[THREAD CLOSED] Swish Fibre - anyone using?

Edited by seb (Sun 21-May-23 21:32:26)

In reply to a post by nofappingway:

It's an fibre connection that plugs directly into their provided GPON TPLink Archer router (which can be put into Bridge mode if required). There's no ONT.

Lots of Swish activity where I am too. Their infrastructure was installed down my road back in March but it's still not live. They originally told me go live was May but clearly something has happened to delay that.

Very happy with HB, would recommend them.

In reply to a post by batfastad:

5) What is the connection that arrives into the property... is it fibre LC/SC or cat5/6 RJ45?

6) I assume this will be a closed-access network until an inevitable merger/aggregation by a larger operator in some years? I assume there isn't a national infrastructure/duct sharing agreement in place at this stage.

There was also a flyer for another fibre provider Hey!Broadband a few weeks ago. I would be interested to know if there's some sort of agreement between Swish and Hey! to share infrastructure or if we are in for another session of "Mr Bull: we're digging up the road"

Edited by Pheasant (Wed 02-Jun-21 09:22:44)

Edited by Swish_Fibre (Thu 15-Jul-21 12:54:30)

In reply to a post by Swish_Fibre:

5) What is the connection that arrives into the property... is it fibre LC/SC or cat5/6 RJ45?
10 Gbps XGS-PON SC/APC connector

Edited by deleted (Fri 16-Jul-21 13:10:49)

In reply to a post by Pheasant:

In reply to a post by Swish_Fibre:

5) What is the connection that arrives into the property... is it fibre LC/SC or cat5/6 RJ45?
10 Gbps XGS-PON SC/APC connector

Adtran ONT?

In reply to a post by batfastad:

Thanks for the update Swish_Fibre!
An IPv6 estimate of under 12 months is great news. I'd be absolutely happy to test as well if I can get signed up soon after we move.

The actual connection into the router still confuses me somewhat. My router is an EdgeRouter ER-X-SFP so I can easily throw an SFP/GBIC of some flavour into the SFP port.
From what I understand most domestic FTTP/GPON connections require an adapter (ONT?) to take the physical fibre connection, perform some de-mux/auth, then output ethernet.
Is the ONT provided as a separate unit to the router by ISPs?
So even though I have an SFP socket, I imagine I still use the ISP's ONT then GbE to my router.

Cheers, B

In reply to a post by nofappingway:

@Chris at Swish Fibre - When do you guys plan to go live with your Gerrards Cross deployment? Your website has said register to pre-order since March-21.

In reply to a post by omegapoint6:

@Chris Do you have any planned dates for Bourne End yet? I've been able to pre-order but not had an indication of any timeframe yet

In reply to a post by juzzy25:

Just had a letter through the door about Swish Fibre digging up my road in Beaconsfield, and like clockwork they've been working quick!!

I'm out of contract on Sky Broadband, had a chat to the workmen (super friendly guys) and there digging out and doing my road for Swish.

Do you know when parts of Beaconsfield will go live, I'd rather not give out my address on the forum, but I'm tempted. (I reckon I could do battle with a mobile broadband SIM for a couple of months)

In reply to a post by Axel1975:

Hi Chris,

Farnham resident here, and excited to see the Swish roll out progressing. I had a very attractive pre-order offer (12 month reservation with no obligation) that I've taken up.

A few questions, please:

1. I've read on Swish's Facebook page that Swish provides Plume Superpods as the main router and additional pods (Mesh) as needed. Is the Superpod the newer WiFi 6 hardware version?

2. I've also read (same source) that Swish is "currently reviewing our main router offering". Any more information that you're able to share (any decision on new equipment; timeframe)?

3. I'm aware that Swish allows customers to use their own routers. Any known issues with Netgear Orbi Mesh systems? I've been using a RBK50 system for about 4 (mostly hassle-free) yrs now and would need a compelling reason to change (for example, WiFi 6).

Many thanks in advance for your help.

1. I've read on Swish's Facebook page that Swish provides Plume Superpods as the main router and additional pods (Mesh) as needed. Is the Superpod the newer WiFi 6 hardware version?

2. I've also read (same source) that Swish is "currently reviewing our main router offering". Any more information that you're able to share (any decision on new equipment; timeframe)?

