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Shiny new thread as the other one was closed due to size.
I've been checking emails and this site all day today now that I know one of us has heard back 
Hopefully the wait is coming to an end for us!
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Had a second email today after the congrats one saying still awaiting dates for start and should hear within a few weeks and to bear with them. Enyone else had that?
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Hi Mate,
I also had an email this morning advising about securing an agreed training date and that would be in touch in the next couple of weeks.
I guess we probably had the email from the same person at BT.
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Tidy. Progress maybe!!👍
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Yeah got the same email, the balls rolling lads 
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First of all, cheers Ricki for the new thread. Just as a heads up for everyone who recently passed the Assessment Day. I did mine 19th October and heard by email two days later that I passed, great news. Received email today just saying to bear with it, just waiting to secure training dates and that I'll hear back within two weeks. So, all being well I'll hear then about dates and location. Slightly wierd feeling really as I should be feeling elation as this opportunity means the world to me but the lull in proceedings seems to have dulled my excitement but I know that will change when it all starts to get real. I'm getting a vibe January will be the time I start but I've also heard April mentioned, last quarter of this year, first quarter of next. Is anyone able to expand on this at all? Congratulations to all those who passed and good luck to anyone still in the process of application, and I hope things are going well for those in training or have recently finished training. Exciting times for us all.
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Yeah I know what you mean, was a bit of an anti climax after the elation of actually getting the job, as you say though at least we got it, would much rather be in our position than those not passing the assessment day 
With regards to the start date, one of the guys on the other thread had a confirmed January start date so I still think this batch of assessment day passes will be January but I have another friend going for on at the end of the month and he has been told April start dates.
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I had the email from Laura saying we should know in the next couple of weeks, I replied but she is on annual Leave now I think.
Either way looks like a start date is just around the corner, shall keep checking this thread and update if I hear anything!
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Nice one, I'll be doing the same!
Have you or any of the other guys on here done your pre employment checks yet?
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Hi mate,
I've not completed anything yet. dont think you do until you have been given an offer of employment from what I've picked up on the previous threads.
What was the return date from Laura on the out of office? I had sent email minutes before the email was sent and said out of office until 16th November.
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I haven't dont anything yet mate, my online job page still says pending feedback.
I had the same 16th of November which was the day I received the email from her lol. I know she has done a few typos of dates and times in previous emails so maybe she just typed it wrong?
on another note anyone know if we are going to be offered 18 month contracts or permanent ones, it was mentioned at the assessment centre.
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That could be very possible I know I've done it in the past in my current job 
I'm not sure about the contract length/type. I do remember not hearing anything about 18 month temp contract. So perhaps it's the latter I remember when I searched BT jobsite I searched permanent. Suppose it might vary by area.
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Yeah I cant imagine how busy she must be with all these new starters.
Awh well just have to wait and see!
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I was about to create a thread when I stumbled upon this one.
Sorry if I'm hijacking your thread.
I had my assessment on 2nd October in Merthyr Tydfil, South Wales.
Had an email couple days letter to say I had passed. Got another off Laura yesterday to say I'll know a start date within the next couple of weeks.
Can't wait for a start date now so I can proper get excited.
Any other Welsh folks here that has passed and waiting?
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Had mine on 2nd November in Merthyr mate found out I had passed the day after!
Loads of people playing the waiting game now!
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Hopefully it'll be January.
I've booked two weeks off for Christmas anyway so January wouldn't leave me with many shifts left in this place thankfully
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Does anyone know where in Cardiff the training facility is?
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Congratulations buddy on being successful.
I'm up in Scotland and unfamiliar with training places.
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Yarnfield Stone is the only one I'm aware of but I think somebody mentioned one in Scotland either they were from Edinburgh and the course centre was Aberdeen or the other way round!
Anybody from Norfolk area who got through?
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Cheers lads,
I'm in Scotland too, think we do a wee in yarnfield, travel downon train and drive home in your new van assuming you pass AA driving assessment then training is in Livingston before buddying in your local area, depends on how much space there is in Livingston though as have heard of folk doing all training at yarnfield.
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Not sure about the contract length, I applied for a permenant postion but I suppose it depends on what jobs are available in your area, being in full time employment it will be a bit of a gamble going for an 18 month contract.
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What part of Scotland buddy? I'm east coast in Edinburgh.
Yeah it would be a bit of a gamble, I'd like something permanent that said I'd want to leave my current Job since I moved roles which hasn't worked out for me.
Fingers crossed for something permanent.
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Ayrshire mate!
Yeah I'm in much the same position to be honest, changing roles in my current job on Monday, only agreed to it as I'm planning on leaving anyway and thought it was a way to help out before I go.
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I know Ayrshire well, grew up in Kilwinning and family live here.
Hopefully it will be not too bad a change and the time will fly by.
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Nice one mate, I'm in Saltcoats, stayed in kilwinning for a couple of years though.
Here's hoping mate lol
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Congrats everyone
I'm in Somerset and am very relieved (so is the wife) that Laura emailed to say that training dates should be sorted in a couple of weeks.
My seasonal job finishes at the end of November, so am now applying for an xmas job to see me through until the training starts.
Fingers crossed we'll hear soon. Can't imagine how many people they are trying to organise!
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Hopefully you get something sorted soon mate!
Aye the BT recruitment girls are certainly kept busy
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Hi new to the forum seen some detail last week which really helped with my assesment that I attended on Wednesday so thanks to everyone who's given input on the assesment day !
Great news on Thursday I received an email saying I had successfully passed my interviews and the assesment day. Absolutely over the moon about this but then the mail went on to say that due to the vacancies needing agreed by finance I was not being formally offered a job at this time. However it went on to say this should be agreed in the very near future and they are looking at starting training in the early part of the new year. January was mentioned at the Assement day. The mail also said they would be looking to match me to a location in the meantime and would be in touch soon.
Bit of an anti climax but staying positive.
Anybody else had a similar experience ?? Praying that the vacancies are agreed and they agree a start date and offer the job soon but looking at the volume of recruitment I'm expecting to be waiting a little while.
