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Post now continued on this thread a big thanks for the forum managers allowing the continuation of this discussion as I understand a lot of the other forum users have found this thread less than desirable to their needs.
Thanks it's a great help
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... as I understand a lot of the two other forum users have found this thread less than desirable to their needs.
Thanks it's a great help Fixed that for you, and I'm not one of the two.
The chap who opened the thread in TTTS had a point and accepted the decision. The one who is complaining about his taking-the-micky thread being closed got a very appropriate response from forum management.
I haven't checked in the just-closed thread where you are up to, but I wish you well, and the same to all the others looking for jobs with Openreach.
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Thanks RobertoS
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I haven't checked in the just-closed thread where you are up to, but I wish you well, and the same to all the others looking for jobs with Openreach. +1
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it was more than 2.
I hope to see a Quinn or Kelly thread and see if that's allowed to stay open as long.
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If its relevant to uk telecoms/broadband then no reason why it would not, and same for any large recruitment drive by other operators too.
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The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
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Its been very helpful for me from the first interview to this stage, its nice to be able to talk to others in the same position! Thanks all.
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I have to agree that's it's been some great insight and now I look forward to receiving my start date and possibly meeting some of you fellas
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Agreed as a long-retiree, it is interesting and reassuring to see how keen so many are to enter this specific field of employment.
I.m sure that some of the more recent descriptive postings from those that are now actively on the courses, are useful to those "somewhere" on the waiting lists.
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The TVs in Yarnfield now accept USB sticks? Wow. How times change!
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Very much so as last time i there we did not have TVs in the rooms , so more time to drink beer !
these comments are my own and in no way represent any company that i may or may not be linked too.
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I've just seen that plans have been approved for converting the Openreach training site in Harrogate into a residential area. I guess training won't be going on for much longer there...
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Oh really! I wonder what that means for the people waiting to start ? doesnt sounds to good..
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The main training site is near Stone, so it might not mean a lot for the initial training, but it might alter some of the follow-on stuff later.
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Sorry for the random reply to you but I have an update on the January training date. I've received my confirmations, my travel arrangements and today received my welcome and plan guide. The same email was sent to 8 of us. I'm from as south as south gets, eastbourne, near Brighton and it's looking like I'll be spending the whole 5 week training in yarnfield, which is strange as Croydon would be my nearest training centre. My guess is that the January course is a lot smaller than usual and in some ways has been rushed together as all my checks and tasks for employment were asked to be completed in 48 hours rather than the week it said on my job task. Not really sure what usually happens but all seems a little different than what it should. Take from that what you will and merry Christmas to you all
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Congratulations on your news, just in time for Christmas.
When did you have your assesment day?
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It's been a long process. Applied for the job mid August, heard back mid september, had my assessment on September 21st and got my email 22nd to say I had passed but there were no roles in my area. Finally received a job offer on the 15th of November and start 9th of January.
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Thanks for your reply wish you all the best on your new venture. I can't wait just hope everything goes as it should and I'll be a happy man.
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well its finally the new year, lets hope the start dates come soon and its a happy new year for all!
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Yep fingers crossed we hear something in the next couple of weeks! happy neat year all.
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I emailed Laura this morning to try and get an update as my temp company is giving me hassle about accepting a permanent position with my current placement, but received the same generic response of "we will come back to you with an update when we have one"
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This waiting game is terrible. The not knowing has forced me to apply elsewhere.The first start date i get will be the job that i take.
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I seem to remeber someone saying something about the 5th? who knows I hope its within the next couple of weeks wanted to start as early as possible in 2017!
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Happy New Year lads!
Hopefully we start to find out stuff soon although I wouldn't be surprised in the office staff didn't start back till the 9th as that's when training starts I think.
If i hear anything I will be sure to let you all know!
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When I e-mailed Laura before Christmas the best info I could get was we would hear in the new year and her guess was a March start date and she did state guess!
From a previous statements on here people don't get much more that the month notice of course date so likely to be Feb before we hear I would suggest or end Jan at best hopefully I'm wrong but we must be practical
For those not in employment I would suggest getting sorted as if this isn't happening and if they give you a start date quit whichever job or application you don't want.
Sorry if this isn't the info you want but priorities first as they could turn round and decide to not recruit until the next financial year i.e. April or await a vacancy in your area. As I know how these companies recruit, hopefully it's more positive than I've stated but don't want people putting their eggs in one basket as they could as one recruit stated offer a temp contract.
Happy New Year and fingers crossed for us all!
Hopefully I'm not being too much of a downer but I've also heard they are to invest another half Billion in Fibre through Openreach hopefully it will filter down to us all sooner rather than later!
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I am expecting February at the very earliest, really hope its not in the new financial year though.. To be honest I just want a date and to see things moving ! such an anti climax after hearing you have been successful oh well the wait continues! I will email Laura next week but dont hold out much hope!
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I'm with you Jack after a very quick response to the interview to now be left for this long is an anticlimax.
Fingers crossed we will at least hear something soon even if it's for a March start!
The new financial year start was quite negative and I would hope unlikely as I would have hoped the money to recruit would have been in this years budget.
Copy of my e-mail from Laura from before Christmas
Thank you for your email.
I am still awaiting confirmation on the locations of the roles and training dates. I have been told that I will get this update in the new year.
At a guess I wouldn�t be surprised if start dates were from March at the earliest but obviously until I have an update this is not guaranteed.