3. I'm aware that Swish allows customers to use their own routers. Any known issues with Netgear Orbi Mesh systems? I've been using a RBK50 system for about 4 (mostly hassle-free) yrs now and would need a compelling reason to change (for example, WiFi 6).

In reply to a post by smouty:

Hi Chris,
I have just received an email that SWISH is coming to GU34 (Alton) but I see no details regarding this on the website.
Looking to move from BT 80/20 in Aprl 2022 to 400/400 offering.

Have also emailed sales regarding this.

Anthony

In reply to a post by BlueWave97890:

Hello Chris,

Can you make a similar rough estimate for Bagshot? The website says Build Underway, but I've not seen anything yet

Edited by Swish_Fibre (Tue 09-Nov-21 17:15:58)

Edited by juzzy25 (Mon 15-Nov-21 12:58:16)

Edited by BlueWave97890 (Tue 16-Nov-21 08:45:37)

In reply to a post by stu3:

I have another connection at a different location on which the router has a public address, but this is additionally natted within the providers network

In reply to a post by candlerb:

In reply to a post by stu3:

I have another connection at a different location on which the router has a public address, but this is additionally natted within the providers network

Are you *sure* it's a public address? If it's in the block 100.(64-127).x.x then it's actually a special sort of private address - a block reserved for exactly the purpose you describe, where the provider performs NAT in their own network. However, it's also not unknown for clueless providers to use random blocks of addresses that they don't own, behind NAT.

Try entering your WAN address into a "whois" server to find out who owns it.

Edited by stu3 (Mon 29-Nov-21 18:23:07)

In reply to a post by stu3:

Does Swish Fibre issue a 'real' public address to the router on their connections?

In reply to a post by gkw:

In reply to a post by stu3:

Does Swish Fibre issue a 'real' public address to the router on their connections?

Yes if you pay them £3/month for a static IP (See their assigned ranges at https://ipinfo.io/AS208189). Otherwise it's CGNAT.

In reply to a post by smouty:

I’m assuming that DDNS will still work?

In reply to a post by j0hn83:

In reply to a post by smouty:

I’m assuming that DDNS will still work?

It may partly work, as in it may give you a fixed IP/hostname.
It won't help with any of the routing issues associated with CGNAT though.

Your IP is shared with other users. Presumably those other users IP would also point to your DDNS.

In reply to a post by smouty:

That is a showstopper for me. I did originally have CGNAT on BT but could disable it for free. I don’t see that you have to pay extra for a static IP to resolve this is an acceptable solution.

Edited by nofappingway (Mon 17-Jan-22 14:19:21)

In reply to a post by smouty:

For these ONT terminated services, does the router need to do any auth or is that taken care of by the ONT?

Edited by Pheasant (Tue 18-Jan-22 09:16:47)

In reply to a post by RR_The_IT_Guy:

Would it be possible if a mod could tag this username as an ISP for the forum.

In reply to a post by baukhorse:

What do they charge for static IP? I had one for free from Plusnet for years now and have gotten used to it. I wish swish was a bit more transparent on pricing...

was your speedtest from a wired 1Gbs ethernet?

In reply to a post by Maff1956:

Halian, I have a similar installation. My Swish Fibre is now live, but I have a new house with thick inpenetrable walls, so it is cabled throughout with Cat6. I have a TPLink 24 port Gigaswitch and patch panel. However, I cannot get the network working with the Swish Fibre. Fortnately, I haven't cancelled my Sky Broadband yet. The fundamental problem is that the Swish ONT has only one ethernet port and that is used for the wifi Plume.

I have tried disconnecting the Plume and connecting the Gigaswitch directly to the ONT without success. I also tried connecting the Gigaswitch to the secondary port on the Plume and every other combination I can think of, but it seems that the Gigaswitch ethernet network (which I have everything in the house connected to, including a series of BT WholeHome wifi disks) will not work with the Swish Fibre ONT.

I'm in touch with Swish technical support but they have not been able to solve it. I think I will have to throw out the Swish ONT and Plume and buy a 3rd party ONT with multiple ports that will work with the TPLink Gigaswitch.

Will another supplier’s ONT work with Swish and the Gigaswitch? If so, suggestions welcome.