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Passed my assessment on the 2nd November, several on here earlier than that. I think it's just a numbers game there appear to be quite a few awaiting training courses that's also taking in to account those awaiting a position in their area.
You could be awaiting a drop out once the contracts are thrown out. On my assessment they stated 32000 applied 1500 went to interview didn't state positions available and areas they were in. It's a big organisation so you will soon get an answer but could be March/April for next intake if you don't hit this one. I've heard on the forums that an intake of 3000 not sure over how long.
Good Luck and I hope you and me are on the next course!!
Any other gossip anybody has heard?
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Yeah those numbers were pretty much those that were quoted on Wednesday. There was mention that each intake for training runs with 50 people and the last one started last week which takes them to the week before xmas which is when they stop until January. We were told those that were successful would be looking at starting in January but obviously this will be depending on the vacancies being signed off. Suppose if they're working it with the tax year it could be more towards April but hopefully hear something soon.
As for vacancies there was no detail given on a number and there was 14 of us on my assesment and 2 no shows and that was the 4th session over the 2 days so I don't know what the ratio but working on that there was say 40-50 applicants through to that stage, those applying to be based somewhere up here in the north east.
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My session also had 14 and 2 no shows over a 2 day 4 session period so again 56 over the 2 days so must have been roughly 30 of these 2 days sessions over the whole country to plough through 1500.
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Hi Gents,
Congrats to all that passed their assessment. I did my induction a week ago at Yarnfield and was told by tutors that my group was the last to be trained this year and that it will commence again in January. I passed my assessment in September and around 4 weeks later got a response saying I would start in November.
You'll have 5 weeks training in total followed by 2 managers days and 3 weeks of buddying. You may be put up in different locations during the 5 weeks. After Yarnfield I have been given 3 other locations to stay at whilst continuing training. Only if you live within 30 minutes commute of the training facility will you be able to stay at home and travel in.
Its been an enjoyable experience so far. At Yarnfield you get put into your groups with the people who you will be spending the 5 weeks with, normally 8 in a group. Get to know them and it's a much more enjoyable experience.
If you have any questions please ask me and i'll reply. For those who don't already know the 10% performance bonus is included in your wage. No stats to complete as Openreach and the union have not come to an agreement yet.
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Thanks for the update especially with the 10% bonus added as that takes a huge weight off most of us I'm sure. What van were you given and how taxing is the course? Do they pay for your traveling time?
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Hi mate,
We were all given new Vauxhall Vivaro's eco boost. A tutor said they have also been giving Transits too, only difference is the Transit come with heated seating. No more Fiat Doblos as they are trying to phase them out.
To be honest the driving assessment was pretty relaxed but it depends on who you get. There are two asian guys which are really good, laid back and put you at ease. There's a lady instructor who is very strict and failed a couple of guys.
You go out in pairs, do you vehicle checks and then the instructor goes out for a short drive to show kind of the way he is expecting you to drive. No push pull technique, drive as you would normally but both hands on the wheel. Just check your mirrors a lot and pay attention to road speed. You'll each take turns driving 20 minutes each and then swap, you'll do this twice. You may have to do some manouvers such as reversing around a corner, reverse parking and 3 point turn. Go as slow as you want, they just want to see you do it safely.
From what I heard from the instructor you are going to get a bit of overtime as you leave on a sunday tonget to you accomodation. Similarly the weeks after that you have to get to your hotels and checkin before midnight. They calculate how long it takes you to travel from your address.
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All sounds good. Hopefully myself and the rest of the October guys get January start. Never checked me email as much as I have in the last month. I don't mind where training is,what van I get or bonus is I Just want to start. It's good to hear the training is all good. Gives a good heads up cheers.
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Hi mate thanks for the info, much appreciated. I had my assessment day on the 21st of September and was finally given a start date last week for January, can't wait! What do you do in Yarnfield on the first week of training? Is it just inductions and health and safety? Or is there climbing and other stuff? Good news about the 10% bonus being included (Y)
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Hi,
The first week mainly is around health and safety, customers, driving theory and assessment. It's death by powerpoint i'm afraid but some classes are better than others and the tutors tend to skip some of the stuff which is not relevant. You'll also get introduced to the union and decide if you want to subscibe for about £15 a month. You can always think about it and sign up later. First day you'll collect your uniform, laptop and phone mid week and then your van on friday where you travel about and hour by coach. There your van will be stocked with all your tools apart from tester, which was my groups case anyway.
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Sounds intriguing lol. Didn't realise you get a laptop too, can you use it for personal use at home i.e. Surfing the web? What phone was it you got to? Can't wait to get my van but a bit nervous about the driving test even though I drive a van at the moment and it's fairly relaxed, nerves get the better of me haha
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I'm sure the van test can't be that bad just avoid handbrake turns!!!
Can you use the phone for own calls/text within reason? Wifey I'm gonna be late type stuff?
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What's it like when your not training? do you just sit around with the other lads or lasses? being BT I assume there is WIFI in the rooms right? hopping to Skype home most nights!
Either way exited to get started training!
Can you stop off at services on the way home in your Van I have heard they are quite strict with tracking it.
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Did anyone else get an email this morning to say still waiting for date?
Thanks for the heads up on the training and van etc.
What sort of allowance do they give you for food and drink?
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Thanks for the info mate, sounds very exciting, I can't wait to get started
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I got an e-mail too this morning asking if I still wanted my application to be active prior to sorting out course placement!
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Maybe they are trying to weed out the numbers.
The anticipation is killing me. I'm fortunate to have a full time job in the meantime. Must be torture for those that don't.
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Hi guys, I'm in the same boat as everyone else. I interviewed on the 13th of October in Exeter and was told on the 18th that I was successful. I didn't hear anything until 16th of November when I received an email stating I'd receive a start date in the next couple of weeks. Then I received another email today asking if I still wanted my application to be active. So I'm really hoping I'm going to get a start date soon, preferably January!