As soon as I hear anything I will come back to you, we will work around your holiday.
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Hi guys and happy new year to all!
First time posting on the forum and I just wanted to say I'm in the same boat with regards to waiting for a start date. I'm in the north east area, passed my assessment on the 2nd June and had a similar response from Laura as yourself Firsttwodie. It's a killer waiting as I'm dying to get stuck in to a completely different career to that I'm currently in.
Just have to remain positive and keep hoping that the saying better late than never rings true!
Just wanted to say as well a big thank you to everyone that has contributed on here - it helped me massively with expectations of the assessment day etc
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I am also North East and passed 15 November assessment centre. Why did they do this if they already had people waiting who passed June?
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Well as you have worked for them before you should know !
these comments are my own and in no way represent any company that i may or may not be linked too.
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Ah, this is true mc31.
I remember about 15 years ago BT spent millions finding out if their brand was 'strong' (the piper logo). The outcome was that they did indeed have a strong brand that was instantly recognised ... Couple of months later they changed to the connected world logo (beach ball)?
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Can't believe you've been waiting since a June Carver and we thought we had it bad! Especially since you've seen several intakes start the course. My fingers are crossed for you and hope you hear soon it mus be a good firm to work for as we must be waiting for people to die before we get a chance lol!
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Im really hoping its a good company to work for, but the utter lack of info and job offer post interview is making me doubt it. we may start work for bt and be treated like mushrooms, kept in the dark and fed ...
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Best of luck to all the guys that are starting their training tomorrow and here's to hoping us that are waiting get some info soon fingers crossed
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the lack of info is a killer
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I agree.
Had a read through the first Openreach employment on here earlier looks like this is a regular position they put recruits through. It would look like they do interviews etc then allocate jobs when they arise rather than the usual of having the jobs waiting before advertising.
So it would appear we could be waiting for a vacancy first before a training course.
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Yep feels that way! I was told on my assessment day there was a position for each one of us and not to worry about competing for it if they like you and your successful there is a job waiting. I am just hoping all this waiting is partly due to the Xmas season and organising training etc, although maybe not if someone has been waiting since July!
Cant wait for the day I come on here and get some good news or have good news to post!
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hi all, i too am in the waiting game, secured position in october for north wales- still awaiting start date. been given a rough guide of jan-march.
iv also emailed laura, had the generic message you guys have had.
so frustrating!
ill be in touch when i get any news!
good luck!
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tried to find out if theres any news. got an email back saying that they still dont know anything yet
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Congrats on securing a position! You're much further along the process than a lot of us by the looks of it, hope all goes well for you mate.
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Please can you, or the first replier to you other than myself, remove the "" DELETED*" from the Subject. It gets hideously confusing in a few days if it remains. Especially if someone else then deletes a reply that includes it  .
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South Wales here, had mine on the 3rd November in Merthyr. I have heard a lot about wales being upgraded to superfast so im sure they will have positions for us its just a waiting game like you say!
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Norfolk here assessment day 2nd November in Brentwood Essex not sure if they are adding to their workforce or replacing natural wastage. Although a few have stated that they were told there was a position for each on the assessments. I was informed 32,000 applied and 1500 went to assessment so there could be a lot of us if this is the case!
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The amount of "BT opportunities for you" emails i receive is annoying whilst waiting for a date.
Its very frustrating. Im hopihg it will be worth it in the end.
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South Wales here, had mine on the 3rd November in Merthyr. I have heard a lot about wales being upgraded to superfast so im sure they will have positions for us its just a waiting game like you say! Fixed the Subject - removed the "Deleted".
Kindness isn't going to cure the world of all its awfulness but it's a good place to begin. Daisy Ridley.
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Norfolk here assessment day 2nd November in Brentwood Essex not sure if they are adding to their workforce or replacing natural wastage. Although a few have stated that they were told there was a position for each on the assessments. I was informed 32,000 applied and 1500 went to assessment so there could be a lot of us if this is the case! Fixed the Subject - removed the "DELETED".
Kindness isn't going to cure the world of all its awfulness but it's a good place to begin. Daisy Ridley.
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The amount of "BT opportunities for you" emails i receive is annoying whilst waiting for a date.
Its very frustrating. Im hopihg it will be worth it in the end. Fixed the Subject - removed the "DELETED".
Kindness isn't going to cure the world of all its awfulness but it's a good place to begin. Daisy Ridley.
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Ha ha, I'm the same!
Every time I get an email from BT Recruitment my hearts in my mouth...and then it is just an Opportunities for you and not even relevant to me!
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Those emails have started again this morning, thought there was an update once I saw BT recruitment, but just vacancies for irrelevant jobs to me lol.
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i woul have thought wed have been told when they got back after new year but its looking more like next month now
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I was quietly hoping for maybe the second week in January, like you said looks like its going to be next month now!
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im close to putting bt in my spam folder if all theae emails continue
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I've just had 8 e-mails for jobs just about every part of the country but my local area.
Has anybody heard from HR recently?
I sent an e-mail but never got a response!
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Heard nothing since the generic "we will get in touch when we have news" email. It's getting silly now.
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Tried to contact Vince said the number was no longer recognised. Some n news would be great.
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I'm hoping their recruitment plans will be finalised soon but weather or not they will let us know prior to a month before start date is yet to be seen!
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I would imagine they will, people would have to give notice periods and such at current employers. From the sounds of it, we are all in a long queue to be sorted through.