In reply to a post by omegapoint6:

In reply to a post by Maff1956:

Halian, I have a similar installation. My Swish Fibre is now live, but I have a new house with thick inpenetrable walls, so it is cabled throughout with Cat6. I have a TPLink 24 port Gigaswitch and patch panel. However, I cannot get the network working with the Swish Fibre. Fortnately, I haven't cancelled my Sky Broadband yet. The fundamental problem is that the Swish ONT has only one ethernet port and that is used for the wifi Plume.

I have tried disconnecting the Plume and connecting the Gigaswitch directly to the ONT without success. I also tried connecting the Gigaswitch to the secondary port on the Plume and every other combination I can think of, but it seems that the Gigaswitch ethernet network (which I have everything in the house connected to, including a series of BT WholeHome wifi disks) will not work with the Swish Fibre ONT.

I'm in touch with Swish technical support but they have not been able to solve it. I think I will have to throw out the Swish ONT and Plume and buy a 3rd party ONT with multiple ports that will work with the TPLink Gigaswitch.

Will another supplier’s ONT work with Swish and the Gigaswitch? If so, suggestions welcome.

Is the Gigaswitch one of these (https://www.tp-link.com/uk/business-networking/unmanaged-switch/tl-sg1024/)? If so it is just a basic network switch, so you need a router between the ONT and the Gigaswitch. The ONT itself does not act as a router.

Does a device work when connected to the Plume's ethernet port directly?

In reply to a post by baukhorse:

What do they charge for static IP? I had one for free from Plusnet for years now and have gotten used to it. I wish swish was a bit more transparent on pricing...

was your speedtest from a wired 1Gbs ethernet?

In reply to a post by Swish_Fibre:

In reply to a post by batfastad:

Thanks for the update Swish_Fibre!
An IPv6 estimate of under 12 months is great news. I'd be absolutely happy to test as well if I can get signed up soon after we move.

The actual connection into the router still confuses me somewhat. My router is an EdgeRouter ER-X-SFP so I can easily throw an SFP/GBIC of some flavour into the SFP port.
From what I understand most domestic FTTP/GPON connections require an adapter (ONT?) to take the physical fibre connection, perform some de-mux/auth, then output ethernet.
Is the ONT provided as a separate unit to the router by ISPs?
So even though I have an SFP socket, I imagine I still use the ISP's ONT then GbE to my router.

Cheers, B

No problem at all.

Feel free to DM me when you go live and we can talk further about IPv6.

The ONT is currently a separate/mandatory unit.

https://postimg.cc/G8XP3MqF
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Chris
Swish Fibre Team

In reply to a post by baukhorse:

Are Swish more "accessible", responsive and supportive after actual activation?
I got the first communication since December over 2.5 weeks ago in an email saying Swish would be in touch "Next Week" with details of a free gift and news, but heard nothing.
The build updates page for my area is a month out of date and the website is very limited on general information.

In reply to a post by Swish_Fibre:

PM me your details baukhorse and I'll be happy to look in to any queries you have.

Thanks.

Chris
Swish Fibre Team

In reply to a post by dect:

In reply to a post by Swish_Fibre:

PM me your details baukhorse and I'll be happy to look in to any queries you have.

Thanks.

Chris
Swish Fibre Team

Chris, have you contacted Seb about becoming a recognised ISP on this forum as it would support your authenticity.

In reply to a post by Swish_Fibre:

Yes, I reached out a couple of weeks back, but have yet to hear back.

Chris
Swish Fibre Team

In reply to a post by jpm:

I would like to see Ofcom mandate IPv6 where networks are defaulting to CGNAT for IPv4.

Edited by Chrysalis (Sat 12-Feb-22 10:46:22)

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

This is what I would like to see ofcom do.

Anything below 90% of utilisation of IPv4 added to pool ran by ofcom (below 96% if IPv6 not rolled out on network to force a business case for IPv6) , they can redistribute to isp's that need them.

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

Require IPv6 to be running to allow a request for IPv4 allocation.

In reply to a post by candlerb:

That policy kind-of did exist at RIPE for a while. However it was pointless and I believe was dropped. All you had to do was request an IPv6 block. Even if you were forced to announce it via BGP, that doesn't mean you're using it for anything of value. Maybe you just make your ISP's home page available by IPv6, and nothing else.

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

In regards to available IPv4, there is enough unused IPv4 been hoarded.

In reply to a post by dect:

In reply to a post by Swish_Fibre:

Yes, I reached out a couple of weeks back, but have yet to hear back.