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I think it's a huge intake of new starters and as you can guess probably a bit of a nightmare to get everybody in to courses closest to their home address. I think they are just checking for natural waistage before cramming people in to slots! I should think we will hear this week and a large amount should be in training in a January placement as others have been given dates of the 9th.
Good luck everyone and hope we all get to be there!!
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I had an email on the 16th asking for my patience too and that I would get a start date in the next couple of weeks, no email today asking about if i'm still interested though hopefully they haven't offered to many people these jobs!
Would love an early January start rather than going back to my current job.
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I only had my interview on the 2nd November some had theirs in September goodness knows how they're coping! Somebody stated they had an interview last week so that's probably why they are leaving it till this or next week to let people know course/start dates. Although it doesn't make it any easier waiting so long!
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Same as me, where about did you have yours? Yeah it understandable just sitting tight waiting lol
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I had mine in EE centre Merthyr Tydfil on the 2nd November. Morning session
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They were also interviewing in Essex the 1st and the 2nd of November so you can see how big this intake could be? We had 14 on my session including 2 no shows so 56 over the 2 days possibly
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I had mine in Merthyr too! afternoon session though wonder how many people got through I think we had 12 in our group.
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I heard they were interviewing 1500 in total nationally so what the pass rate is don't know hard to pin point as don't know what areas everybody came from and spaces
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Can't use the laptop for personal use, only work and to use the intranet. We got iphone 5c's to use.
If you get to know the other people in your group is good in the evenings as you can socialise. Yarnfield has a bar with some pool tables and darts. If you get placed at other accomodation for the remaining 4 weeks its normally 4 star but in remote areas, thats my case anyway and been placed around essex and harrow. Last week dinner was provided and just chose from the menu, this hotel i've been given £25 allowance to spend on whatever at the bar or restaurant.
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Yarnfield there is wifi eveywhere, also the hotels i have stayed in it has been available. As for stopping off at services I did after collecting my van to fill up and take a break from driving. Also during the second week we were allowed to drive during lunch to get some food. Best check with your tutor and not take anything for granted.
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£25 is that for brekkie dinner and evening meals plus drinks?
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Also has there been any mention of there being a training facility in Cardiff? I know that city very well and live within 20 miles of it so that would be perfect for me
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No, £25 voucher just for dinner. I've been getting either a full english or continental breakfast, sandwich, crisps and drink for packed lunch. This may not he the case at every hotel you stay in as last week we had choice of 3 course meal from the menu, buffet breakfast and packed lunch.
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Not heard anything about a training facility in Wales. I had a couple of blokes on my induction at Yarnfield who were from there. There were a few from Scotland too who had to travel quite a way to get there. Not sure if they are using Yarnifield as a primary base for inductions as the site is massive and plenty of rooms to accomodate staff. They also have their on-site training rooms there too. Its also ver close to Magna park in Leicester where you collect your vans.
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Thanks for taking the time to answer all these questions.
It would be nice to get a fixed date soon. I'll be able to relax for Christmas then knowing that I won't have to go back to my current job after the holidays.
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No worries mate. I imagine you would hear back from them before Christmas as once they have given you a training date its roughly 4-5 weeks before you go. It gives you plenty of time to do your pre-employment checks and upload documents and for them to sort out your travel.
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What are the pre employment checks that I have to do?
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I don't know if you have done this already but you get your acceptance email and then log on to confirm and put electronic signature to contract. This is then followed up by another email requesting you log in online via BT website where you applied for job and you will see a new tab for tasks. Here you will upload a photo, provide bank details, drivers licence details, passport,. You'll be given a link to disclosure scotland where you will apply for your criminal check and then upload the reference number. You will also have to give details of references covering the last 3 years. You tick off these tasks as you go along. You then have to wait for your disclosure scotland certificate to come in the mail and you then scan it and send it to your advisor. Once all is verified you'll get a ready for work email.
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Don't worry younget you start date before the ready for work email. Its just a confirmation everything has been completed and that you have criminal convictions you have not stated. You then get a phone call from the travel team roughly 1-2 weeks before your start date who go through arrangements, either train or hire car if you live anywhere near other applicants who you can pick up.
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Thanks again
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Very helpfull thanks mate, hopefully we will find out soon !
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Just an update to let you all know I received my contract today for the 9th of January start. It's really starting to feel real now. Got a few things to do tonight to complete the process. Exciting!
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Great news mate! I can only imagine how good it feels now its starting to feel more real
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Thanks for giving us all information on what to expect going forward Appreciate it mate.
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Well done mate hopefully the rest may get some info today or tomorrow!
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Congratz! just out of curiosity was it a full time contract or the fixed term 18 month one?
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Nothing was mentioned on my assessment day about a temporary contract? Was it mentioned on yours ? I think you and one other are the only one who have mentioned it. It is also likely to be local to your application area if it is!
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Yeah the guy giving the presentation mentioned at the end we would either be offered permanent ones or 18 month fixed contract ones.
He couldn't say what contracts where being given out because HR decide apparently.
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Hopefully after all this it's permanent and not temporary!! Although they may still keep you on at the end but it's not really what any of us want. Especially if like me you leaving a job you've been in for 20 years!!
I would have thought anybody offered a temp contract would have said, fingers crossed buddy and a contract would be nice about now don't you think!!
Where and when was your assessment?
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Nice one.
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Yeah I was a bit taken back when he mentioned it, He did says 95% of temp guys stay on as they invest so much money in the new starters but they just dont like keeping all there eggs in one basket.. either way have to wait and see lol
I had mine in merthyr tydfil, South wales on 2nd of November what about you?
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I did mine in Essex on the 2nd and temp contacts weren't mentioned so this may just be in your area if at all!
I'm recruiting for the Norfolk area!
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Excellent news mate! Bet your buzzing! Out of curiosity when did you do your assessment?
Also thanks to Dylan79 for the info, much appreciated!
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Done my assessment on the 21st of September. So been waiting a while. As for the contract length, I can't seem to find anywhere the length of time it's for. Just says 12 month probation in which they can give you your notice at any time if you don't meet the satisfactory performance.
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Ah okay, I done mine a month after yours so I'll prepare myself for another wait!