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Your probably right there must also be a natural wastage to the recruitment list too as some people haven't had the luxury of sitting waiting for date!
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I'm trying to stay positive, really just hope that there is a place for us and that were not on a waiting list if someone drops out?
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Hi everyone
I passed my assessment in Exeter mid October and have been waiting since for a start date.
I got a seasonal job which wasn't extended after xmas. I'm now claiming benefits
I called BT HR Tuesday 3 Jan and was told there was a big Finance meeting Friday 6 Jan and they were waiting for signatures to sign off the training.
Today I called again and was told it may be as late as March, but the person I spoke to said 'don't quote me, I might be totally wrong'
I appreciate they are dealing with £m however I am feeling very stressed and deflated after the initial excitement of being selected. I can't pay my rent and just want to work.
Hoping the person was wrong and we all hear something soon.
In the meantime I am looking for other work so I can keep a roof over my head.
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Hi Mate,
That absolutely sucks, there were threads on here before saying don't place all your eggs in one basket. I'm afraid that's just it the process is shemefully long,
Hope you keep the chin up and if the BT one comes along may it be a extra choice for you. I'm currently in a similar position with temp work but decided to go fishing for other jobs start of January as BT isn't contracted to me.
I'm confident of finding other employment and not waiting around anymore for the BT email!!
Hope it all works out well for you and keep the chin up.
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Cheers mate
certainly not putting all my eggs in the BT basket, just struggling to find any other work at the moment, applying for jobs every day. Anything will do until BT finally give me a start date.
[censored] thing about it all is that the wife is in the same situation. Temp job at xmas which finished. NYE and we both started the year unemployed. Only way is up!
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Same reply for me I asked yesterday had the standard reply "I�m afraid I still do not have an update, Once I have any information I will come back to you."
Luckily I am in a full time job now but still wanted to start as soon as poss!.
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At least you are getting a reply, my two emails have been ignored!
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end of feb.....
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Looks promising though from that email it sounds like we will be getting start date for March, hopefully we hear something by the end of this month!
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faith is restored!
We wrote to you in December with an update on where we are with your application for a role as an Openreach Engineer. I am aware that we said we would be in contact with you in the New Year, so wanted to make sure we gave you the latest position.
Firstly, thank you so much for your patience. Recruitment plans for next year are very much in progress and we are expecting a firm announcement on when we will be able to commence the next round of training by end of February.
Please bear with us at this time - We will be in back in contact with you before the end of next month.
Regards
Openreach Recruitment Team
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I got the same thing. Fingers crossed next email be a start date!!!😬
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the start date will be end of march if they give you a months notice, also the checks etc will take time
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Recruitment plans for next year...next financial year. My guess is April.
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I had the same email, massive relief as I was starting panic a little at the lack of contact from them. Fingers crossed for march then!
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Hi Guys,
I started off the thread mid last year has I and many other eager to start folk were in exactly the same boat as yourselves. It really is a waiting game, some wait longer than others. In the long run you will all eventually be successful. The logisitics which the recruitment team have to deal with is quite phenominal and its pretty much accurate that they will contact you as and when vacancies become available in your given geographical location. Openreach is, thus far, a great company to work for despite what some folk may say (they must have never worked for a truly bad employer) Good luck to you all and just be patient. Its well worth the wait!
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A chum of mine went to a BT/PO interview in 1982. Two years later the area inspector turned up on his doorstep asking if he could start Monday.
Things don't look like they have changed much.
He started on the Monday.
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For one Shlonger I would like to that you for starting this forum thread as it has been a fountain of knowledge for a lot of new applicants and has helped us a lot with the waiting knowing we are not alone as the contact can be varied and with long intervals apart.
How are you finding working at Openreach is the learning curve steep?
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Just out of curiosity is there anyone here that recently started training and if so is it just the first week up at yarnfield or is it the 5 weeks up there?
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From previous threads first week Yarnfield then collect van then rest at local training centre which could be Yarnfield!
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I'm just about to finish my second week training. I'm from Brighton pretty much and I'm doing the full 5 weeks in yarnfield. 5 hour drives home Friday and 5 hours drive back on Sunday. Some people have had the first week in yarnfield, get your van and equipment and do the rest at a closer facility. Any other questions I'll be happy to answer
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What van did you get and any tips so far?
Have you heard if there was any reason or change as to why we all weren't on your course as we were initially told it was for a Jan start date?
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I have a friend who works for open reach already, and he said last night that they have just had a training budget signed off, so we could have some movement soon. Fingers crossed.
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We got brand new Vauxhall Vivaros. Tips, I'd say make sure it's definitely what you wanna do, and that you can handle the heights. Not sure what other tips really, be ready to listen maybe. As for change of course date I couldn't say, there's 16 of us in this course, I'm not sure how many new recruit courses usually run at the same time
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Sorry probably didn't explain enough, the change of course was somebody on an earlier course was suggesting there may be a split in the 5 weeks residential course with a week or 2 buddying in the middle. Thanks for the info and good luck for the rest of the course.
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Sounds promising hoping to hear something end of this week!
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You're optimistic I was waiting till the end if Feb for any info!!
I like your option better but feel it's still a way off and will probably be a April start date I fear!!
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I would imagine it's going to be the same time frame, due to sheer volume of people they have to sort, I was just glad to hear some positive news.
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I am trying to be mate! Lots of stuff going on with BT/Openreach recently with the ofcom ruling and today I read about some kind of scandal with BT exaggerating their profits to put shares up... very worrying not sure where it leaves Openreach.