Chris
Swish Fibre Team

I have just raised it in TTTS to see if it can be progressed subject to any checks/verification

Edited by Chrysalis (Mon 14-Feb-22 11:27:50)

In reply to a post by dect:

In reply to a post by dect:

In reply to a post by Swish_Fibre:

Yes, I reached out a couple of weeks back, but have yet to hear back.

Chris
Swish Fibre Team

I have just raised it in TTTS to see if it can be progressed subject to any checks/verification

Hi Chris, looks like you have now been elevated. Keep up the good work

Edited by Swish_Fibre (Mon 14-Feb-22 17:08:08)

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

The problem is content providers are not the problem, broadband isps are

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

Interesting that you really dont like the idea. You not even neutral on it, which has me curious.

In reply to a post by candlerb:

Right now, there are plenty of big content providers that are IPv4-only (like the BBC for example).

ping6 bbc.co.uk
PING6(56=40+8+8 bytes) {my IP} --> 2a04:4e42::81
16 bytes from 2a04:4e42::81, icmp_seq=0 hlim=58 time=8.237 ms
16 bytes from 2a04:4e42::81, icmp_seq=1 hlim=58 time=8.474 ms
16 bytes from 2a04:4e42::81, icmp_seq=2 hlim=58 time=8.500 ms
16 bytes from 2a04:4e42::81, icmp_seq=3 hlim=58 time=15.239 ms
16 bytes from 2a04:4e42::81, icmp_seq=4 hlim=58 time=8.525 ms
16 bytes from 2a04:4e42::81, icmp_seq=5 hlim=58 time=8.035 ms
16 bytes from 2a04:4e42::81, icmp_seq=6 hlim=58 time=8.216 ms
16 bytes from 2a04:4e42::81, icmp_seq=7 hlim=58 time=8.239 ms

Edited by jchamier (Tue 15-Feb-22 10:22:06)

In reply to a post by jchamier:

Is it the same for www.bbc.co.uk ?

ping6 www.bbc.co.uk
ping6: getaddrinfo -- nodename nor servname provided, or not known

In reply to a post by billford:

That's what I thought, but:

ping6 bbc.co.uk
PING6(56=40+8+8 bytes) {my IP} --> 2a04:4e42::81
16 bytes from 2a04:4e42::81, icmp_seq=0 hlim=58 time=8.237 ms
16 bytes from 2a04:4e42::81, icmp_seq=1 hlim=58 time=8.474 ms

1
23
45
6

$ curl -v https://bbc.co.uk
*   Trying 2a04:4e42::81:443...* Connected to bbc.co.uk (2a04:4e42::81) port 443 (#0)
...< HTTP/2 301
< location: https://www.bbc.co.uk/

Edited by candlerb (Tue 15-Feb-22 11:21:54)

In reply to a post by candlerb:

So they are basically cheating to get a green tick on some "IPv6-ready" tester for their domain.

In reply to a post by candlerb:

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

The problem is content providers are not the problem, broadband isps are

I see it the other way round. Right now, there are plenty of big content providers that are IPv4-only (like the BBC for example). As a result, this forces the ISP to provide IPv4 (or dual-stack). And dual-stack doesn't give you access to any additional significant part of the Internet, so most ISPs are stilll IPv4.

However, once *all* the important content is dual-stack, then it starts to become plausible that people will go to IPv6-only broadband connections.

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

Interesting that you really dont like the idea. You not even neutral on it, which has me curious.

Which idea? I don't the idea of forcibly repatriating IPv4 blocks from one ISP to another, because it can't be done, and even if it could it wouldn't solve the problem.

IPv6 on the other hand I'm all in favour of - home network is very happily dual-stacked. But then I'm a techie so like playing with this stuff.

Edited by Chrysalis (Thu 17-Feb-22 15:16:25)

In reply to a post by Chrysalis:

Some isp's evidently are not going to bother until they forced to by a regulator or there is a fiancial gain from it.

