. Won't hold my breath though.
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And there are lots of reports of server issues and error codes preventing people from getting online this afternoon / evening.
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I am very disappointed with MW3 multi player , as you have said there are some excellent new game modes but the thing that gets me the most is there are loads of maps at realise of MW3 but they all play exactly the same , there is no variation , there is no need to change tactics . Play the same Gun the same class , the same everything and charge round like a headless chicken spraying anything that moves with your P90 .

i play console and at this moment in time i have genuinely enjoyed the challenge of BF3 over the repetitiveness of MW3 .

Also I'm a older gamer and cant be having , no other tactic other than , fastest reaction time . Which even if you do have the fastest reaction time , MW3 P2P game hosting needs to change , I'm dedicated servers all the way now .

I need to be challenged , I need to work out the best way of playing a map . MW3 its just pure Run & Gun , that's the one and only tactic you need , all maps , all game types .
Now I know meny are loving the feel of the guns and the fluid fast movement , as i am also , its just the repetitiveness of everything .

Got 30 days to get to first prestige and if my opinion has not changed i will be sending the game back . Never thought i would ever be considering , doing that with a COD title !

Edited by deleted (Fri 11-Nov-11 18:56:58)

Personally i love it and its exactly what i expected and Kill Confirmed is excellent addition,trading in the game would never be a option for me until something way better comes along and i doubt it will be Treyarch Cod game next year.

The maps i think are very good but still to many camping spots for my liking but the Kill Confirmed stops this a little.

Sorry to hear that you are not enjoying it but you can not please everyone all of the time, why don't you try playing demolition as its far more tactical and not so fast as Kill Confirmed and a few other modes.

Definitely not true.

Compare a map like Resistance to Seatown for example. On Seatown it's so close quarters you should probably be using the striker shotgun as it's lethal. Try running and gunning with it on Resistance and you're in a world of disappointment.

Edited by orly (Fri 11-Nov-11 23:49:22)

Still as unplayable as MW2 and BLOPS for me. Perhaps 1 game in 20 they die when you shoot them. And the delay is around one second. Funny that, as I'm hosting.

I'll stick to spec ops.
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I know I've asked the question a few times matey but i struggle to understand why someone with such a fast connection and very low ping has so much trouble when playing online games.

Could you try and explain it in very simple terms as i am so curious and every time i see your connection issues the mind boggles to understand why.

If if you told me you were like 5 miles from the exchange and your download speed was half a meg it might make a little sense to me , is it because your connection is that good this is why you are having the problems matey

It's an enigma isn't it? You would think the opposite. Bare in mind mate that my only technical qualification is my suffering! But very few people even attempt to pass comment as it seems a deliberate lack of information is maintained by the developers in the mist part.

PC sever administrators as you probably know, can introduce compensation codes to try to remove host advantage. With a 7ms ping that will be applied to me with virtually every other player in the game. It is sometimes noticeable even on dedicated servers, but that's just online gaming. You will never completely remove that.

But on COD it has always been atrocious. Mercenary TDM is supposed to help by stopping players inviting people into their party with terrible lines. But that isn't much better because the matchmaking is so poor.

When I go to a mates house, he has four 42"'screens and we set up our playstations for LAN. Two of the players I can smash into oblivion with one hand tied behind my back, the other player is about the same level as me or maybe a tad better on his good days! When we go online all three out play me 10-1. They tell me that I am stood shooting at thin air and that the player is long gone. I tried kill confirmed last night. One game was reasonably good fun. The rest of the games were ridiculous. I would run over tags and not collect them. When I turned round there us a team mate behind me. The delay seeing him as getting their before me.

I would love for someone to tell me it was fixable but I dont think it is mate. And most of the players winning games, aren't. The mid table players are probably as good if not better. But ego's mean the status quo gets defended. I'm not the best player in the world, but on LAN I am between 2-3 K/D and 20-25% accurate. Online against the same players that drops to 0.5 and 7%.

I once posted a link previously that shows a debate on a guy with superb stats. He clocks an issue that he thinks might explain why he finds it so easy to kill players. What do the fellow members do? Accuse him of cheating. Better that than admit they might not be quite as good as they think they are. I can't find the link at the minute, but this one from JD_2020 from Treyarch is enlightening on their "that'll do" approach.

"Hey JD_2020, when I play Black Ops people are jerking and skiing around the map and when I shoot someone all the bullets go through them".

JD_2020 "What a lucky guy, you have the worst connection and therefore are at a huge advantage".

http://boards.ign.com/call_of_duty/b6860/199036765/p1
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P.S. You're more than welcome to come and try for yourself if you want!

It will completely change your perception of connection requirements for a good experience mate.
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On the PC it's possible to change the ping indicator so it shows more bars with a smaller interval representing each bar.

By default if you play on the PC or consoles you get 4 bars to represent the ping. Each bar is worth 100ms. Therefore anyone with 4/4 can have a ping from a normal-ish 30-40ms up to 99ms. 3/4 bars can be as high as 200ms. You'd not normally assume that though, as 3/4 is a nice enough green colour and looks good on the surface. 200ms in reality is pretty [censored] for gaming. If you see anyone with 1 or 2 bars it's probably a lost cause.

So on the PC I upped my count to 10 bars and set the interval to 20ms. Essentially anyone above 200ms is shown as a small, solitary red bar. In nearly every game at least 1 person is like that, lagging around. Many people have around 3-5 bars (ping is therefore something around 100-140ms. Not terrible but not brilliant. Another few will usually have closer to 7-8 bars which is a far more acceptable ping. This is why the feeling of bullets missing tends to be higher.

On the PC you luckily get the option of dedicated servers which tell you a numerical ping in the browser before you connect. So if enough people actually bother to read that before they join, you can have games of 18 people where just about everyone has a ping of 120 or less which is similar to other online games. On dedicated servers for the PC the game feels a lot sharper.

I posted the other week about not bing able to get on to Battlelog on the PS3. I don't know if anybody else has managed it?

Sonu though t I'd look into the free MW3 Elite service aswell, and guess what? Haven been able to log into that since registering. Still at least they can use my personal information for marketing purposes.

How about you on the premium service mate, you been able to utilise it?
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No mate i registered when i got the game but every time i try and connect it keeps coming up Error and i think this is happening with the majority of users.

Not so sure exactly what I'm getting regarding the elite content but i think its just the downloadable content which is released each month at no additional costs.

Think i got into the stats page once when i first got the game because when i opened it i redeemed all the codes on the ticket of the hardened edition as i did not want to fuss about with them at a later date.

Not played it much believe it or not and it takes a long time to rank up and i find it extremely hard that already we have people 70 plus in rank and I'm on 20.

COD Elite is broken at the moment and they've admitted as much.

It doesn't exist at all yet for the PC but they're apparently working on getting running ASAP. Should be decent when it finally arrives but they'll need to be sharpish.

Lag compensation for the host is a nightmare, it makes the game unplayable. Make the host an equal by all means but to actually make the game worse for them being host is shocking, i just leave now if i am host, i am sick of getting hammered just because i have a good connection.

In reply to a post by Alnath:

Lag compensation for the host is a nightmare, it makes the game unplayable. Make the host an equal by all means but to actually make the game worse for them being host is shocking, i just leave now if i am host, i am sick of getting hammered just because i have a good connection.

I feel your pain, although I must admit it feels good for someone to corroborate my experience.

The real irony is that said connection makes the game ultimately playable for everyone else.
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I have to agree. On Monday night they were alledgedly updating the servers and updating xbox dashboard at the sametime around 11pm to appease the american market (timings) This caused me having to reboot the xbox 3 times before I could get a game as did everyone else. It was like trying to play on a dialup connection ( not that I have ever tried it) I really enjoy the game but the compensated lag is really rediculous. At some point in the game all goes well and people you shoot drop as expected in hardcore but then if your team starts to clean up it reverses and our team finds our bullets are flying straight through our opponents and they shoot you with one shot. This really pis*** me off! I will still play thegame but have been tempted to go back to BO to relieve my frustration.

T2D I will get a game with you hopefully at the weekend and like yourself I have only got into elite once and that was to register all the codes. Since then squat!

When FTTC speeds are raised (if the rumours are correct) next year, living within 50-100m from my cabinet I could see speeds of 60-80meg and still won't be able to play the game, while people with 1 meg will.

I think what you are experiencing is about normal for all COD games. BLOPS was just as bad for me. By unplayable I mean hosting and going down 0-9 within a couple of minutes. Quitting is the only option!
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I see you online mate so i guess your with mates so i don't bother you and I'm happy just going in to any Kill Confirmed maps and playing a little solo Survival because it does not seem to like finding another player.

I really love the game but like i said its very much MW2 if i was to be critical but since i loved that game there is little to moan about.

I had the connection issues the other night and basically thought thats it for me so stuff it,no point hanging around trying to connect to a game when all the button options take ages to respond and its jumping all over the place with intermittent music .

Dont worry Nutty about games mate its not a problem because at the end of the day I'm happy playing regardless of who else is logged in or not.

Anyway i see you play search and destroy and i think and i don't play that mode and besides Zelda turns up tomorrow so i am guessing if i get into that then MW3 will be put on the back burner for a while why i concentrate on my beloved Zelda and then some saints row.

still refused Battlefield 3 and never bothered with the new assassins game as i just have far to much to keep me busy for many months to come.

So whats it to be matey MW3 or Battlefield because apart from all your connection problems i have yet to see you give any thoughts and opinions about MW3.

Does it play really [censored] and that is why you have not left any comments regarding the game.

No probs. If you are interested and there are only a few of us I will send you an invite. We mainly are playing hardcore domination as thats were the points are and I hate timed respawns.

I hope to give the game a bit of a thrashing over the weekend so hopefully will see you then.

I will percivere at this for another while as I dont see any games due for release to tempt me

The MP does play completely [censored] on my connection so it's not fair for me to comment really.

As for spec ops I love it and spend most of my time on Survival. I think it has had a minor graphical upgrade and sounds great too. I think there is a little more realism in the gun handling than in previous incarnations but that might just be me. Either way it feels slightly more challenging from that perspective.

The maps I think are excellent. From the games I have played Online there seems to be a massive reduction in Snipers which is a good thing in my opinion. Learning these maps is very difficult and is promoting proper high speed run and gun, which is after all what Modern Warfare is all about.

Started the campaign mode and what can I say. It puts the BF3 campaign to shame in my opinion. Going to have another go at finding a decent server on BF3 tonight. If not, it will be more Survival mode for me.
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Yeah i can quite happily load up MW3 and play survival all night on my own,even tried a few spec ops challenges and they were really intense and great fun also.

Hardcore domination ..........You really must be up to speed.

Like mrnelster says its very fast and frantic run and gun game play with little snipers or camping especially in kill confirmed.

Tired eyes ,tired body I'm yet to really get up to speed and need my ACR.

Can be remedied on the PC by altering your config to only allow connections to host where the ping is less than a number you define.

The default, which I assume is the same on all platforms, is a comical 800ms. I switched mine a more reasonable 150.

My mate and I were duly matched into a game with 4 people from N.Ireland. Was fine.