If it doesn't state otherswise I would assume it's a permanent contract eh, probation period is to be expected too, we will just need to keep or noses clean lads
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Yeah it was only mentioned during the presentation and he said your more than likely to get a permanent one, but its something he had to let us know.
Probation period is standard like you say keep your nose clean and "go the extra mile"
I had mine in November its only been a few weeks but feels ages already!
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Hi thought id register to join in with this epic thread, I passed my assessment in birmingham 9th of nov (am) and got the email from laura on the 17th saying to hang on for start dates.
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Congratz! not long after me (Had mine on the 2nd), sounds like the October/November intake will be getting start dates in the next couple of weeks fingers crossed.
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The waiting is starting to get boring.
I wonder if they're ploughing through them according to when the interviews were as these I believe were set up by areas of employment. As there were 4-5 from my area on the interviews held on my batch.
its starting to feel like next week for the next batch to hear was hoping to maybe quit and get Christmas off!!
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do you think it would be good to do the disclosure scotland now and get it out of the way?
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I did think that but I think there are 3 different levels if check so didn't do it plus we could be put in for a start date in march so no gain if that is the case. Others on here state it only takes a week to get back, anyway references may be the time taker for some people.
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I think they must be doing it in order of the date people where interviewed, that's what I can gather from what other are saying. I was hoping to give my notice early december and start the new job early January.
either way its hard waiting haha never checked my emails so much!
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I thought the same about how they are ploughing through the candidates! The only ones to be told a start date so far appear to be those in September sift!
We still may have the weekend yet as it looks like they are awaiting response from those told their start date first as otherwise we would have something to occupy our minds rather than just checking our emails. At least this forum gives us something to do and appears to disclose more information than we have been told by Openreach.
Looking at the e-mail we received on the 14th stating hearing within a couple of weeks gives them till possibly the 30th before getting a date unless they have a different definition of a couple of weeks!
The wait continues!!
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Indeed its good to know we are not alone and the updates from various people help! glad I found this thread or I would be going loopy !
I dont think we will hear anything this week now like you said hopefully next week like the email said.
Ill probally drop Laura an email an email if I haven't heard anything by the first!
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Yep this forum is a life saver! If we both get to Yarnfield on the January 9th course I'll buy you a pint!
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Welcome to the madhouse mckeo5514
I asked the question about the disclosure Scotland once I got my email saying I had passed and was told to wait until the pre employment checks.
As you guys say this forum has been a lifesaver, been checking here for any movement and emails on a daily basis
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I agree, good resource for any one applying or waiting confirmation.
id imagine we would hear before Christmas
I've been reading through the other forum that was mentioned on here and it was quite off putting. Had to tell myself it has to be better than my old job surely. My previous manager was very hard work. No talking etc, old school type.
Anyone know anyone working the job that can shed positive light on the stats side of things?
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It seems a lot of people on there are old timers that are not adjusting to the the new changes.
the thing is these days your always going to have an [censored] manager somewhere within a company. if you get your head down and show you can graft you'll get on fine from what I have read!
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Likewise mate fingers crossed for the 9th!
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Yeah I did get that from reading through various posts. Some of them seemed quite positive about encouraging. I've been fortunate to have good manager that recognised my hard working ethos.
I was able to look past the negative and look at it from the don't want to pass and regret angle it as I've always wanted to do this job. Taking it all with a pinch of salt  make my own mind up on the job once we start
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The wait is killing me now..
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Agreed.
The waiting is very frustrating.
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Does everyone else's online job page say status is pending feedback?
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Yes same here
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mine says nothing. i didnt dven have a current application. i applied 20 months ago and there were no jobs in my area then. hope something apears on it soon.
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Yeah mate, mines has said that since the 17th October. This waiting about isn't good, just glad I'm quite patient although truth be told it's wearing thin
Think Laura might be on holiday. I did want to send an email to check but decided to just sit tight
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Where is this porthole on your application status? I remember signing up about 10 months ago but can't find out where it is!
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Glad its not just me then, I havent emailed Laura at all yet so I may drop her an email next week as she said "I should hear something in a couple of weeks"
Thats the site I have been using to log in!
https://bt.taleo.net/careersection/external/moresear...
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Thanks for that!
Mine says pending feedback from interview as well!
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worried now as mine says nothing at all as i have no application
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I'm sure you will be okay mate, you said you have had an email saying you passed right?
Maybe the wait is the final part of the test, how much do you want it
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I wouldn't worry mate, you had yours 20 months ago and I guess the application platform goes through a cleanse and that's why you can't see anything.
As you had an email dont let it worry you
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Well they have stats for just about everything going and lots of so called managers who spend (waste) a lot of time looking at them.Just make sure you are were you are ment to be and leave home ontime .This is on the CSE side , other sides can be a lot better.
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Thanks for the info mate. I'm the sort of person who is early for appointments and arriving at my current work place. So don't see that side being an issue for me
Any other tips at all buddy?
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Get some good thermal longjohns ! And how to take a P by the side of your van. And make the best of your budding as its one thing doing it in a class room and doing it for real.
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I intend on making the most of the buddying I had thought about something to insulate in this cold weather.
Thanks for the info mate, really appreciate it and i'm sure others will find it useful too.
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thats my christmas presents sorted then flask, long johns and gloves
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My thoughts exactly! Best get our letters to santa to ask for word on the training dates soon
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You will find there is very little work you can do wearing gloves , best to use them sad ones with the tops of the fingers cut off.Good news is you can get them as part of your works clothing as well as some very good Gore-Tex waterproofs.If doing U/G work its worth buying a big fishing umbrella , we are not ment to use them put it's the best thing for the job.
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I had my assessment centre 15/11 and found out I'd successfully passed, however, was awaiting positions in my area. I have worked for BT before. Left 2009. Biggest mistake of my life!
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BothLegsDis , was that your name on the old OR works chat room ? Was good before they made you use your real ID on it.
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Forgot about that, it was great! No I was Bart Man on that
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All of these people don't yet know what a mc31 or both legs dis is
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Now days most dont know how to take a HS joint off !