In reply to a post by baukhorse:

Signed up in December, got an email saying "soon" and free gift "next week" in January and that's it...
I was originally worried that I'd have to pay 3 months on the plusnet because I have contract until March, but now it looks more like I'll have to overpay on Plusnet due to their out of contract cost being much higher.

digging is done, been some swish blokes in hi viz, park up and stare into the little boxes in the pavement but no indication of when it will get any further

In reply to a post by NOates:

There seems to be a big gap between Swish marketing and Swish delivery. Road outside in Farnham dug up in November for home installs starting Jan/Feb. Signed up straight away and got the direct debit email through. But the fibres have still not been blown through yet almost 5 months later. Recently had a couple of Swish guys walk up the road who said they were inspecting 'faults' and that the fibre and house installations would be starting 'soon'. Tried calling and hung up after 45 mins on hold. No response to emails. Did get the marketing email in January about a free gift 'next month'. Nothing. Starting to wonder if Swish actually exists!

In reply to a post by NOates:

There seems to be a big gap between Swish marketing and Swish delivery. Road outside in Farnham dug up in November for home installs starting Jan/Feb. Signed up straight away and got the direct debit email through. But the fibres have still not been blown through yet almost 5 months later. Recently had a couple of Swish guys walk up the road who said they were inspecting 'faults' and that the fibre and house installations would be starting 'soon'. Tried calling and hung up after 45 mins on hold. No response to emails. Did get the marketing email in January about a free gift 'next month'. Nothing. Starting to wonder if Swish actually exists!

In reply to a post by Thaumaturge:

On 19/4/22, a Swish Sales Executive emailed me that "Your property is aimed to go ready for service for 12/4/2022".

In reply to a post by Thaumaturge:

In a PM a the end of Feb, Chris from Swish on this Forum told me that my house was "indicated to go RFS (ready for service) October 2022". On 19/4/22, a Swish Sales Executive emailed me that "Your property is aimed to go ready for service for 12/4/2022". It's 22/4/22, and although I have a pre-order I haven't heard anything further.

In reply to a post by Swish_Fibre:

1) Does Swish support IPv6 natively? IPv6 is in development with plans to perform further testing with our early adopters in the next 3 months

In reply to a post by Wholegrain:

I'm trying to work out if I need to obtain a 12 month contract with someone as I'm in the 'Coming Soon' situation though can see planned works on one.network.

Edited by smouty (Fri 08-Jul-22 10:35:04)

In reply to a post by mikePR:

Well, I got half-installed today! (Princes Risborough)

I pre-ordered mid-May; contractors dug last trench in my street 15 June; sub-ducting completed about a week ago, and secondary node installed further up the street. I got a phone call on Tuesday, offering an installation for today (Thursday) - very impressive!

Colin and Colin came and did the installation from the Toby Pot into my house, installed the ONT, and proceeded to blow fibre from my house to the secondary node.

Lo and behold: dead! Secondary node hadn't been switched on! So now waiting for a date for them to come back and activate!

Disappointing, but initial response from completion of build very fast.

Mike

Edited by Pheasant (Mon 18-Jul-22 14:44:14)

In reply to a post by Thaumaturge:

If I persist with Swish I will almost certainly junk this load of rubbish and buy a proper router. Does anyone have any suggestions or recommendations, please?

In reference to www.swishfibre.com/faqs:

Yes you can use your own router and/or Wi-Fi system. If your router has a gigabit Ethernet WAN interface you can connect this directly to our ONT (Optical Network Termination) 10GE port using an Ethernet cable. For further information contact our Customer Care team on 0800 0489415 or [email protected]

In reply to a post by jchamier:

If your old Fritzbox has an Ethernet WAN port, you could use that?

In reply to a post by Thaumaturge:

5) It doesn't play nicely, or indeed at all, with one of my Raspberry Pi machines. DHCP doesn't seem to work, and it doesn't get assigned an IP address. This a bit of a bummer because the RPi runs headless, and without an IP address I can't SSH to it to see what's going on. I've put it back on my old Fritzbox 7530 router and it's perfectly OK. 3 other RPis (2 wired, one wifi) on the network are also all fine, and all four are running much the same Linux based OS, so why this one is being victimised I have no idea. Neither, at present, do Swish support, who are allegedly on the case, though to be fair it is still fairly early days.

Edited by Thaumaturge (Fri 26-Aug-22 10:30:46)

In reply to a post by Brunel:

But I'm distinctly unimpressed with the Plume Pod router they've supplied.

Could this be the same device that Virgin Media use as Wi Fi boosters?

https://getsupport.plume.com/hc/en-gb/articles/44058...

https://getsupport.plume.com/hc/en-gb/categories/440...