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The more Ofcom separate Openreach the less it will have to do with it. But the more it will encourage them yo split it off!
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Yeah, I just keep telling myself they need new people out there to install this superfast broadband so there must be jobs for us!
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They'll be jobs don't you worry let's just hope it's worth the wait we've had I applied in Feb last year!
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I'm not sure if any of the guys that started in Jan could provide a insight but I was told on the phone that when we do get start dates we would receive our contracts 6 weeks before we start so to recieve those and allowing time for any pre employment checks I'm assuming that when we do hear back by the end of Feb that it will be at least 6 weeks notice for the training.
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The latest email from BT is rather ambiguous and is leaving us all guessing:
Firstly, thank you so much for your patience. Recruitment plans for next year are very much in progress and we are expecting a firm announcement on when we will be able to commence the next round of training by end of February.
Please bear with us at this time - We will be in back in contact with you before the end of next month.
Option 1 - we'll hear something this week which gives us a month's notice so we can start training by the end of February
Option 2 - we'll hear something by the end of February, a month's notice (for most) means we'll start by end of March which means first pay will be April - the next financial year
I am hoping that the news of the training budget being approved means they are going to speed things up as lots of us have been waiting for months now. I was ready to start my training back in October, now I'm unemployed and looking for other work until this comes through.
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I was given 6 weeks notice, but all the checks were done in days. Had 48 hours to complete the tasks required and sent disclosure Scotland and dvla check as soon as I received them.
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I can't help wonder if you're all caught up with an internal financial quandary posed because
- BT haven't yet agreed with Ofcom about the legal control of Openreach
- The Italian problem
As BT's quarterly results were out, I happened to find their latest "Investor Meeting Day" slides from November/December last year, dated 7th November.
One bullet point in there was this:
c.3,000 Openreach engineers hired over 2014/15 and 2015/16; 950 additional engineer hires year to date and c.500 more to join before the end of December 2016
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Thanks for the info makes a bit of sense of what is going on cheers!
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They may sound like they took alot on already but I suppose their will naturally be wastage in those numbers such as people that leave the role and also if you look at the 2015/2016 full year they did have 290,000 engineer jobs per week and you think about it with their plans for ultra fast broadband by 2020 I think they'll need us guys. Keep the faith
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About 23,000 engineers (with vans), so about 12.6 jobs per week each; or 2.5 jobs per day per engineer, assuming a 5 day week, not allowing for sickness, holidays etc - so probably about 3 jobs each working day.
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I've read on here that the usual daily job target is 5-6 jobs per day so 20-25 a week to avoid stats rage from your Manager!
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Agreed that 3 seemed rather low, so I stayed withe the presnted total; and what I recollect reading about 12 months back; plus the likely adjustment for absences of vatious natures - from long experience of doing such assessments.
Thanks for your comment.
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Although there is the possibility of back log which wouldn't be in the figures?
Edited by deleted (Sat 28-Jan-17 18:58:20)
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There may be "backlog" in the primary figure, only digging in to OR reports may reveal.
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Number of jobs per day depends upon the type of work / area you work.A socket jockey in a city may do 7+ jobs a day but a multi skilled guy working in a rural patch may do only 1 or 2 jobs a day.If working on NS (Network Solutions ) it can be days per job !
these comments are my own and in no way represent any company that i may or may not be linked too.
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I guess some proportion of the engineers are focused on matters within the access network - spine fibre jointing, D-side upgrades, PCP replacements, etc - rather than doorstep appointments.
Is that the kind of thing NS gets up to?
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If any of you want to learn more about BT & OR, the 2015-2016 Annual Report may help=
http://www.btplc.com/Sharesandperformance/Annualrepo...
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I've read on here that the usual daily job target is 5-6 jobs per day
It depends entirely on so many different factors, which is why stats are such BS.
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Yes but not sure about the fibre jointing.
these comments are my own and in no way represent any company that i may or may not be linked too.
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My neighbor applied for a engineer job with Openreach last year, was talking to him yesterday. He got called up before hand and offered a different role as a Fibre to the property specialist which is 30k a year. no tech experience or anything just passed the assessment centre. I must have something to do with your location? anyways still waiting to hear anything.
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I'll have some of that if it's going!!
Although I think the commute may be slightly over my hour each way commitment?
Edited by deleted (Tue 31-Jan-17 18:17:00)
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Well the end of February is only 4 weeks away today so by then we'll hopefully have a development to look forward to
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Yeah I wouldnt say no to it haha! be happy to hear anything to be honest though.
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I think we are all part of the wanna hear something club!
But with all surprises somebodies going to make us wait right till the end to find out!
I do hope I'm wrong unfortunately haven't been so far!
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I first applied last May!!!I was told in Oct that I am a priority candidate for any future jobs as an Engineer in my area.I had same e mail awaiting training dates, and will hear by the end of February.I can't wait to hear that I have a job as currently unemployed now
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Sorry to hear that mate I'm in full time employment at the moment and am disturbed by the lack of forward momentum so have no idea what you are going through!
Good luck! If it means anything I hope you find a spot before me!
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Hi Firsttwodie thanks!!Everyday is a killer awaiting the important email!!I'm based in the North East,so hopefully will have a job for me in my location.They stated in an earlier e mail that would work round my holidays,so looks promising.fingers crossed as have a family to support
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To all the guys currently unemployed if you want some work while you wait for BT it might be worth checking Muller Wiseman there investing heavily into milk and more and need more rounds man pay is £23300 salary and it's job and finish.
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Another week almost gone,and still waiting!!!😔 I think training will be April now.
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For me anyway its almost definitely going to be an April start, and for the rest of us that have to give a months notice..also with the new financial year being April, I dont mind an April start want to hear something! haha
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The way I look at it is they said they will be in touch by the end of February so I'm assuming we'll hear on the 28th Feb and I only say that because that way you don't get too disheartened when another day passes with no news. And if you look at it that way it's only 25 days left max before we hear something
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I feel the same as you guys find out last week of Feb say 28th usually a months notice earliest start would be April New financial year/budget sounds more probable than anything else!
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Just out of curiosity to gauge the areas we're all waiting for jobs in where is everyone from ??
I'm from Newcastle, just curious if there's a trend in the areas that have people waiting. I have spoke with an area manager lately and was told the majority of his team were due to retire in the next 3-5 years so there was scope for a decent amount of vacancies .... hopefully a boost of confidence however I just hope the news is good at the end of the month so I can tell my current employers to stick it
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I'm between Newcastle and Edinburgh.Did my assessment at Edinburgh last June!!!!I can't wait to hear,feel it's been going on and on now lol
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Norfolk had interview 2nd November in Essex. Hopefully we are a boost to existing numbers rather than awaiting spaces as the replacements!
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I don't think a 3-5 year waiting period would make me feel very confident. They shouldn't be doing bulk recruitment in that area.
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Has anyone else been to Edinburgh for their assessment?back in June last year and told they are a priority candidate like myself?
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I'm from Swindon went to Oxford for my assessment, they recently announced they wanted swindon as the pilot location for business receiving ultra fast broadband so I would hope they need more engineers in my area
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I had assessment mid November having applied back in may like and I thought that was bad !! I was also told though that they are buddying newbies up with people who have only been in for 6 months !! Apparently some areas are desperate for people hence my wondering where people are waiting from.
It's all speculation though we just have to hope we get some good news at the end of the month and we can all sit and have a pint after a hard days training making the wait worthwhile !
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From Wrexham north wales. Had assessment day in October fingers crossed we hear soon and have that pint!!
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Swansea South Wales here. had my assessment on the 2Nd Nov.
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Im from wrexham too burty- think i was chatting to you the day we were interviewed! In the lobby!
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South East Northumberland. Assessment was 15th November at South Shields.
I've worked for BT before. Did 9 weeks at Yarnfield in 2002. It was brilliant. This is back when most of us had grey vans.
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I'm from Plymouth, had my assesment on 13th of October in Exeter.
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Hi everyone
I had my assessment in Exeter in October and like you all I've been waiting ever since.
I'm now unemployed so desperate to start.
I asked for clarification to their last email. This is the reply:
Unfortunately we have no news yet about any future recruitment for engineering roles in Openreach - I would hope to get some info by end of next month at the latest.
My understanding is that we would be contacting you towards the end of February - I expect the next tranche of training would commence in the new financial year (i.e. early April)
South West is one of the areas that needs a lot of work as lots of rural villages and towns have dire internet connection, so hoping there's still a job for me.
keeping everything crossed for everyone
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I'm in North Northumberland , seems to be a fair few from the North East waiting to hear back?
I had my assessment day in South Sheilds in November too.
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Hi I'm from Fife in Scotland, worries me that there might be no positions in my area.i had my assessment in Glasgow mid October. Been waiting since then hoping for a firm offer at the end of this month.
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I was told by one of the recruitment managers that everyone who passed their assessment day will be offered a position. We just need to be patient.
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The countdown is on until we hear some news. Can't wait!!
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I had mine there in October. Didn't expect things to drag on like this. Just want to hear of a start date.
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It sounds promising with e mails saying I'm a priority candidate,work round my holidays, but you can never tell until it's confirmed!!hurry up,getting very impatient now!!lol
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Just out of curiosity to any of the guys that recently started what's the working hours/days your currently doing?
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Hi, I'm from Oldham in the North West, passed my assessment late October. Have a good friend in BT Openreach who spoke to an area manager who assures him that anyone who has been offered a job WILL get their job, It's just logistics and that the cogs in BT turn very sloooowwwwwly. We just need to be ready to go when the call comes.
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What session where you on in Glasgow mate? I was the morning session on the Wednesday!
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I was the afternoon session think there was about 14 of us.
Alot of people up for the job.
Not long to go now this next email is pretty important for myself.
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Do you think everyone that passes the assessment are guaranteed a job?I missed out last time but told I'm a priority candidate this time round.has anyone else been in the same position?
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So did you pass the assesments last year?
If so were you told straight away that there were no positions available or is it very similar to this round where your left waiting.
Getting anxious now!!
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Hi,
I am pleased to say you were successful at passing the assessment centre, well done!
Unfortunately at the moment there are a limited number of positions available in your area and they have gone to other candidates, so for the moment we are unable to offer you a position.
However we will be in touch if and when this changes to see if you are still interested.
I�m sorry we haven�t been able to find anything for you right now and if you have any questions please do let me know.
Kind Regards,
Laura,
Laura Daley| Recruitment Advisor | BT Group | 81 Newgate Street, London, EC1A 7AJ
Email: [email protected]
Interested in joining BT? Visit www.btplc.com/careercentre to see our live vacancies.
This email contains BT information, which may be privileged or confidential. It's meant only for the individual(s) or entity named above. If you're not the intended recipient, note that disclosing, copying, distributing or using this information is prohibited. If you've received this email in error, please let me know immediately on the email address above. Thank you.
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I first applied last May,had assessment in June(Edinburgh) and got this e mail in July.Got told in Oct priority candidate for positions in my area.fingers crossed as currently unemployed now
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[censored] hell! you have had a long wait, Sounds different to the emails we have been getting all the ones I have had so far are saying we have a position but no training dates at the moment!
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What have your e mails said?have you had a contract yet?
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Hi,
No contract offer yet hopefully will see this magical act happen in the the coming weeks.
All emails have been congratulations on the job were just awaiting confirmation of training dates and locations.
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Hi All,
I have found this forum really useful and have listed some of the places mentioned where Assessment Centers took place.
Edinburgh
Glasgow
Southshields
Exeter
Swansea
Oxford
Essex
Given the number of people offered jobs, it would not be unreasonable to assume that some of us are going to wait into the summer to start.
A few people have mentioned they are unemployed. If it is of any use, Manpower Recruitment are looking for temporary engineers £22k to modify tumble dryers. It is one weeks all expenses paid training in Peterborough, you get all tools, uniform, a van and laptop. It is only one weeks notice so when BT actually have a start it is easy to move on.
http://www.manpower.co.uk/searchjobs/?Keywords=white...
I pass this on in good faith, as some money is better than nowt.
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Thanks but too far for me!!Well getting closer to end of month,hopefully next two weeks we will all hear good news.
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Dslammer.
Your a legend!!
Great tip!
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Two full weeks left in Feb now folks.....good luck everyone
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Just read on another forum that new starts are given a 1 year probation to then have it extended to 2 after 12 months without warning. So if and when we get an offer keep a copy guys as we may need it!
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When I accepted my offer I was sent a digital contact, which was vague at best and asked to tick a box as acceptance. It stated that my probationary period was one year. I thought this was excessive as have never come across a probationary period so long before but accepted nevertheless.
After completion of training I am then told by manager that the probationary period is in fact 2 years. Having also spoke to other engineers who have been on a few years they also tell me the same thing. When their first year is up they receive an email explaining that their probationary period has been extended with no reason. Having just started and no particular reason for an extension how can Openreach get away with stating 1 year when its 2 regardless of performance??
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I wouldn't worry too much about that.
I can't remember the exact regs but I will look for it later.
In short under EU law, which for now applies, a contract is deemed permanent after 6 months I think providing you work full time for that period. It may be 12 month. I will find the exact law later on.
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Cheers mate!
Was just letting people know to keep a copy if it pops up later to bite them on the butt!
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I'm in work at the moment but if you google Labour Law probationary period contracts it should give you the law on it.
Like I said I'm pretty confident it's 6 months.
I work for the Police and we have 2 year probationary period but we are not employees. Servants to the Crown so the regs don't apply to us.
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I've just e mailed Laura for an update and she said can't give one yet and might not get one by the end of the month!!what's going on folks???
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Ahh man that is not good new, I was hoping to hear something end of this month with an April Start date!
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After that reply Really starting to lose faith now and wondering if its ever going to happen for some of us
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Is it to do with Openreach leaving BT maybe???I'm totally fed up as unemployed and was hoping for an April start too 😔
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Fingers crossed for all this week, especially those who don't currently have employment!
Good Luck!
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Cheers!!Hopefully we will all get an email this week and not next week.I have waited so long,first applied last May 😞I'm from North East where is everyone else from?
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Norfolk N Good!
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Aberdeenshire. Just want to know when, this carrot dangling is killing
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We all need an answer this month as gone on far too long now!
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its been 19 months since i applied now, im at the point where im not convinced it will happen anymore.
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19 months!!!omg thought I was bad waiting !!where are you based?I think it will still happen
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That is just ridiculous. How can someone be expected to hold on that long.
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im in Birmingham, only about 25 mins from the training centre. Ive spoken to the openreach guys on the street they need plenty of people. so theres jobs here and i dont even need accomodating at yarnfield! yet still no word...
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I'll be very surprised if we hear anything before end of March!
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Me also! Think they just want us ready and waiting, as required job location/positions arise.
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I have a feeling we will get the email, but it will just be another one saying thanks for your patience blah blah blah, we hope to have an update by end of march.
It's quite ridiculous, never have I ever had to wait for almost 6 months after being told I was successful at interview. There hasn't even been any mention of a job offer, let alone start date.
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I agree, its almost as if they havent started anyone at yarnfield yet, further up this page it was said that 9 lads were under training in week 2 of 2017, not many since they are apparently taking on 1500 this quater.
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If we had all been offered a position it wouldn't of been so bad!I'm needing this job as unemployed now!!they can't keep us hanging on much longer
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Did my assessment on 2nd November in merthyr tydfil, south Wales. I live in merthyr and on a daily basis see Kelly Communications vans at the bt boxes. Says working on behalf of openreach on the side. Surely it can't be cheaper to contract work out rather than hire more of their own. Losing interest rapidly. Gonna have to start making a commitment and putting effort into my current job now.
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I'm sure there will still be jobs for us.....cant see them wasting money putting people through assessments
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Just out of interest, does anyone know whether the applications expire or waiting list expires after a certain length of time and we have to start over again?
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On the indeed jobs page theres also a lot of field engineering positions in telecommunications being advertised too in the north west with training given, by employment agencies so who knows what's happening. To be honest i dont think Openreach know what's happening either. Its not professional at all. I have a buddy whos a fibre engineer with openreach, hes going to yarnfield on friday for a days training. Iv asked him to try and get us some information if he can.
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Openreach have been using Kelly for years. It appears to be quite a hard gig. You have to share a room whilst training, attend the road safety work training in your own time. Finally, you have to agree to pay back your training costs if you leave. Oh and they pay £60 a day whilst training.
If you check the news feed on BT Openreach, Ofcom are putting the boot in, which must be muddying the decision waters at BT.
The acid test should occur by Tuesday 28th, February 2017, the last date that BT Openreach have committed to give us information by.
If this iprovides no significant information to give us hope, I think we all need to look elsewhere.
Several Kelly engineers attended the centre at Oxford. Any on this Forum?
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How far from the local exchange do they say is your area?where I live it could be England or Scotland lol
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The £60 a day pay whilst training is advertised in said advert i have mentioned. I think it goes up to £100 a day once trained but dont quote me. I also dont think we will all be contacted befor month end. 1 week to go! Good luck all!
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They need to start giving us answers......cant believe we are still all waiting!! Are these jobs going to be permanent and long term I wonder?
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If you get to a good standard you earn more working for Kelly's as you get paid per job. Only problem being a contractor is there might not always be the work available.
We've been told to be conscious on spending as its coming to end of the financial year. Budget starts again beginning of April and may be the reason why you guys haven't heard anything yet.
My advice, whilst you are waiting is to do your homework. Look up the basics like wire colours for different cables, JDSU on youtube tonsee what the tester does and the functions. Trust me all this will benefit younin the long run. Theres a lot to take in during training and once you are out on your own even more to learn.
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im just treating this as a backup now and looking elsewhere. I have my MPhil viva on friday then im unemployed. i need something more firm than "we might give you a job at some point during this year"
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Anyone else a BT customer and get that large letter this morning?
Had a a4 size letter with loads of offers in it, got my hopes up.. haha
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Poor so and so! (calling you a Bug£$%, is a censored word!)
I'm glad I'm not the only one who still gets excited by the postman making a delivery unfortunately its done by e-mail.
Any decent offers from BT? Getting bored now.
Edited by deleted (Tue 21-Feb-17 14:14:56)
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I am dealing with Laura but have found a number for a Margie Cooper,recruitment person too.0151 6538461.is anyone dealing with her??
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Hi all! In the same boat, I passed the assessment in November, still awaiting a start in Newcastle. I didn't get the last email you all seemed to get though.
Margie was my POC, then she emailed in December to say it was changing to Vincent Jones AKA Vinny Jones.... Not him...
I've heard nothing since.. I think he has gone off sick. I've just emailed Laura Daley today to see if there is an update.
I work for EE, which is now part of BT. I have to say though it is a little unnerving the lack of communication. I really feel for you guys out of work and waiting.
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Did Laura reply back to you?
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Nope not yet, I only done it at like 16:10. I called Vince's TM first, and his VM said that he was out of the office for a couple of weeks!
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Let us know if you get a reply back please 😊
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i emailed vince weeks ago he hasnt answered any emails in at least a month.he was my POC i just assumed he didnt work there anymore.
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I also emailed Vince a couple of times in January, without any reply.The first one had his Out of office on and gave his managers contact details. I emailed him and he replied straight away saying there was still no update but he is sure everyone who passed an assessment centre will be offered a job. I was going to contact him at the end of February for another update!
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What area are you from?
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South Northumberland
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I'm NE Northumberland an hour from Newcastle and Edinburgh
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They are currently advertising for AFM/LCM/OM positions at the moment. Maybe they want these new positions in place first.
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Well as expected -
Hi Steve,
Thank you for your email.
I have not yet received an update however as soon as I have any further information I will come back to you.
Regards,
Laura
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I think we were on the same assessment day at South Shields, it might be worth asking for an update off Jay who took the assessment.
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They've only got 5 working days left to give us all an answer!!!!
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Why do you think they have to tell us something by the end of Feb?
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I'm in North Tyneside
I asked why I didn't receive the mail in January and they apologised and said that they have my details so unsure why it wasn't sent
She said they have been awaiting an update for a while, once they have it, she will come out to everyone to provide options etc.
I feel a little bit better now knowing that I haven't been lost in the system somewhere, fingers crossed we'll all hear soon.
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Oh really? I was in on 16/11/2016 , the afternoon slot.
I think they are all in the same boat, either they know, and they have been embargoed, or they literally have no idea.
It looks as though its going to be the new financial year
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Haha very true....will be..... we will update you end of March
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There was quite a few ex army on our assessment, a Sky bloke and a few from Berwick. Jay said the successful people would most likely be training together, if so, the first round is yours at Yarnfield Steve!
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I first applied last May!!!!assessment July then took folk on in my area.Came back to me in Oct saying I'm a priority candidate and was taking more on in my area,also said would work round my holidays.it sounds very promising but can never tell!!!
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When did you go for your assessment?was it Edinburgh?
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November, South Shields. First applied about 3 years ago. Was successful at sift and then did an online test which involved cogs and pulleys etc... You had to say what would happen if the cog turn that way and so on...
Passed that and then never heard anything else!
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Yeah I think half of the group was ex service, do you know how many of us made it through? Haha, I have no problem with that buddy as long as you fetch the chasers!!
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No idea how many got through? We want the warmer weather anyway for pole climbing!
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Now theres a shock. Not. So disheartening.
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What?
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the reply that hendaz1984 got from Laura. Expect we will get the same in a few days with the mouldy carrot telling up to hang on a little longer.
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I'm starting to wonder if there will be jobs for us all.....whats making it worse is that I'm unemployed and was hoping for an April start
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I'm lucky, I have a job, which I hate now, and just want a fresh start. Though when I passed assessment that there would be a good crimbo present awaiting. Turns out to be disappointment after disappointment with an ever mouldy carrot dangled in front. Hope something turns up for you soon and that its going to be good news this time.
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It's just ridiculous how much this is dragging on!! Cheers,but really hope it's good news for everyone
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I'm usually an optimistic person but I must admit I'm feeling quite pessimistic about hearing any concrete information by the end of this month, I can see another "we are still waiting to find out....." email
Hopefully get proved wrong though, can't imagine what it's like for the guys waiting that are out of a job just now!
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I hope I'm wrong but I doubt there will even be a 'we are still waiting...' Email
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I think the same, the contact in the new year was end of jan. I dont think we'll get an email at all this minth.
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I attended a meeting with some of the senior guys at Openreach. Basically it was to get feedback on how the new recruits are fitting in and what improvements could be made. Anyways, come back with certain info which might be handy for you guys.
As its the end if the financial year the budget is really tight. New budget does not start until April so that when major developments will start happening. I'm assuming this will apply to training as its a considerable cost seeing as though they have taken on 2000 engineers. Also training will be changed to what the last intake received. We had 5 weeks training followed by 2 1/2 weeks with a buddy. New recruits will receive a better training schedule something along the lines of 1 weeks clasroom based folllowed by another weeks with a buddy. On the various topics this will continue and you'll receive roughly 6 weeks out with a buddy. For you guys this will be much better than what we received and should aid learning.
They seem to be trying to get a lot of feedback from us newer recruits so that they can improve the training for you newer guys who have yet to be given a start date. I know its been a long wait but trust me from I have heard you will be getting a much more comprehensive training package which gives you more time to take onboard and learn the things which you are taught.
My opinion if younare serious about the job it will be worth the wait.
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Apologies for the bad typing, on my phone.
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Cheers for the info. I suppose we will just have to wait and see.
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Thanks for the info.
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Thanks dylan, that certainly a breath of fresh air for us
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Cheers Dylan
Fingers crossed we'll be getting a start in April. Pleased they are improving the training
I do have a friend who works in HR at BT, he said the financial year always brings new job opportunities across the company, so I'm presuming OR will be the same.
Everything is pointing to that
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Happy days are round the corner for us all soon
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youd have thought that theyd have signed off the jobs financially before interviewing us all though. and what would have happened if finance said no, doesnt bear thinking about.
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youd have thought that theyd have signed off the jobs financially before interviewing us all though. and what would have happened if finance said no, doesnt bear thinking about.
Don't put all your eggs in one basket. They still might say no yet. I would not be surprised the way this process has gone.
Got offered a new role in work today. They don't know I'm leaving should I get offered a job with BT. Got to keep your options open for sure.
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I agree, nor do you want to burn bridges.
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Hendaz1984
I was also on the afternoon session at Shields so good to hear I wasn't the only one. Makes me wonder though how many people got through from the session. I'm also in North Tyneside so I would assume we're both going to be in the exact same boat. Hopefully they get this sorted soon my assumption would be for the new financial year having spoke to a few people within both OR and BT.
Atleast there's someone to share a few beers with on the train down to yarnfield..... will be worth the wait !
Ben.
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Is there anyone that had their assessment in Edinburgh last July and still waiting for a start date like myself?I was at the afternoon session
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Anyone else get that email? Looks like we have been offered the position! Sliglty different to what we applied for salary wise.. but still chuffed hope you all had the same email!
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I got the email to mate. Congratulations! About time.
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Yeah about time! Doesn't sound too different to the job advertised I assume we will be getting some kind of NVQ qualification or something either way glad it's finaly come through!
Congrats all
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Yep me too.
I emailed her back asking for clarification on making sure it's a permanent contract
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That's a good point didn't even cross my mind let's hope so!
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What area are you all from?still no e mail for me .congratulations to you all.was it Laura that sent It?
When is your start date?
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South Wales I am mate, and it was Laura. Maybe taking her time getting round to everyone. Does look like a standard mass email though give her a message if you haven't heard anything in a couple of hours?
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I got the email too, looks like we are getting less money for the 1st year now than was advertised, but at least we have a job offer
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Yes be loads of people to contact I guess!what are they offering for the first year now?have you got your start date yet?I'm based up in the North East so maybe be next week before I hear.
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Congrats guys!
Hope this is the ball starting to roll!
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Bjt1992
Ah nice one mate, yeah there was another lad who worked at EE there too, I seen him the other day but he didn't make it through.
Good to know there will be some familiar faces there though
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Got my email April start!!!!phew!!!!
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Well done mate! I'm feeling pretty left out here haha!!
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Me too
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Got my email today aswell. I'm also from Wrexham, seen a few others who are too so hopefully see you all soon.
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Me too....still few hours left today to find out!
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Ruabon and chirk mine said initially
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Okay clearly not everyone has got the jobs yet, and the thread continues so shutting this one due to its size.
Feel free to continue with version 5 and include a link back to the post you are leading on from.
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