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I've still got all my training handouts for Working in the D-Side Network from epeopleserve
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You will find the new clip joints are a lot easier to put on then the old HS ones .
these comments are my own and in no way represent any company that i may or may not be linked too.
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Watch out when undoing the clips cos there's nothing worse than getting your cold fingers hit by a clip. I used to always use a screwdriver number 2
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Have we got to that age we're actually asking Santa for clothes for Christmas?
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Deffo thermal vests/longjohns. And keep a clean dry towel in the van. Nowt better after working in the lashing rain/sleet/snow to be able to dry your face... Oh and a slurp of coffee from the flask
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A pot to pee in?
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You used to get issued a bucket and bailer. The bailer was like a small wok. It was for removing water out of jointboxes. Most people would also use the bailer for having a pee in if you had to nip in the back of the van ��
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The bailer was like a small wok. It was for removing water out of jointboxes. It's original purpose was to melt lead in for hot plumb joints.
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You used to get issued a bucket and bailer. The bailer was like a small wok. It was for removing water out of jointboxes. Most people would also use the bailer for having a pee in if you had to nip in the back of the van ��
The lid off a MC31 works well so i am told !
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I wouldn't worry mate.
I had an email saying I'd passed but online i some how had two applications. One that says pending feedback the other that says application unsuccessful
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Yep, that's back when Faultsman Jointers has a Tonner with a stove in the back
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I've still got my orange handle Knifes Pocket!
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So have i , but we were ment to hand them all in over 10 years ago ! We are still waiting to be told a way to do the job with out that works for real.
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Remember about 15 years ago if a customer was complaining of slow speeds on their dial up, getting about 5k out of their 56k modem, it would usually mean they were on DACS. Customer Service would look at the billing history for the other customers off that DP. If there weren't loads of 0345, 0845... numbers it meant they didn't use dial up. A DACS rearrangement would be carried out and the customer complaining of slow speeds would be taken off the DACS and would start getting blistering speeds of around 44k
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just had an email from laura confirming that they do have an application on the system.
she said shed get back to me in the new year with training dates this time.
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All this is like a damp squib on bonfire night!
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I bet it's a relief to have confirmation that they have your application mate. Bit of a bummer you'll need to be patient through to the New Year.
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bit of a surprise lol because they said 2 weeks in the last email
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I bet that was a surprise, I guess it's something to look forward to in the new year getting a confirmed date.
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Looks likely to be a March start date then if that's the case better than nothing I suppose!!
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tbh its annoyed me a bit, im not a fan of waiting around, i applied summer 2015 itll be about 2 years by the time i start. cant be too hard to find me an area its not like i live in a unpopulated area i live in the centre of birmingham and the 40 minute drive rule takes in a lot of towns (all the way to yarnfield which is 38 mins away).
I hand in my MPhil thesis on thursday so i thought id timed the job well, i dont wanna sit round unemployed for 4 months.
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Not sure if the training includes the full dropwiring course but if it does you'll enjoy it much more in spring weather rather than winter.
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I agree I have been watching the weather a little bit more than usual!
I find it strange that they have let you jump through all their hoops without a job being available for a few more months especially after a 2 year application process.
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Proper bummer if its March thats ages away! I will email Laura and see if she says anything else.
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yeah i turned down a research job at dstl because i thought bt may be a quicker start
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May not be the case just may be a shortfall in Birmingham area of spaces!!
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This is what I thought too.
I'm hoping that being deep in the Welsh Valleys there'll be less competition for me for places.
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I may be talking [censored] mind you it has been known before!!!
Feel sorry for mckeo5514 it's a bit [censored] really!
Why give you a 2 week window ref a training course date to be told that. Although we may be in the same boat! At least we can sink together!
I'm just hoping to find out this week as I'm meant to put in my leave requests for the Christmas period as I've currently got nothing off, apart from new year weekend as Christmas weekend is my weekend on and I currently work bank holidays!!
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I've booked all of Christmas off in the hope that I wouldn't have to return to work come January. May have to yet. Fingers crossed still
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dont know if the timing is related but bt is about to name a openreach chairman as part of deal with ofcom
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You can never tell!!
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just popped up on news that bt must separate openreach
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So what does that mean to us?
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Good question, not too sure to be honest.
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we wont be working for bt it seems but a separate company
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This may just put a delay on recruitment or could increase it once they know what is happening and what possible changes this could mean!
http://www.itv.com/news/2016-11-29/bt-to-split-from-...
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/nov/29/bt-...
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I asked what was the future of Openreach if they have to split from BT and the guy said you don't need to worry about that! Hoping he's right.
Laura emailed me 13 days ago and today is my last day at work. Got myself a P/T xmas job but after xmas I'm unemployed. Hoping we all hear something very soon. The waiting is killing me!
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I saw briefly BT say this could jeopardise the billions of investment they've put in for future plans. Would that include jobs? Hope my January start date won't be affected now
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It probably won't mean too much of a difference initially as I think it is more to do with where the money goes. Customers like Sky are complaining that Openreach are not investing enough in to the network and are favouring BT customers over them. It's more trying to prove this isn't the case to Ofcom and if it is then more money in to the network would mean more Openreach engineers so a larger recruitment drive.
The government don't want Openreach to be sold off as currently they would have to make up the shortfall in the pension pot as currently this a is quite a few Billion down. This was an agreement the Conservative government made to BT when they decided to privatise it back in the 80's.
I think it's more likely to mean a separate Directors board from BT and an easier more transparent way of showing where the money is going and how quick Openreach fits or repairs phone and broadband lines to prove no favouritism towards BT clients.
The current knock on effect could be a recruitment freeze until the dust cloud settles, maybe a couple of days, but they still need recruits. As this would feature heavily in the publicity campaign against the complaints.
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Hi guys new to the forum, I have been keeping an eye on it since October when I heard the fantastic news that I had passed the assessment centre.
With out doubt the hardest bit of all this is waiting for confirmation of a contract and an area to work in.
Then they throw a spanner in the works with this ofcom situation.
I currently have a temp job until January. Perfect I thought but now I'm not so sure getting pressure to get a more stable job this month could throw my open reach job out the window. Hope they get in touch real quick!!
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Well that's filled me with confidence. I've just received a voicemail from the recruitment team asking for an update on my DBS. So looks like it's still all going ahead with me. Hopefully everyone else finds something out soon. Best of luck
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Good news mate glad things are moving forward for you as it gives us confidence it's business as usual!
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Just had an email from Laura, she said she is still awaiting confirmation of the locations and dates. she said this will not be until the new year
seems like it may be a long wait!
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That's not the news you were waiting for buddy I'm sorry.
I haven't received any email yet hopefully have some contact soon think I'm going slightly mad here!!
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I got that email too
I don't understand how they can have people to assement without knowing if there's going to be a job.
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I didn't get an email yet!!
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My assessment day was only 2 weeks ago and I found out on the Friday I had successfully passed. The wait is killing me so I can't imagine what its like for you guys who have been waiting months!
I wasn't contacted by Laura, it was Margie. She advised that everything has been put on hold. I just guessed they wanted Christmas out the way.
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I called up the recruitment team still no further forward.
Crazy!!!
I'm in Scotland maybe that's why I didn't get the email yet!?!?!🤔
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I haven't received anything yet as well. I'm also in Scotland and had my assessment centre in October.
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Mine October aswell. This is pure torture
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I was also October boys the wait is painful. Reading the other forums it's just the process that they do takes months. Hard to stay positive but hopefully worth the wait.
If none of you have heard this makes it easier for me to deal with.
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looks like new year for most of us
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I'd be happy with a start date right now
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Swanseajack91 did you get an email a couple of weeks ago from Laura saying you'd hear soon or is this the first email from her?
I'm in Somerset, where are you?
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looks like openreach will become just part of bt group with nothing to do with bt provider
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That's how it is now
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I had an email from her 2 weeks ago saying she would update me in a couple of weeks,
so I emailed her on Monday to check and she replied saying she will find out in the new year.
Im in South Wales.
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I don't think anything will happen now until January. We already know the last training of the year has already started and the first of next year has already been sorted. We just need to wait I'm afraid
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oh [censored], I'm unemployed 24 December and the wife is too. we were hoping for a January start date
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That is some seriously bad news.
I contacted Laura today and she confirmed that she wouldn't hear back until the new year.
Sooo sad I'm actively looking for other work as I can't afford to be unemployed in January.
Could be a March start date who knows!, The recruitment process isn't quick that's for sure,
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Laura didn't say that it would be next year but stated this
"I am still awaiting confirmation on the locations of the roles and training dates.."
So I feel she knows very little at the moment glad we weren't all expecting a January start date!!!
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I may have to look for another job too finished my mphil today so no more bursary, cant be sat on my ass till march
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I was hoping for a January start date. I had my assessment 12 Oct in Exeter and passed and been waiting ever since.
Finally received this 16 November:
Thank you for attending the recent interview with Openreach and our apologies for not been in touch with you sooner.
As discussed, you were successful at your interview and we are currently working to try and secure an agreed training start date for you. Please bear with us at this moment, we will be in touch with you within the next couple of weeks.
Full time job finished yesterday, only have p/t temp job until xmas. Feeling really panicked now.
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We all got the same I'm lucky I'm in F/T employment but it has weed on my bonfire a bit but not as much as yours and I'm sure quite a lot of others. Was holding out on my leave till I heard now I have nothing booked over Christmas so am working the lot as it's my weekend on!
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It's not good but I know they did mention 9th Jan to march in my first email so I would like to hope it would be in that time frame. What I have found disappointing is that it's not been formally communicated to people patiently waiting if they know it's not going to be until next year. Let's people fill the gap if they don't have a job until training starts.
I suppose patience is a virtue and I'm lucky to be quite patient.
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Glad you've got your job mate.
Patience don't pay the rent in my case but still hanging on in there!
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I'm the same mate, working through Christmas and new year as was hoping to be working notice period and use my my 4 weeks holiday in the process. Might get a few days at start of new year if I'm lucky but being a small team it's not as easy being in Treasury for holidays.
Suppose every cloud and all that, letting us potentially finish up a little earlier and be paid as if working full period. Down to your employer I suppose if they would allow that.
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Passed my assessment in Birmingham on Nov 9th am too, was told to keep waiting for a start date, then another asking if I wanted my application to remain active! The waiting is driving me mad.
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It seems some have been asked if they still want the application to remain active and some have not.
Who have you been dealing with mate?
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It was Vince to start with, then Laura. Had to double check with them that they still had my application.
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I think I'll just double check tomorrow to put my mind at ease.
Cheers mate
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i havent had one asking if i want it to remain active. just told 2 weeks then after i asked if i actually had an application i got an email saying new year and my application appeared on the taleo site.
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I don't think the two are linked in any way. I had my telephone interview with Margie and was given a date for assessment centre. Couple of days later got email off Laura asking if I still wanted my application to be active and NOT to reply to email if I did. I then had email off Margie confirming assessment centre details. It was as if the two knew nothing about each other?
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I must have done my assessment centre with you on the the 9th. Had an email from Vince since explaining that it may be some time until they have the training sorted, and that it would be between Jan and March.
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where are you from? im the one that was from central birmingham
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Wolves mate. Hoping most of the ones that did it that day got through!
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wonder if the rats guy got in
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I have no idea, he was funny though! 😁
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Hi everyone I had my assessment on 10th November in Oxford got a email the next day to say I passed and awaiting start date called up this week and also got told awaiting finance to sign off, but I guess from the look of this thread there's been many assessments and alot of people to try and get trained up
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There's a course starting on the 9th of January as some have got that as a start date. From what I can understand from others on here it's all to do if there is a vacancy in your area then a suitable course I believe the next course after January may be a March from previous intakes on the previous thread to this. There were assessments in September through till November yours was the last one I've heard about. There was a few from the September assessments who have had the January start date those after appear to all be awaiting finances sign off!
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Im expecting a February start date now to be honest, if we dont get told till the new year I have a months leave at my current place to give so February will be the earliest I can start. From reading around online seems like its just a lengthy process. to be fair they are obviously taking a lot of people on and lots to organise! hope the wait is worth it !
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I'm from Swindon and got told it would be the Swindon area for the job. I'm in same boat though got to give 4 weeks notice so I'm praying I get start date soon
Edited by deleted (Mon 05-Dec-16 10:08:15)
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Well done Kitrky89
Which number did you call up if you don't mind me asking?
cheers mate
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I spoke to Paula one of the BT recruitment advisors that emailed me arranging assessment and she emailed me to let me know I was successful in can private message you her number if you wanna call her?
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that would be great, thanks
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Well, having emailed one of the recruitment team (Laura) this morning, I just received a reply stating that they're hoping to recieve starting dates for training in the new year. So there goes having Christmas off! Haha!
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i emailed vince yesterday he said hed heard nothing yet
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So I guess that means they won't have a date sent to them till the new year which would mean us lot are unlikely to start in january
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wish id known about this before assessment day. it was said there was a job for each of us if we passed. so therefore id assume locations were sorted before we got picked and went to the interviews. so it should be easy enough to load us onto training.
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Im quite deflated about the last several weeks. The initial stages were quite hasty from telephone interview to getting booked to assessment centre. I've not had anything from Laura since the 16th and only going on what others have been told. I had emailed last Friday but never got a response however some others have had emails sent after.
Anyone else had successful contact? I tried the number on the info sent with appointment for assessment day however just rings out. I just would rather be told something than kept in the dark even if it's the news that others have been told.
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I had my assessment day on September 21st, got the passed email on the 22nd and didn't hear a thing until they rung me on the 22nd of November with a start date for January. So I waited 2 months for any kind of contact. So 3 and a half months on between my assessment and start date. Probably doesn't help you but gives you and indication on how long it takes
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Thanks for the reply mate.
Yeah I had a fair idea it would be lengthy, what has frustrated me is if they know people won't get an agreed date just fire then an email. I'm sure it would reduce the emails they receive
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I've emailed Laura as she emailed me 3 weeks ago saying she'd be in contact in a couple of weeks I'll keep you posted.
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I got an email yesterday off Margie advising they were waiting for training dates to be confirmed and Vince would be dealing from 5/1/17.
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did wveryone just get the email off laura saying they were still waiting?
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Hi
We wrote to you a couple of weeks ago with an update on where we are with your application for a role as an Openreach Engineer.
Thank you so much for your patience at this time, and I just wanted to let you know we are still actively working through our recruitment plans for next year. Please bear with us at this moment, we will come back to you with further information once we have it.
Regards
Openreach Recruitment Team
Just had this from Laura, worries me slightly because it sounds like they are deciding weather or not to take any more on than arrange training dates. all we can do is wait!
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Had the same reply myself
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the operative words there is 'recruitment plan'. it seems like they had too many people pass assessments and they dont even know if theres jobs available, ie they assessed us without a recruitment plan.
Im not holding my breath anymore on this and im applying elsewhere, ill just keep this as a possible backup.
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Thats the way I read it the wording is very careful, and it has been up until this point. apart from on the assessment day no job has ever been mentioned!
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I'm not sure what to make of this.
Seems like this is an email that comes before the "I'm sorry there's no positions available" email.
I'm not holding my breath. I'm just fortunate to currently hold a permanent job. Feel very sorry for those that don't
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I had the same email off them today, looks like they held all the assessment centres with no real plan regarding what was going to happen going forward, despite what we were told on the day about jobs being in place. Still not even the slightest mention of a job at the end of all this.
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I read in pervious posts that if there wasn't a job available they were quick at pointing out via email. As we haven't been sent an email of that nature yet it could still look possible that things are being finalised and signed off.
Only other option is that someone's made a big mistake on a national level with recruitment. I can't see all our areas not having at least 1 of us to get a job start date.
I mentioned before that Vince said at assessment centre that there was a job for each and everyone of us and said we'd not have been at assessment centre otherwise. There was a joke about not having to fight each other for the job in the carpark.
Vince did mention about getting sign off from Finance before training could be confirmed, and had hoped it to be in December but couldn't guarantee.
Hope this helps give some positive thoughts on this situation.
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Thanks
I think your post will reassure a great deal of people on here! With large companies everything is held up by the finance guys as the training and issuing of kit is quite an outlay especially if there is 50 of us!
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Chin up guys. We ain't had a no like some have so look on the positive. The waiting game is hard going but let's all look forward to a bit of good news in the new year hopefully
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To be fair going on what abmis2006 said when I got told they were awaiting finance to sign off she said with every new engineer they get brand new van,tools, uniform then there's paying for all that initial training it is a lot for a company to sign off so I imagine it's not as straight forward and as quick as we would all like
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Big outlay, I imagine getting orders placed at this time of year would naturally delay the process. It's just unfortunate that we are at this time of year.
I don't think the wording of emails helps with how they are interperated but just a formality they have to follow. I had an email from Laura with a question I asked as I'm looking to move but didn't want to move somewhere that would set my application back. She did advise that she couldn't confirm start dates or locations at this time until she receives an update in the new year.
I've taken it from a positive angle that training can't be confirmed until the background stuff has been sorted out.
I know it's deflating but good things come to those who wait as they say. Let's think positively but of course don't put all our eggs in the basket to avoid disappointment should finance not agree signoff. Would likely mean a longer wait. Its cost them money to get us to where we are at, why shell more on fresh applicants.
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In almost every place ive worked finance has to sign off on the vacancy before people are interviewed for it, someone at bt has messed up this process. I.e. what if finance says no?
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Hi everyone.
Been reading through your comments. I applied in april, started training in June and have been out in the field since august.
I know how you all feel with regards the waiting game but don't worry, you will all get your job offers in the end. I absolutely harassed the recruitment team day after day but you just have to wait it out and it will come good in the end.
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" training and issuing of kit is quite an outlay especially if there is 50 of us! "
For someone the size of OR ? I dont think so , maybe a lack of training capability ? As in only so many guys doing the training ? Far more like it i would think.
Still not fair on you guys but thats the way it goes.
these comments are my own and in no way represent any company that i may or may not be linked too.
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I think the training schedule may be changing which means they'll have to arrange where the tutors are going to be and rearrange course dates, venues and accommodation.
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I think the training schedule may be changing which means they'll have to arrange where the tutors are going to be and rearrange course dates, venues and accommodation.
You currently working for openreach ?
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Yes, not long finished my training. The reason why I said that was because some of the tutors mentioned it. For example I had testing in the second week for a few days and then sign off of learning in the 5th week. By the time that came around it was no longer fresh in our heads. Considering this to be a major part of the job it would make sense these kind of things are rearranged. There was some talk of going out on buddying period followed by certain courses rather than 5 weeks of various courses then 3 weeks of buddying and then being let loose on your own.
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How long have you been live and how are you finding it?
Any tips for the new starters as in kit to take etc?
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I've finished my initial 5 weeks training and about to go out on my buddying period. The courses have mostly been good, apart from a couple which were death by powerpoint but they have only lasted a day. All the tutors I have had have been exceptional having all come engineer backgrounds. To be honest its a lot to take in but if you are lucky and get your testers in the second week, like we were meant to you will be able to have a play around familiarise yourself with the menus. You get given a great big folder containing all the information in the courses which you can read through also.
The things I would recommend you taking are thermals. When you are on your drop wiring course it can get really cold at the top of the poles. You tend to feel it more on your legs than your upper body as you are moving quite a bit. Also a pair of leather gloves for when you are putting on clamps (curly wurly) to dropwires. You'll be doing this a lot and the gloves you get given are not suitable for it as they catch and rip. Also your hands will be aching by the end of the week.
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Good insight thanks!
luckily I have a permanent job at the moment, if I didnt I would really be on edge! does seem like it takes 2-3 months from finding out your successful to training. we all just have to play the waiting game!
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I know what you mean luckily i am also in permanent employment but just want to get my training done and get out there, got a email back this morning saying there awaiting confirmation of role locations and training dates and they will be getting a update on this in the new year so I guess we all have a few weeks till we'll hear anything
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2-3 months after being sucessful before they think about offering us a job is bad form. even then it only says in the new year... technically that can mean any time in 2017.
Edited by deleted (Mon 12-Dec-16 14:00:16)
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Thanks for the info it really does help Dylan 79
Mc it said you had edited your comment was that to take out all the expletives?
As I'm starting to develop torrets!! Lol
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Hi mate. I'm due to start my training on the 9th of January. Could you tell me what's involved in the first week at Yarnfield and what I should take with me? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks mate
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You don't need anything apart from some snacks incase you get hungry in the evening. They do have vending machines inside your blocks but I found they were out of order and the nearest shop is a bit of a mission to get to. You have a bar on-site with a pool table but if you get bored of that take a usb with some films on it as the TV's in your room have the capability to playback. Similarly with your accomodation afterwards do the same as they tend to be right out in the sticks.
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First day is and introduction to the company, what they do and what is expected. You'll pick up your uniform on the first day and be expected to wear it the remainder if the week. You'll also meet the union and decide whether or not to sign up. You don't have to feel pressured you can always do this at a later date. You'll do customer service, moving and handling, driver theory and assessment towards the end of the week. You'll also pick up your mobile and laptop. The last day is a coach ride to Magna park to pick up your van, do a few checks and you are off home probably between 2 - 3pm. Most of your other days finish around 4.
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Lastly and I think most importantly, get to know the people who will be in your training group for your 5 weeks training. There should he around 8 of you and its really good when you all get on well and can enjoy each others company in the evenings. Also when you are in class the quicker you do things as a group the quicker your sessions finish. Some people finish tasks quicker than others but theres always the clearing up afterwards and when everyone chips in you'll find you'll get quite a few early finishes.
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Thanks mate, great insight. Sorry if this is really stupid but I'm assuming I'd need to take a suitcase of clothes for the evenings? Did you do any practical stuff in the first week, climbing, wiring etc? I'm waiting for my train times. They said my start date is Monday the 9th 9:00am but I'm like 5 hours away, does that mean I'll be travelling up the day before? It's been bugging me for a while and waiting to find out is annoying so I hope you might know lol. Thanks again.
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no expletives yet lol, after i wrote it i wondered when in the new year it could be and realised it could be anytime. ive applied for a few more jobs in the meantime and tbh i hope the bt job comes soon and its not a sign of things to come, i dont like being treated like a mushroom. i applied mid 2015 and forgot all about it till i got the phonecall, its been that long i cant see it happening.
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You can take some clothes with you to wear in the evening if you like, I did. Some stay in uniform until dinner time and then get changed once back at their rooms, dinner starts at 6pm if I remember rightly. I would'nt take too much stuff as you will have a lot to bring back with you such as your uniform, two pairs of safety boots, hard hat, laptop etc. It all will go in your van but you have to lug all this stuff for when you have to make the journey by coach to pick it up.
Your travel will be arranged so you arrive sometime on Sunday, normally by the evening at latest. Gives you enough time to check in and get yourself something to eat. First week is more introductions, customer service stuff, powerpoint slides. The practical things you will be doing is your driving assessment and also manual handling, which is basically showing you can pick up a box correctly.
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Thanks mate, I'll bear everything you've said in mind. Got my phone call today regarding travel and train tickets. So all systems go!
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Just sent Laura an email asking for an update.
She states she is still awaiting course dates still but stated whilst she was only guessing she is expecting course confirmations in the new year with probably a March start date but stated this was just a guess at best and not to hold her to it.
At least it does give us a clue.
Sorry guys looks like the wait continues.
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Blimey March!!! I hope they let us know as soon as they do so I can give my months notice.
hope the job is worth the wait!
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As with previous threads (and any topic that reaches this size) time to close and ask people to start a part 4 if there is changes in the topic being discussed.
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The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
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