Edited by smouty (Fri 26-Aug-22 14:05:42)

In reply to a post by Thaumaturge:

Well, the day I thought would never, ever come finally did last Monday afternoon. 2 blokes from Swish installed a 400/400 FTTP connection. Installation was very straightforward, took a couple of hours, would have been less if the engineer hadn't left his laptop at the previous job and had to go back for it.

Experience so far is a bit mixed. It mostly works and I do get the advertised speed - a little over, in fact. But I'm distinctly unimpressed with the Plume Pod router they've supplied.

1) It's basically a mesh network hub - they want you to buy several of the things. My network is predominately wired, so it's not a good fit. There is only one downstream port on the router, so I now have to connect everything through my switch. This is fairly old box, it still works fine, but its ports are only 100M. So I now have a 400M internet connection throttled through a 100M switch. Previously I could connect the important devices on my network - my desktop, my wife's desktop, and our main NAS box, directly to the router at 1G, and only had less important stuff on the switch.

2) It plugs directly into a power socket. It's footprint is such that you can't use the neighbouring outlet(s) on a ganged socket - in my case 2 others are not usable, and I don't have many spare. Also all my sockets are low down by the skirting board - this inhibits finding a good spot for best wifi coverage. I had my old router on a shelf fairly high up which seemed to be best. I suppose I could put a 4-way extension up there, but I'm not keen on running a 240v cable up my wall.

3) It doesn't have a browser management interface. You have to manage it using a horrid app on a phone. This is grey on grey, uses very small size fonts, and at my advanced age I have considerable trouble reading it. Frustratingly, Plume do have a web app which I could use on my desktop screen, and enlarge to be easier to read, but when I tried to login to this it told me my account was not authorised to use it. It seems Swish can't or won't make it available to their customers here.

4) All the router stats and info are stored in "the Plume cloud", aka Plume servers somewhere, likely outside the jurisdiction of any GDPR rules etc. Both Plume and and Swish seem less than forthcoming about precisely what is collected, why, where it is stored, for how long, and how it is divvied up between Plume and Swish. There are examples, but I've not found a definitive list. One link* I followed on the Plume website to their Privacy Policy gave me a 404 error. Aside from the major privacy implications, it also means that without an internet connection the router can't be managed, and there aren't any status leds on it.

5) It doesn't play nicely, or indeed at all, with one of my Raspberry Pi machines. DHCP doesn't seem to work, and it doesn't get assigned an IP address. This a bit of a bummer because the RPi runs headless, and without an IP address I can't SSH to it to see what's going on. I've put it back on my old Fritzbox 7530 router and it's perfectly OK. 3 other RPis (2 wired, one wifi) on the network are also all fine, and all four are running much the same Linux based OS, so why this one is being victimised I have no idea. Neither, at present, do Swish support, who are allegedly on the case, though to be fair it is still fairly early days.

I'm on a 6 month free trial right now. If I persist with Swish I will almost certainly junk this load of rubbish and buy a proper router. Does anyone have any suggestions or recommendations, please? I'm not a power user, I don't game and I don't stream all that much. Wifi performance isn't that important, but I would like something with 4 genuine 1G ports on the back.

* https://support.plume.com/hc/en-us/sections/36000630...

In reply to a post by Pedrocks:

I signed up for Swish 4 weeks ago and I've heard nothing from them about an installation date.

In reply to a post by Pedrocks:

I signed up for Swish 4 weeks ago and I've heard nothing from them about an installation date. A few weeks back a team rocked up at my door to do some 'rodding' (putting a tube down the existing BT cable run) as they were in the area and after they left I've heard nothing more.

I've emailed the orders team and had no reply. I'm tempted to switch to Zzoomm as they appear to be active on my street now and work out slightly cheaper over the entire term.

Have other people had the same experience and issues with communication? - i just want fast broadband..

Edited by Andrue (Sun 23-Oct-22 13:25:39)

Edited by sen2479 (Mon 19-Dec-22 12:36:47)

In reply to a post by mikePR:

I am *now* happily using the TP-Link Archer C7 router - after Swish swapped out the ONT as it wasn't playing nicely with the router (see my earlier posts), and getting Gigabit Ethernet on all LAN ports.

Edited by smouty (Wed 08-Feb-23 14:39:55)

In reply to a post by smouty:

In the two years since preordering I also do not think the pricing is that competitive any more compared to Giganet for example: