FTTC Hereford

Is there any website i can check to see if BT have worked on or are currently working on installing fibre in my area? Samknows says the RFS date was 01/06/2012 and BT infinity says 30/06/2012. I'm wondering if this date is realistic, and that i'll be able to order it from BT around that date or that's the date they will start working on installing and realistically i'll be looking at the end of the year to get fibre optic.

If you have a BT line (non LLU) then put it your number in here and see what the result is. If not a BT line, you can always try the address checker on the same site.

Edited by deleted (Thu 07-Jun-12 15:38:28)

so far I have seen very little of any Bt openreach vans around here, i live at the college Est and apart from sticking a bit of tubing under ground to hold the fibre nothing have been done.

I am thinking of going for All pay broadband anyway, may not be as fast as fibre, but at least it will be as far away from Bt as possible and no phone line needed.

"Your cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 30th June 2012. Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 75.8Mbps and upstream line speed of 20Mbps."

I am very sceptical however as the previous post mentioned i've hardly seen any BT vans around and there seems to be no planned roadworks. I noticed on another post that people who had the RFS date for FTTC at 30 june 2012 have recently moved from "coming soon" to "accepting orders", i have a feeling i'll be waiting a long time before i can actually order myself the fibre optic.

The issue is that the dates on the BT checker are placeholder dates. Yours will probably jump to the next placeholder date in the near future. Major PITA but at least you're on the rollout list.

Some cabinets have already been done, I've only been casually looking the past few days, and I've seen two that have already been done already. Plus if you google around, you'll see a lot of BT Cabinet work was done in April as the council announced road works. So maybe we're further ahead than you think! Remember, not all cabinets have to be upgraded for it to be released, only 10 so I've heard...

Edited by deleted (Sat 09-Jun-12 18:58:46)

I happened to drive around Hereford earlier, and while I did I kept an eye out for new BT cabinets. I think I spotted 8 or so and I didn't drive round a lot of Hereford.... I think (hope) we're still on track!

Where have you see new ones?

Whilst I have seen some fibre containment going In I've yet to see a new cab anywhere.

I've started a map of cabinets that I remember seeing, colour coded, green as a new box, yellow as an old one. Feel free to add your local cabinets

https://www.google.com/maps/ms?msid=2038197937670145...

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I've started a map of cabinets that I remember seeing, colour coded, green as a new box, yellow as an old one. Feel free to add your local cabinets

https://www.google.com/maps/ms?msid=2038197937670145...

If you want any mapping tips, give us a shout - check my map out for my area, link in my sig.

i was told bye bt that it would all be done end of june ,i live at allensmore and there is 2 cabinets in my postcode one at belmont abbey number 73 annd theres another one which is 2 miles aprt and number 73a wil the both cabs get new ones or wil they just do ther big one at the abbey ?

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I've started a map of cabinets that I remember seeing, colour coded, green as a new box, yellow as an old one. Feel free to add your local cabinets

https://www.google.com/maps/ms?msid=2038197937670145...

Still not seen any, but then I have not really been around much in Hereford these last few weeks.

Seems strange that your map got cabinets at Whitecross, I thought BTOR would concentrate more on postcodes that are a bit further away from the Exchange, since people around that area should be able to get a good speed anyway.

I got a visit on Wednesday from some from All pay, I will have a chat and see where I go from there. TBH, I don't need or want 40megabits and if I was close enough to the exchange to get 10megabits I would stay as I am.

if I can get 10 megabits from all pay, then to be honest that will be fast enough and at least as I said before, i don't have to rely on Bt old copper wire up the street which is to be honest falling apart.

I have seen a few BT vans around the last few days, i just hope it will be ready to order by the end of June. I'm about 600 metres from the exchange, anyone have a rough idea of what speed i'll be looking at? The exchange checker says i'll get 75mb down and 20 up but in reality i'm not sure i will.

I've now plotted 10 new cabinets on the map:
https://www.google.com/maps/ms?msid=2038197937670145...

I heard 10 was the minimum before they'll activate the exchange....

if there is one down the bottom of college road they must have done that on sunday as it was not there Satuday, I got to pop to the Co-op in a bit to get some malt loaf, so I will have a look. but i am pretty sure my cabinet is around Venns lane.

I'm wondering if I've made a few mistakes. I was going off a picture of the cabinets that said it was FTTC, but looking at other pictures of FTTC cabinets, I'm wondering if some of those are. They are similar shapes and colours, but I don't think they are the FTTC cabinets. My bad, feeling a bit pessimistic about this month now...

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I have seen a few BT vans around the last few days, i just hope it will be ready to order by the end of June. I'm about 600 metres from the exchange, anyone have a rough idea of what speed i'll be looking at? The exchange checker says i'll get 75mb down and 20 up but in reality i'm not sure i will.

it don't matter how far you are away from the exchange it is how far you are from the cabinet as the last part is still going over antique BT cables that is falling apart.


One reason why I am looking at All pay, the only thing that may stop me is short term price.

i have to pay £29 for a cease connection from ADSL24, then a £100 connection fee, sure I can pay it monthly, but it is still £100.
The other thing is upload, all pay is 1Megabit, fibre is up to 20 depending on what service you go for.

Pricing per month is not that much different, ADSl24 on a package that would just about do for me is about £29, then phone line rental on top.

All pay is £29 for ten megabits, sure it is not as fast as 30-40 that fibre offers, but then I don't need a phone line either.

sure I could go with one of the larger ISPs like Bt, Talk Talk or sky, but to be honest they are not that much cheaper, but they do have unlimited data and going back to Bt is something I don't want to do and there is no way on this earth that I would touch Talk talk with a barge pole.

The other one is sky and while their broadband is pretty good, their router is not so good and the fibre version is just a ADSL router with a different firmware. also do I really want to support Murdoch?


I got a visit from All pay in the week to have a chat, how many other ISps will do that? so I will see what happens then.

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I'm wondering if I've made a few mistakes. I was going off a picture of the cabinets that said it was FTTC, but looking at other pictures of FTTC cabinets, I'm wondering if some of those are. They are similar shapes and colours, but I don't think they are the FTTC cabinets. My bad, feeling a bit pessimistic about this month now...

I just been for a walk, to get some air and because I needed to get some malt loaf from co-op, Venns lane got nothing and I mean nothing, which is strange as I am sure they had a cabinet on the college road side, maybe I was dreaming, Penn grove got one but no fibre, College Roadby co-op nothing apart from normal cabinet.
Link is to picture I took, just because I can


Who ever is updating that map is getting it wrong.

I said ages ago that knowing Hereford it will be months before it happens.

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I've now plotted 10 new cabinets on the map:
https://www.google.com/maps/ms?msid=2038197937670145...

I heard 10 was the minimum before they'll activate the exchange....

I wouldn't get too excited, if the roll out is anything like ours, we had 10 cabs pretty quickly, but then they need to connect power, ties cables, unblock ducts, blow the fibre in. Some cabinets they've dug up three or four times. Bottom line is my cabinet was installed in February, some a little earlier and a lot in March, and they have only just started enabling them.

My guess is your looking at two to three months at least from when the cabs first appeared.

I just walked passed PCP18 in White Cross Road. It looks like it's recently been re-skinned but only with a standard PCP cabinet, no vents, no FTTC. I' saw them re-skin one down by ASDA last week too, I was expecting it to be a fibre cab, but there too it's just a newer PCP.

Interesting (or not) Cab 18 has a label that says "CCC Cabinet 7/7". No idea what CCC is.

Think the cab status obn the map needs updating to reflect, but it's a great idea, I'll post up the locations of some more cabs in the next few days if you feel like adding them.

Note there are some Cabs even in town itself that are not due to get fibre at this stage..

I should say just to be slightly optomistic, they have actually started work, as I've seen them in three places putting in what i believe to be fibre containment (A49 south of the bridge, Ayelstone hill, and somewhere out on the king acre road). I'm not in hereford much, so I;m not omnipresent.

And now I'm talking to myself.....

To check on any roadworks that might be associated with FTTC installs,. this (although lagging a bit at the moment) is the councils forward list of road-works for the coming week

http://www.herefordshire.gov.uk/transport/road_path_...

i had a visit today from someone from all pay broadband, had a good chat with her and while they don't offer speed at 35megabits for home users at the moment and are not as cheap as Bt, Talk Talk and sky, I think from where i am i be better off with them.

% megabits for around £18, which is faster than what I get now and cheaper, or 10 megabits for £29 and I can get rid of my phone line as well.

the only thing that is holding me back at the moment is the 24 month contract.

i don't need 40megabits, as long as i can watch netfliks, which I do now on my 3.4 megabits connection and browse the net then I am happy.

The £100 install fee is a bit steep mind you.

i will have a think over the next few days, but to be honest the further away from Bt i can get the better

It's all a bit odd... Could they not be bothering with putting them in fttc style cabs? I mean the style isn't massively different from the 'new' looking cabs? This picture, suggests that they can use the new non-fttc cabs http://www.trefor.net/2010/03/18/fttc-thats-about-th...

I've also seen a cab that looks like this (which is supposedly FTTC) up on Holmer roundabout: http://www.andew.entadsl.com/fttc.jpg

So I'm really confused now...

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It's all a bit odd... Could they not be bothering with putting them in fttc style cabs? I mean the style isn't massively different from the 'new' looking cabs? This picture, suggests that they can use the new non-fttc cabs http://www.trefor.net/2010/03/18/fttc-thats-about-th...

I think you may have misinterpreted that web page, the second and third photos are of the inside of an FTTC cab, the reference to copper out is for the individual links to the adjacent phone cab. FTTC cabs are not always located alongside their twins and can be up to 100m away, for example on the other side of a road or around a corner.

The link below shows of all the street furniture, their are many versions of BT pcp's of which the older styles get replaced to the newer version as they are too small.

To have a FTTC service, one of the 3 FTTC cabs below have to be installed next to a existing pcp.

http://www.robertos.me.uk/html/street_cabinets_etc.html

FTTC cabinet types.

Huawei FTTC cab - 288 max
Huawei128
ECI 128

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In reply to a post by brettuk:

It's all a bit odd... Could they not be bothering with putting them in fttc style cabs? I mean the style isn't massively different from the 'new' looking cabs? This picture, suggests that they can use the new non-fttc cabs http://www.trefor.net/2010/03/18/fttc-thats-about-th...

I think you may have misinterpreted that web page, the second and third photos are of the inside of an FTTC cab, the reference to copper out is for the individual links to the adjacent phone cab. FTTC cabs are not always located alongside their twins and can be up to 100m away, for example on the other side of a road or around a corner.

i tell you know there is certainly none around here, the two places i looked at had plenty of room for a Fibre cabinet and there is none.

i thought the Fibre cabs had to have ventilation?

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The link below shows of all the street furniture, their are many versions of BT pcp's of which the older styles get replaced to the newer version as they are too small.

To have a FTTC service, one of the 3 FTTC cabs below have to be installed next to a existing pcp.

http://www.robertos.me.uk/html/street_cabinets_etc.html

FTTC cabinet types.

Huawei FTTC cab - 288 max
Huawei128
ECI 128

Having Huawei involved with this fibre thing puts me off big time to be honest, certainly when it is in my home.

Decided to go with all pay and have wireless broadband now, put it all in motion, hopefully get it done before next month, then goodbye copper wires.

What kind of upload speeds will you be getting with Allpay? The main reason i want to get fibre optic is for the high upload speeds so i can stream games, which requires 2mb for high quality on its own. Anything above 5 would be fine i'd imagine.

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What kind of upload speeds will you be getting with Allpay? The main reason i want to get fibre optic is for the high upload speeds so i can stream games, which requires 2mb for high quality on its own. Anything above 5 would be fine i'd imagine.

It won't be 2Megabits, I think it is about a megabit, not too bothered, if I want to upload something I can do it at night or while I am at work.


why do you want to stream games?

I will send a email as ask.

I mean stream games that i'm playing so people can watch, for high quality you need a high upload speed.

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I mean stream games that i'm playing so people can watch, for high quality you need a high upload speed.

Got a email back yesterday from them annd it said ".......I can confirm that the upload speed is between one and half to two MBs at most times bordering on the two more."



so maybe not what you want, you may be best to wait for fibre. I will try and remember to let you know how fast it is when I get installed.

A week Thursday is install date, I hope so as the next day my ADSL broadband will cease. this is a bit of a risk for me, because if they can't install it I won't have any broadband.
Should not have any problem unless it is blowing a gale and pouring with rain.

hope u can get it ithey should of told you if u are in line view i am on allpay myself got 10mb and 1.5mb up

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hope u can get it ithey should of told you if u are in line view i am on allpay myself got 10mb and 1.5mb up

She said there is little reason why I can't get it, i am less than a mile away from the cathedral.

How do you find it?

Can you also tell me if they use PPoE to connect?

ok good i get 7-10 mb in the day some times it gose down to 4 from the hours from 4 9 but mosty its 7-10 some timnes i get 12 if i am lucky i live at allensmore i was told that they are going to doingh a faster speeds sometime this year so ,i may even get the fifber broadband but the cab is out at the belmmont abbey so i dont think i wil get the full speed has i am 2 .7 miles away form the cab so i may stay with allpay

That is a bit of a variation, if it did that with 5 megabits I would end up going from 1megabit to 6megabits. how far away are you from the access point? Still what you get with all pay will still be better than what you would get with ADSL where you are.

do you have a router or connect straight to the computer?

hiya i get 10 mb and 1.5mb up i am half milie from the access point i conect with ethernet to pc we have 2 internets here at this address so both on 10mb

u need to buy a cable router netgear has they ues netgear for the there broadband why dont u get fibder broadband the speeds are lot faster up to 80 mb

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u need to buy a cable router netgear has they ues netgear for the there broadband why dont u get fibder broadband the speeds are lot faster up to 80 mb

This anonymous thing is confusing, Are you both the same person?

Thanks for the reply/replies.
i did think about Fibre, but Bt seems to be dragging their behind around here and so far nothing seems to have been done.

i don't really need 80Mb/s or 40 for that matter and to be honest that thought of getting away from Bt network pleases me.

As for the router, I can use any cable router I want to, but they will not support it, in other words if I have a problem with the settings in my router I will have to sort it out myself as they only support Belkin or Netgear,.

Fair enough, other ISps willl only support the equipment they give out and i did not use what they give me anyway, prefer to use my own, and for the last 2 years I have been on my own router wise apart from forums like this one.

I am just under a mile from the access point which is on the cathedral, so if all goes wel i should get a pretty decent signal. i am starting at 5 megabits and then after a couple of months I will up to 10 if I need to.

As i said before, I am not too bothered about high speed as long as I can get done what I want to get done.

I did ask before, I will try again , do they use PPoE for connection?

i dont know if they ues PPoE u best of ringthem or asking them when they come round i was told that the fiber broad would be all finished of end of june

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i dont know if they ues PPoE u best of ringthem or asking them when they come round i was told that the fiber broad would be all finished of end of june
yes i am the sam person we got 2 connections

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i dont know if they ues PPoE u best of ringthem or asking them when they come round i was told that the fiber broad would be all finished of end of june
yes i am the sam person we got 2 connections

i will find out, to be honest I can't see it being anything else to be honest. You should know as it would be set up on your router.

I was told today by my neighbours son that he was told by a BT engineer who was sorting out his broadband that it could be Autumn, maybe


why you got two connections?

bt is allways running behide at first we had 10mb and found it wast faster for 3pc 2 xboxs so i got 10mb to my self and the other 10 to the others pcs and xboxes in the house hold

when is allpay going to instaill it for you

Two connections must be expensive, that is almost £60 a month.

All pay is suppose to be installing a week Thursday at 9am, i was going to have it done in the afternoon so I don't disturb my next door neighbours Husband as he will only get home from work a couple of hours before and get to bed, but it should be ok, they should not make that much noise.

The reason I am going for it is because it should offer a better service than what I got now and I have been thinking about it for a while, then when i heard fibre was coming here I thought I would wait and see prices, but to be honest fibre is no cheaper, ok it is faster, but no cheaper.


Just fed up of BT, I know I am not using Bt as such as my ADSL is cable and wireless LLU via ADSl24 and my phone is via first telecom, but they still uses Bt lines.

Nice to support a local company as well.

yeah but i only pay for my own 1 and the other 1 is pald bye my brotherin law

what speed do you get now

Ah, I see,

I get around 3.5-4 at the moment and that is only because I am on a decent network, (cable and wireless) and tweaked my modem as much as I can. that is why my line is a bit unstable because I am running at the lowest SNr I can get away with to get a little bit more speed.


That is only sync speed, soo actual speed is a bit slower and the 4megabits is normally in the day time, at night it is 3.5, which is when I want the speed as I relax after work and watch something on Netflix.

So five megabits as long as it is pretty close to that will do me fine, i may go for ten to start with, not sure yet, it is only another £2.50 a week,

I don't need 30megabits, so even if we did have fibre here it would be a over kill.

did u say is this week u having allpay instailled if so let me know howe it gose

Thursday 9am, just hope the weather is not too bad,

BT Broadband Checker is now showing 30th September for Hereford Infinity, not a surprise unfortunately.

That moves back just by a quarter each time, showing the end of the quarter in which they anticipate go-live. BT's anticipated date for Hereford is August.

i knew that would happen, not bothered to be honest, Thursday if all goes well I will be off wired broadband,

I'm sure others will be interested though - . first wave of cabinet installs scheduled starting this week:

Openreach BT Abbots Mead Road Hereford U73243 Erect BT cabinet Opp. Romsey Drive 29/06/2012
Openreach BT Beattie Avenue Hereford U82015 Erect BT cabinet Jnct. Golden Post 28/06/2012
Openreach BT Belmont Road Sr Hereford U82100 Erect BT cabinet No.205 27/06/2012
Openreach BT Brampton Road Hereford U82141 Erect BT cabinet No.1 28/06/2012
Openreach BT Golden Post Hereford U82009 Erect BT cabinet Jnct. Beattie Avenue 28/06/2012
Openreach BT Hunderton Avenue Hereford U82002 Erect BT cabinet Near roundabout 27/06/2012
Openreach BT Kilpeck Avenue Hereford U82144 Erect BT cabinet Opp. No.27 28/06/2012
Openreach BT Oban Way Hereford U82124 Erect BT cabinet Jnct. Waterfield Road 29/06/2012
Openreach BT Raglan Place Hereford U82145 Erect BT cabinet Jnct.Kilpeck Avenue 28/06/2012
Openreach BT Southolme Road Hereford U73423 Erect BT cabinet Jnct. Eastholme Road 29/06/2012
Openreach BT Stanbrook Road Hereford U73265 Erect BT cabinet Jnct. Oulton Avenue 29/06/2012
Openreach BT Walnut Tree Avenue Hereford U82204 Erect BT cabinet Side of No.108 Ross Road 27/06/2012
Openreach BT Waterfield Road Hereford U82113 Erect BT cabinet Jnct. Oban Way 29/06/2012

and more ducting works

Openreach BT Escley Drive Hereford U82219 BT ducting works Side of No.2 Home Lane 28/06/2012
Openreach BT Hinton Road Hereford U82323 BT ducting works Jnct. Cumbrae Avenue 27/06/2012
Openreach BT Hoarwithy Road Hereford C1261 BT ducting works No.124 26/06/2012
Openreach BT Holme Lacy Road Hereford C1268 BT ducting works No.42 26/06/2012
Openreach BT Holme Lacy Road Hereford C1268 BT ducting works Opp.No.109 26/06/2012
Openreach BT Holme Lacy Road Hereford C1268 BT ducting works No.161 St.Clares 26/06/2012

these are the estimated start dates

thnaks for the infor my cab is number is 73 and there is a 73a so will they upgraded the both or just upgraded the cabel to the 73a one dose any one know

where did u get the datas from

August target date from asking the right person at BT. Cab install data from the council's streetworks spreadsheet which gets updated roughly once a week,

http://www.herefordshire.gov.uk/transport/road_path_...

Notice 3 sets of people pulling stuff and messing in manholes earlier.

Perhaps it's all steam ahead now.

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I'm sure others will be interested though - . first wave of cabinet installs scheduled starting this week:

Never said I was not interested, just not bothered. i am still interested to see if it happens.

Off topic, but I still see from the list that that silly bull is still going to go up in high town.

hiya did allpay come today what speed have u gone for

Anyone seen any cabs starting to be installed? Great to see all the first wave cabs are south side!!!

I've seen ducting works on the A49 yesterday and Holme Lacy Road today. The only cab on the list I would see on my route through is at walnut tree avenue, but nothing happening there yet. There was an open reach van connected to what looked like three sets of fibres from "down a manhole" up the road from there though.

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hiya did allpay come today what speed have u gone for

Up and running, gone for the five megabits for a bit, easy enough to change to the ten. Poor bloke was on the roof in the pouring rain.

Seems ok at the moment, Netflix is certainly better.

Got other problems now with computer, it keeps losing it hard drives and then giving me a bluescreen

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Anyone seen any cabs starting to be installed? Great to see all the first wave cabs are south side!!!

I wonder how many people will go for them? I been chatting to a lot of people that are happy with the speed they are getting and got no intention of paying extra for fibre. Saying that I also know of some people who will pay the extra, but more that will not bother.

BTopenreach is finding it difficult to get people changing to fibre as a lot just don't think the extra cost is worth it.

thats good i could do with 30-60 mb has i down load porn and music alot 10 is ok but more the better i was hereing that allpay going to offer faster sppeds when i dont know on u pc u may have to reinstil win 7

I, as a hardcore gamer/downloaded will definatly be going for fibre, as I'm sure most of the people in hereford who can't achieve speeds of above 2-3mb will.

I will be first in the queue - will take me from 3Mbs to 50Mbs well worth it. Won't be using BT as the ISP though.

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BTopenreach is finding it difficult to get people changing to fibre as a lot just don't think the extra cost is worth it.

Where does this information come from? The cost is not that much more than the "up to" speeds currently used.plus when you consider the set up costs of all pay, the monthly net cost is very similar.

I wish TBB would stop this anonymous thing and force people to register like any other forums, it gets confusing.

anyway, back on topic.


I have seen statements from Bt openreach saying that they are not getting the amount of people going to fibre that they thought would, certain where people have already got a good speed, like what is the point of paying extra if you already got a good speed?

sure if you got a family and lots of devices then it may be worth while. Cost wise it is not the same, it is a extra tenner if you are with Talk Talk, it also cost more with Sky and BT.

If I went to fibre on ADSl24, it would cost me more and I would get less apart from higher speed.

Sure many people will go for fibre because it is faster, but do they really need it? a mate of mine gets 16megabits and deciding if he should go for fibre or not.

i won't be now as I now got a 2 year contract with All pay and to be honest I am happy with what I got, i am further away from BT network and once i get rid of my phone that will be me off any Bt network.

my friend who live bye the court yard get 13-15 but for my other friends who lives on the south side only get 1-3 mb which is [censored] and it cute out all the time one of my friend who lives bbye tescos only get 1 if hes lucky. bye having fiber broadband would makes life lot fun and i am at allensnmore it woild be nice to get a good speed has it wont work not even 1mb

Allensmore is a few miles out, not sure when they will put fibre out there, I know people living all around the city and yes some get good speeds, others get naff speeds, some times it is where they live and other times it is their ISP that is the problem.

example, A mate lives just in Cottrell Street and gets more thean 15 megabits, using Vivaciti on the Cable and wireless network and yet someone around the corner gets 8 with Talk Talk. In thoery they should get a better service as they are closer to the exchange.

My brother around Hunderton gets 4megabits with the post office, or he did, not sure what he will get when they change to Talk Talk equipment. someone else I know that lives pretty close to him gets 2 with Sky.

My next door neighbour gets 1.5 with BT, I had 3.5 with ADSL24 using the Cable and Wireless network.

What Tescos do your friend live by?

Don't get me wrong fibre is a good thing, I am sure many people will go for it, but many will not, certainly not if they got a good ADSL speed as they may feel it is not worth the extra cost.

I admit I am not like a lot of people, most people don't care who supplies their service, other wise there would not be as many people with Sky TV. Myself i just want to get as far away from BT as I can at the moment. i know my phone and my broadband was not with Bt, but their network still comes to my house.

Maybe in a couple of years time I may go for fibre, but hopefully by that time All pay will have faster speeds at prices to compete with fibre. If it was all about money then I would stay as I was as paying £100 to install the broadband, plus other costs for new router did not come lightly I can tell you. also to get 10 megabits it will cost me £29 a month, about the cost of fibre, but I will not be paying line rental so that willl be a good thing.

If you can afford it why wouldn't you get it, I, for one, will be getting it for the faster upload speed, then again I'm probably in the minority since I will be using to stream live footage of gaming and uploading big files (1 gig and up) to servers, for example high definition rendered videos. Sure a lot of people are happy with 15mb but if you can get 60mb download then why not, if it's not a strain on your budget.

he live at belmont

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If you can afford it why wouldn't you get it, I, for one, will be getting it for the faster upload speed, then again I'm probably in the minority since I will be using to stream live footage of gaming and uploading big files (1 gig and up) to servers, for example high definition rendered videos. Sure a lot of people are happy with 15mb but if you can get 60mb download then why not, if it's not a strain on your budget.

Belmont is pretty bad for ADSL, saying that I know of some one who lives in that area and gets around 4 megabits.

The problem is it will be a strain on a lot of peoples budgets, many people are cutting down, I see it at work, customers who used to buy higher quality food are now going for cheaper stuff and even the basic brand, people I know even with pretty good jobs have cut down on things like sky channels and gone for cheaper broadband providers like sky and Talk talk.

You may not think a extra tenner a month will break the bank, but for some it will. it is getting pretty tough out there.

I don't have a great wage coming in, but i am supporting myself and that is it, ok and the cat, so yes i can afford fibre, just don't feel the need for that speed.

sure I know people who will snap up fibre, even my mate who lives in Whitecross and gets 16 megabits says he will look at it.

We will wait and see how long it takes for Bloated Toad to get it up and running.

Bloated Toad?

Is that predictive text for Belmont Road?

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Bloated Toad?

Is that predictive text for Belmont Road?

No, it is the name someone on one of the forums I visit gave to BT.

Latest frm streetworks, not much to see on the ground yet though:

Abbots Mead Road Hereford U73243 Erect BT broadband cabinet Opp. Romsey Drive 29/06/2012 12/07/2012 Belmont
Aylestone Hill Hereford A465 Erect BT broadband cabinet Jnct. Walney Lane 02/07/2012 13/07/2012 Aylestone
Barroll Street Hereford F80000 Erect BT broadband cabinet Jnct. East Street 02/07/2012 13/07/2012 Central
Barton Road Hereford C1189 Erect BT broadband cabinet Jnct. Station Road 30/06/2012 12/07/2012 St.Nicholas
Beattie Avenue Hereford U82015 Erect BT broadband cabinet Jnct. Golden Post 28/06/2012 11/07/2012 Belmont
Belmont Road Hereford A465 Erect BT broadband cabinet Opp. No.32 30/06/2012 12/07/2012 Belmont
Belmont Road Sr Hereford U82100 Erect BT broadband cabinet No.205 27/06/2012 10/07/2012 Belmont
Brampton Road Hereford U82141 Erect BT broadband cabinet No.1 28/06/2012 11/07/2012 Belmont
Chartwell Road Hereford U80215 Erect BT broadband cabinet Jnct. Bodenham Road 06/07/2012 19/07/2012 Tupsley
Church Road Hereford U80129 Erect BT broadband cabinet Nos.15-19 06/07/2012 19/07/2012 Tupsley
Commercial Road Hereford A465 Erect BT broadband cabinet opp. Commercial Hotel 02/07/2012 13/07/2012 Central
Gaol Street Hereford U80012 Erect BT broadband cabinet Shirehall 03/07/2012 16/07/2012 Central
Golden Post Hereford U82009 Erect BT broadband cabinet Jnct. Beattie Avenue 28/06/2012 11/07/2012 Belmont
Gorsty Lane Hereford U80129 Erect BT broadband cabinet Jnct. Sudbury Avenue 05/07/2012 18/07/2012 Tupsley
Gorsty Lane S/R Hereford U80152 Erect BT broadband cabinet No.96 05/07/2012 18/07/2012 Tupsley
Hampton Park Road Hereford B4224 Erect BT broadband cabinet Jnct. Old Eign Hill 05/07/2012 18/07/2012 Tupsley
Hinton Crescent Hereford Erect BT broadband cabinet No.7 02/07/2012 03/07/2012 St.Martins & Hinton
Hunderton Avenue Hereford U82002 Erect BT broadband cabinet Near roundabout 27/06/2012 10/07/2012 Belmont
Kilpeck Avenue Hereford U82144 Erect BT broadband cabinet Opp. No.27 28/06/2012 11/07/2012 Belmont
Kyrle Street Hereford U80200 Erect BT broadband cabinet Jnct. St.Guthlac Street 02/07/2012 13/07/2012 Central
Ledbury Road Hereford A438 Erect BT broadband cabinet No.228 06/07/2012 19/07/2012 Tupsley
Ledbury Road Hereford A438 Erect BT broadband cabinet Opp. Rose and Crown 06/07/2012 19/07/2012 Tupsley
Mill Street Hereford U80023 Erect BT broadband cabinet opp. No.4 03/07/2012 16/07/2012 Central
Nelson Street Hereford U80023 Erect BT broadband cabinet opp. No.1 03/07/2012 16/07/2012 Central
Oban Way Hereford U82124 Erect BT broadband cabinet Jnct. Waterfield Road 29/06/2012 12/07/2012 Belmont
Raglan Place Hereford U82145 Erect BT broadband cabinet Jnct.Kilpeck Avenue 28/06/2012 11/07/2012 Belmont
Ross Road Hereford A49 Erect BT broadband cabinet Opp. No.223 06/07/2012 19/07/2012 St.Martins & Hinton
Southolme Road Hereford U73423 Erect BT broadband cabinet Jnct. Eastholme Road 29/06/2012 12/07/2012 Belmont
St.Owen Street Hereford A438 Erect BT broadband cabinet No.135 03/07/2012 16/07/2012 Central
Stanbrook Road Hereford U73265 Erect BT broadband cabinet Jnct. Oulton Avenue 29/06/2012 12/07/2012 Belmont
Vineyard Road Hereford C1127 Erect BT broadband cabinet No.1 05/07/2012 18/07/2012 Tupsley
Walney Lane Hereford U80225 Erect BT broadband cabinet Jnct. Aylestone Hill 02/07/2012 13/07/2012 Aylestone
Walnut Tree Avenue Hereford U82204 Erect BT broadband cabinet Side of No.108 Ross Road 27/06/2012 10/07/2012 St.Martins & Hinton
Waterfield Road Hereford U82113 Erect BT broadband cabinet Jnct. Oban Way 29/06/2012 12/07/2012 Belmont

it appears only 3 cabs needed planning permssion in hereford, and all were pushed through on the nod a few months ago.

Are those 'Errect BT Broadband Cabinet' entries actually installing the fibre boxes? ..... Now our activation date (original one) has passed are people able to order fibre in Hereford yet?

i have alot of bt vans working on belmont road but no new cabs has yet

Those entries are for actually erecting the Fibre cabs. None started yet though as far as I have seen.

to get fibre, several things need to happen:

excavte and line any damaged ducting (still on-going in areas, hoarwithy road for sure)
fibre containment pulled in to ducts
fibres blown into containment
PCPs re-skinned where they are too small for the tie cable works (seems mostly done)
Power supplyies (some have been done I think)
New Fibre cabs (not seen any yet but the roadworks file implies they are about to start)
tie-cable installations
fibre terminations

there is not set order to the activities, all need to be complete for a cab to be ready.
No you can;t order Fibre yet, Forecast is August for Hererord.

westholme rd belmont cabinets estimated to start fitting FTTC 12th Sept 2012

i may get sky fiber broadband once they have upgraded my cab at the belmont abbey has allpay is not going to increese the speed so have to wait to see sky can give me has its only £20 month but ,dose any one know what spped wil i get if i am 2 miles away from the cab i allso seena theres a anhter one only small one just on the a465 i am guessing that they just upgraded the line to that one ,

2 miles from the cab, that's a long way - are you sure - what does the infinity checker say?

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2 miles from the cab, that's a long way - are you sure - what does the infinity checker say?

its says 1mb but that cant be right can it there 2 cabs 73 and 73a so i am guessing that they will just upgraded the one at belmont abbey and just ugreaded the cablel to the other one

Power being dug to the new cab location on hunderton roundabout.

have a look tomorrow has my brother lives dowen there

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i may get sky fiber broadband once they have upgraded my cab at the belmont abbey has allpay is not going to increese the speed so have to wait to see sky can give me has its only £20 month but ,dose any one know what spped wil i get if i am 2 miles away from the cab i allso seena theres a anhter one only small one just on the a465 i am guessing that they just upgraded the line to that one ,

At some point All pay will have to increase the speed and keep prices to a level at that speed that keeps them competitive, other wise when fibre is up and running they will lose customers.

I know that they are not competing in the same market as fibre at the moment, but in time fibre will be in places like Credenhill.


i know I have only had All Pay since Thursday, so long term I don't know how reliable it is, but i think for me at this moment I have made the right choice, what will happen in two years time is another thing.

The one problem I have with FTTC is that the cables are getting old, would they cope with the speed of fibre and even if they do for a while, will they continue to?


Over different forums I have seen people having different problems with Fibre, with slow speeds, Bt line management, which don't seem to be much better with Fibre than it was with ADSL and unless you go with the larger ISps like Bt, Sky and Talk Talk, there seems to be limits on data use.

i have been reading about that once bt have instailled full fiber to the house then the speeds will be better thats the next stage of the fiber i was told ,i had a email from allpay that they not going to upgreaded the speed so they satayijg at 10 mb at allensmore so i might tey and get fiber broadband and see what speed i will get it be nice to have 20-40mb

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i have been reading about that once bt have instailled full fiber to the house then the speeds will be better thats the next stage of the fiber i was told ,i had a email from allpay that they not going to upgreaded the speed so they satayijg at 10 mb at allensmore so i might tey and get fiber broadband and see what speed i will get it be nice to have 20-40mb

Full fibre is not going to happen around here for many years., Bt will put full fibre where they are going to make the most money from it and it certainly will not be here. i am shocked Bt knows where Hereford is

How far did you say you lived from the cabinet?

All pay may say they are staying at 10 megabit at the moment, but they may change at some point, as i said they may have to if Bt puts FTTC further out.

How long you been with All pay? I got little choice now I got to stay with all pay for 2 years unless their service gets very bad and then I would have a case to leave.

10 megabits will do me to be honest, but everyone is different i suppose.

i drove the other day and its 2 milles from the cab at the belmont abbey but there is a little bye the village hall which is 73a so i am guessing that there will upgreaded the mann cable to the litten one befor it was allpay it was asscess broadband but they couldt do it anymore so allpay tock over so i have been with them for 4 years i had 2mb with asscess bb then went up to 4mb and now 10mb think my contrack ends in dec this year,

what speed can u get from fiber broadbasnd when its ready

I spotted some Openreach vans today at the end of Ledbury Road (near the bottom of Aylestone Hill, by the memorial cross at the traffic lights) and they were definitely running some cables - it's a positive sign!! I can't wait to get fibre here, I used to live in the new apartments by the police station and we got 14.5mbps there on the ADSL24 LLU "Up to 24mbps" service but Ive since moved to Tupsley and we get 1.9mbps here BT Infinity site estimates 45mbps with FTTC, maybe I will be able to start downloading 1080p HD films again without having to wait days to watch them!

u shold of stayed wher eu were u might be geting the full 80-20

I've gone from a 2 bed apartment to a 4 bed detatched house with a garden, so tbh I don't mind putting up with 45mbps for the meantime lol

have seen new cabint going in at hundertion roundabout looks bigger

have seen new cabint going in at hundertion roundabout

Any sign of new cabs at whitecross area?

dont know i wil have loook when i am driving about

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i drove the other day and its 2 milles from the cab at the belmont abbey but there is a little bye the village hall which is 73a so i am guessing that there will upgreaded the mann cable to the litten one befor it was allpay it was asscess broadband but they couldt do it anymore so allpay tock over so i have been with them for 4 years i had 2mb with asscess bb then went up to 4mb and now 10mb think my contrack ends in dec this year,

what speed can u get from fiber broadbasnd when its ready

2 miles is a bit of a distance and you may find that if that is the cab that is being updated then you will net get a great speed.

According to BT I would get around 45megabits, which to be honest compared to others is not that great, i means that 80megabits will not be possible, so once again we get a lower service up here than what others get.

Not that I am that bothered as 45 megabits would suit me if I was going onto fibre, but I would certainly not be with BT.

the problem is if I did go to fibre after the 2 years with all pay,, i would have to get a landline connection, which to be honest I don't want, you would have thought with FTTC that we could have a choice about have a landline connection, it seems even FTTP you still don't have that choice.

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u shold of stayed wher eu were u might be geting the full 80-20

Depends how far away the cabinet is from his old apartment.

i have to wait and see what the bt checher says ,what rourter did u buy for allpay broadband

Yes congrats to Hunderton Road who look like they are first to get their new cab on the rounadbout as someone said, drove past it earlier, shiny full sized (288) Huwaei cab.

Now.....Where's mine?

and me my cabint is number 73 so have to wait i guess

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i have to wait and see what the bt checher says ,what rourter did u buy for allpay broadband

this one

Works well, i know All pay will not support it, but I sort of know what I am doing. One of the installers help me sort out the right setting even if they don't support it.

i got it as a extension to my ADSl modem/router as I could turn the router part of my Netgear and if I got fibre later on it would work with that, but then I decided to go for All pay.

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Yes congrats to Hunderton Road who look like they are first to get their new cab on the rounadbout as someone said, drove past it earlier, shiny full sized (288) cab.

Now.....Where's mine?

yuk,Huwaei, makes me glad I am not going for fibre, Bt also uses Huwaei modems, i don't trust that company, they are the ones that Talk Talk uses for their so called home safe, the one that follows you around and then send it to Huwaei , no doubt in china.

i had a belkin one work for bit but i then brought netgear one and since then its all fine

I was a little sad and made a slight detour to the first FTTC cabinet in Hereford:

http://cl.ly/471s192v3a2A1B0l0D44

I've also updated the Google Map so it's now correct... https://www.google.com/maps/ms?msid=2038197937670145...

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i had a belkin one work for bit but i then brought netgear one and since then its all fine

I hate Belkin, all pay will supply belkins or Netgears. I know many people who have had Belkins, i even borrowed one myself a few years back and had nothing but problems.

Netgears are ok, my old ADSl router is a netgear 834Gt and is a great little bit of kit, I also got a newer netgear, which was ok, but not as good as the 834GT.

I know got a few ADSL routers that i doubt will ever be used again, saying that I could give one to my brother, never thought of that, he could have the thomson.

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I was a little sad and made a slight detour to the first FTTC cabinet in Hereford:

http://cl.ly/471s192v3a2A1B0l0D44

I've also updated the Google Map so it's now correct... https://www.google.com/maps/ms?msid=2038197937670145...

where is that? i see the map still got college road as having a fibre cab, still not one here.

u beat me to iit i just gone out to take apic

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In reply to a post by brettuk:

I was a little sad and made a slight detour to the first FTTC cabinet in Hereford:

http://cl.ly/471s192v3a2A1B0l0D44

I've also updated the Google Map so it's now correct... https://www.google.com/maps/ms?msid=2038197937670145...

where is that? i see the map still got college road as having a fibre cab, still not one here.

It's Hunderton Road. I've made the college road one yellow, to show theres a cabinet there, but not yet FTTC

you beat me to it i just got back form taking a pic

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It's Hunderton Road. I've made the college road one yellow, to show theres a cabinet there, but not yet FTTC

i realised that after i posted the last message, I tend not to use Google Maps that often and stay on it for as little time as i can.

so is that the only cab that been started in the city at the moment?

i don't think the one on college road will be done for ages. Bt better hope it pays off, I presume a lot of people around here will go for it, but it depends if they want to pay the extra.

Myself, i made my bed now and i have to lie in it for 2 years, but i am not bothered, i will have a slower speed but will be far away from BT.

i can't wait for Talk Talk to come around again like they do and they will come around again once we get fibre. i will show them my little module on the roof and tell them that is how I get my broadband and no phone line needed or required to do it.

It's the only one anyone has spotted so far. Based on streetworks belmont road by the oval and the A49 end of walnut tree avenue are likey to be next. I expect it will ramp up when more teams are available from the Q2 deployments. Don't get too excited, they have to blow in fibres yet etc.

I saw them at the top of Vineyard Road/Old Eign Hill this morning running more cables, and the streetworks said that they would be doing the cab this week. How long roughly do you think it might be from the cabs going up to the lines becoming active?

what are they going to do with the old cabints then once the new ones are working

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I saw them at the top of Vineyard Road/Old Eign Hill this morning running more cables, and the streetworks said that they would be doing the cab this week. How long roughly do you think it might be from the cabs going up to the lines becoming active?

Round my way it's not less than 2 months and there's one that was put in in the middle of Jan and it only went live last week. It's difficult set a timescale because of the all the other work involved such as getting power connected to it which seems to be one of the biggest causes of delays.

Six to eight weeks before anything goes live. The old cabs stay, they keep the connections to houses. The new fibre cabs are conne Ted to them with tie pairs under ground

just seen anther 3 more new cabints going in at putson

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what are they going to do with the old cabints then once the new ones are working

Nothing as it is fibre to the cabinet, so the fibre goes to the cabinet and then the signal comes to your house via the copper wire. just think of the new cabinets being like a small exchange but without the voice stuff.
Old cabinets are also still required for voice use

They have stated on Beattie avenue and Walnut Tree Avenue

i saw that and they have put 3 new ones in at putson

Don't get too excited, it could still take months .

as i have said before,I know someone who had a fibre cab down the bottom of his road for over 6 months before they switch it on even and then they took another couple of months before they started to accept orders for it.

Not in Hereford mind you

Updated the map with many new cabs, 104 in total.
If you see any new ones going up please update the map...
https://www.google.com/maps/ms?msid=2038197937670145...

Cab for Walnut Tree avenue/A49 junction was being offloaded fromt he van at 9am today.

looks like they doing the south side first then good ohh i was told that cab 73-a is onlya dummmy my line is conected at the belmont abbey one is cab 73 .and i was told that there will just upgraded the cabel from 73 to 73a i wil ask one of the bt guys today i think

Some north side cabs in te latest streetworks today too.

And

YAHOOO mycab is no listed

http://www.herefordshire.gov.uk/transport/road_path_...

No that I'm excited you understand.

that shoulw say my cab is NOW listed

Fair play! You've really done a lot of work!

college road is as well, suppose to start tomorrow, I wonder if they will.

The only thing i am not looking forward to is Talk Talk doing their rounds again lying to people to get them to sign up. We might even have Sky come around, but I only seen them come round the houses once, Tal;k Talk seems to do it all the time.

Oh yes and all the leaflets Bt will stick through my door, more rubbish for landfill

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Oh yes and all the leaflets Bt will stick through my door, more rubbish for landfill

Blimey, haven't they invented recycling around your way yet?

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In reply to a post by zyborg47:

Oh yes and all the leaflets Bt will stick through my door, more rubbish for landfill

Blimey, haven't they invented recycling around your way yet?

I been told they have, they send me clear bags now and again to stick newspapers, tins and plastic stuff in, but it is easier to stick it all in one black bag and since we now have to pay for our own black bags i may as well make the most of it.

how many cabints is there in hfd then

Seen a lot of work being done around town today as i drove around, the cab on whitecross road opposite the whitecross fish and chip shop is being put in today by the looks of it

it be done bye the end of sept then so we can start to order it in oct

It could be a month sooner than that

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how many cabints is there in hfd then

a lot.

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Seen a lot of work being done around town today as i drove around, the cab on whitecross road opposite the whitecross fish and chip shop is being put in today by the looks of it

suppose to have started in college Road, still nothing,

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It could be a month sooner than that

it could also be six months after.

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In reply to a post by Anonymous:

It could be a month sooner than that

it could also be six months after.

Not according to someone from BT who is in the know. The target date is end of August.

thats good news then

Cab 73 at allensmore are is in the schedule to be done, if it does happen will make massive speed increases int that area.

i am at allenmore cant wait to have it on allpay at the month and they said they are not going to to increaced there broadband speed so once they upgreaded my cab i wil be go to sky broadband do u kmow what spped i wi; get if i am 2 milles from the cab i get 10 mb with allapy but its never up to 10 mainy get 5-7 some times 10

See what the infifitny checker says, put your telephone number in, not you postcode, it will give you a guide:

Grey box 1/3 of the way doen the page:

http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/consumerProduc...

Lots og BT activity around hereford the last couple of days!

it says 100 kbs

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it says 100 kbs

my cabinet is to have fttc by the 30 of september our test indicates that my line supports a fiber broadband of 100kbs down and 100kbs up

Nearly 10 cabs installed. If they have the fibres in for them perhaps it won't be so long until the exchange goes live. That's quite a different position to where we were a couple of weeks ago.

only anther 90 to go

They don't have to be all done for the exchange to go live.

Latest Streetworks

http://www.herefordshire.gov.uk/transport/road_path_...

Looks like the next push is Three Elms with ducting and Cabinet entries.

also Ayelstone hill, burghill and a few other new entires.

question is i have seen the map of the cabints and there loads of red one are going to be done why is this

sorry not going to be done why is this ?

Complicated formula BT use. there is some discussion in other threads.

I can see one or two that are probably oversights, or might need ducting sorted. A lot seem to be in proximity of industrail estates. One might surmise this is a revenue protection exercise to avoid businesses ceasing profitable leased lines, but that is just conjecture.

Western Power power distribution been at a number of the cabs today.

Also Openreach/Telent people pulling Fibres under whitecross road near Aldi.

Contractors making a mess at the College road cabinet today, i have no idea if they are Bloated Toad contractors or Weston power as the vans was plain, they could have been planting a bomb in there for all I know.

what do think what speed i wil get if i am 2 miles away form the cabmint my phone is conected to cab 73 and theres a cab 73a so will i getbmore then 10mb

2 miles is a long way for VDSL. it's likely to be less than 15Mb I guess, there are other threads you will be able to get a better guess from. I guess there is always regular ADSL2 broadband "with fibrre" option otherwise. There are comments about is elsewhere.

right but i was tsalking to one of the ex bt guy and he said what they wil do is upgreaded the cabel from cam 73-73a

Ypu will have to keep your fingers crossed and wait and see.

i wll do just keep on looking

there is a fibre cabinet installed at whitecoss near the chip shop ,its all finished , dunno if the internals dont get put in yet

It's already marked up on the map. Fibres went to it the other day I believe.

Don't know what they did in my cab yesterday, but long may it last. Sync dropped maybe 4 or 5 times yesterday and now my adsl is syncing 1/2Mb faster than anytime in the last several years. Fibre fringe benefit

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what do think what speed i wil get if i am 2 miles away form the cabmint my phone is conected to cab 73 and theres a cab 73a so will i getbmore then 10mb

2 miles is a bit of a distance, the problem is some providers will nto give you fibre if you can't get more than 15Mb/s

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Don't know what they did in my cab yesterday, but long may it last. Sync dropped maybe 4 or 5 times yesterday and now my adsl is syncing 1/2Mb faster than anytime in the last several years. Fibre fringe benefit

Nah, if your router disconnected a few times then Bt awful profiling system comes into play and may stick you on a higher sync until it realises that it causes problems and then stick you back to where you was.

I used to have that problem with BT profiling, one of the reason why i did not want to go onto fibre

I dont have a banded profile, sync wanders freely, I have graphs for several years, I think maybe they got water in my connections and it's making a better connection than the copper lol.

I saw a Western Power van at the FTTC Cabinet on Holmer Roundabout at 8:30 this morning... glad to see things are progressing well! From what I heard on other FTTC forums, getting the power comps to install power is often one of those things that causes delays, but that doesn't seem to be the case here!

BT Openreach van outside cab 25 on Church Road (Tupsley) this morning and an engineer doing something inside the cab - hopefully it's fibre related!

Saw an Openreach guy working inside the newly installed Cab at Holmer Roundabout this morning, and about 5 Western Power vans and quite a few people at the New Cab round the corner on the A49 towards Leominster!

Well on track, whitecross has all been done by the looks of it, re-sealed the pavement after the new cab was installed along with the fibre and western power, who were there for a day or two. Looks like we could be looking at the end of august after all

Just took a walk past the cab on Grandstand road (top end near co-op) and ducting work has gone on there but no new cab yet.

Many of the cabs already in place seem to be finsihed, in that the tie-ducts are tarmaced and the barriers are gone. perhaps this really qucik push was to get to the threshold when the exchange can be decalred live. Can someone confirm I recall reading they need 10 cabs to do so?

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I dont have a banded profile, sync wanders freely, I have graphs for several years, I think maybe they got water in my connections and it's making a better connection than the copper lol.

Lucky you I think, I suffered for a few years with Bt profiling, solved the problem when I went to ADSl24 and the cable and wireless network..

This is one of the reasons i was not really that bothered about going for fibre, not until Bt sorts out their profiling system, which even on fibre people still seems to have problems with. It is Bt after all, can't expect much else from the useless company


As you can tell, I am not a fan of BT, i don't know who is worse, Bt or Talk Talk.

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Many of the cabs already in place seem to be finsihed, in that the tie-ducts are tarmaced and the barriers are gone. perhaps this really qucik push was to get to the threshold when the exchange can be decalred live. Can someone confirm I recall reading they need 10 cabs to do so?

The 10 CAB story is an urban myth like so many other aspects of the FTTC roll-out.

Logically for an exchange to be accepting orders (which may not be the same as "ready for service" or the OpenReach Twitter posttng "High speed broadband is starting to be availabile at xxxxxx"") there needs to be one CAB live.

One of the BT resellers (ASDL24?) has posted on TBB that they know of at least one case where an exchange went live with only 2 CABs and some small exchanges have less than 10 CABs!

Obviously many facts determine the date of go-live - very few of which are available to us!

The cab at Holmer Roundabout was being finished at 6:30pm as I was going past, it was being retarmaced and looks like it's now complete. Making extremely fast progress here in Hereford, I'm very impressed. I'm connected to one of two cabs (both of which are due to be upgraded). One is the cabinet near the Co-Op in three elms which has just started having the ducting done (70% of lines of my postcode come from this), and the other is on kempton avenue which hasn't been started yet.

The (presumed) finished cab at Whitecross Road: http://cl.ly/image/0T2m3F3y0H3m

Kempton ave cab is mine too

Up to 13 cabs recorded now

http://tinyurl.com/hereford-fttc

The one by the Co-op in college road is now in place, still got barriers around it.
They are big ugly things, i feel sorry for the poor people who have them outside their house.

The one down here is against the same hedge as the original, so the poor people who live there have to get past two cabs to get their hedge cut.
I bet they are not happy, saying that if they want Fibre, they should get a great speed.


All Pay is going to expand their bandwidth, which while it will not be 30megabits, it should allow people to get the speed they want most of the time, which is great for people who can't get broadband at all never mind fibre and for people like myself who don't want fibre.

Still dreading the reps from Tallk Talk coming around the doors once fibre is up and running, maybe I should put a note on the door, no telecom reps and that includes Talk Talk.

i see allpay doing 35mb but i dont know what to do wait for the fiber broadband to get out here or stay with allpay ,my question is how mfast can i get with fiber when it is live so i may just wait to i know what spped can sky offer me

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i see allpay doing 35mb but i dont know what to do wait for the fiber broadband to get out here or stay with allpay ,my question is how mfast can i get with fiber when it is live so i may just wait to i know what spped can sky offer me

i just seen that on Facebook, not sure how much they would charge for that, i would only pay another fiver.

They do need to update their bandwidth, while I am happy with the service for the most part it can slow down. i was put onto the 10 megabits last night until today just to try something out and while things was faster, I never did get up to ten megabits or any where near.

i was talking to a engineer and he was saying that speedtest are not all they crack up to be, which to a certain degree i know what he means. I done some speed tests last night and I got around two megabits, But when I used netflix not long after I was getting extra high HD, i never knew Netflix went that high

so speedtests must be incorrect.

I must say one thing about Allpay, customer service is great, i had a phone call yesterday and he phoned up again today. i am back to five megabits now, going to wait middle of next month when they update the bandwidth.

they need to now as they have a fair few people on the network now, if the customer reference is anything to go by then i was the 395th person to go onto their network.


What you do is up to you at the end of the day, but sky may not even take you on for FTTC if you are too far away. If I was in your shoes I would wait until the end of next month and see what upgrades All pay do, i think these upgrades and if you are right about them offering 35 megabits to home users, then it could be because of BT FTTC coming here, they got to compete.

i got two years contract with All pay, so unless their service is really bad, which to be honest it is not, I got until then to decide if I will go fibre or not, but I can't see it to be honest unless things in my life changes.

Allpay are a lot more expensive overall though for slower speed. Sure they're great if you have no other options, but I'd wait for fibre, personally.

With a name like "All Pay" it should be expensive

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Allpay are a lot more expensive overall though for slower speed. Sure they're great if you have no other options, but I'd wait for fibre, personally.

But you don't need a fixedhone line!

Younger generation don't use them do they!

Don't thnk the wait will be too long, we are up to 16 cabs spotted now.

think i will walt to see what sky can give me once they have finish of doing the cabs

Grandstand road cab (near Connaught Place) installed and ducting seemingly completed .... Groundworks still open tho.

The one at the other end of colledge rd is in place too.

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Allpay are a lot more expensive overall though for slower speed. Sure they're great if you have no other options, but I'd wait for fibre, personally.

Depends on what you mean by expensive and where you are. with the ISp i was with before All pay i was paying over £19 a month for a 3megabit service at best, not the fault of the ISp, just the way ADSL works. i now get a 5 megabit service for less, i can update that to 10 megabit for another tenner a month.

Also don't forget I am now not paying £12-£14 a month on top for a phone line and phone service that I hardly use.

Sure I could have waited for fibre and with the ISp i could stay at the same price of just under £20 a month, but their service only have a 15Gb usage in peak times, to get more usage I would have to pay more and I would still have to pay for a phone line on top.

Ok if I went for sky, Bt or the dreaded Talk Talk I could it a bit cheaper , but again I would still be paying more than I am paying with All pay because I would still be paying for a phone service.

Also not being funny, but why do I need 40 Mb/s for? i bet a lot of people who get fibre will never use it full bandwidth, it is fine if you got a family with multiple computers and devices, but most people don't need 40 mb/s

We will see how well they do, but as been said before, Bt is having a hard time in some places getting people onto fibre as they are happy with what they got.

I am not saying i will never go for fibre, you never know what happens in the future, I got a 2 year contract with all pay, which i was a bit worried about, but two years will go quick, i never realised I was with my last ISp for over 2 years.


The other reason why I don't want fibre at the moment is because I like the idea of being away from Bt network, be it phone or broadband, I hate Bt with a vengeance and the thought of paying them money directly or indirectly fills me with horror.
Talk Talk is no better either, both are useless.

i understand but i downlaod laods i ahve allready download 70gb with allpay this month if i had the monry i like to have a 1gb lease line but hay loads of dosh

Up to 17 Cabs now, a little over 20% of the planned roll-out for Hereford. There are probably more no one has noticed yet too.

We may all have a moan about Openreach/BT from time to time, but that's pretty good going considering 3 weeks ago we were disappointed nothing had happened.

Noticed a new cab on Yazor Road today, marked it on the map

so the red ones on the map whats happing to them then

Means BT have no plans to upgrade them, so nothing, at least for a year or two

We could do with adsl24 our someone else in the know to update the red cabs with April2012 data.

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i understand but i downlaod laods i ahve allready download 70gb with allpay this month if i had the monry i like to have a 1gb lease line but hay loads of dosh

How do you store 70GB of data a month unless you are streaming and that is still a fair bit? if you do that every month that adds up to a lot of storage.

i have no idea how much I downloaded this month, but it must be a fair bit,

distance from cab to house and the speed you will get, if you are the one that lives two mile from the cab.

think broadband got a guide here.

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How do you store 70GB of data a month unless you are streaming and that is still a fair bit?

Why store? Watch it. Delete it. Gone.

thanks for that

i have paid 20 for it so keeping my porn videos my self

i dont download evey month i got 5 hds 1 2tb and 4 500gb could do with 6*3tb hdd and a server

it looks like i wil be geting between 30-40mb so should be faster and chelper then allpay iknow allpay will offer 35 mb but i am guessing theyt wont more then i am paying now which is 30 so i can get fiber with sky for 20 a month

19 Cabs now spotted

http://tinyurl.com/hereford-fttc

I've fixed the locations of a couple of cabs that had been moved presumably by accident. I've take PCP E12 out of the river wye and put it behing the church in bewell street as I *think* that is where it is to be found.

The cab on be well street is next to Nero I believe.

hello again it looks like i get 30-40 mb i am 5 km away form the cab at belmont abbey cording to the guide am i right saying that i wil get 30-40mb ?

Whats your postcode?

hr2 9bp

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hello again it looks like i get 30-40 mb i am 5 km away form the cab at belmont abbey cording to the guide am i right saying that i wil get 30-40mb ?

if you are five kilometres away that is 5000 metres, the guide goes to 1500metres which is 15Mb/s. so sadly if you are 5 kilometres, you got a ghost in hells chance of getting fibre.

The one down by the co-op on the College road is still surrounded by barriers and it seems no one been there for days.

looks like i have to stay with allpay and get the 35mb

when are they doing the cab at belmont abbey

I saw one cab being worked on at eight o'clock last night

Cats protection league at that postcode in Allensmore is not in the rollout area according to the infinity checker

i was told a few weeks ago that they wil be doing the cab at belmont abbey and my friend next door to us said he was tiod bye bt that it wil work out here and if i can rember right when i order bt broadband last year it didt work and the bt engineer siad u ahve top wait for the fiber broadband and it wil work then

New streetworks released:

http://www.herefordshire.gov.uk/transport/road_path_...

Kempton Avenue still not on there

I've started marking a new type (yellow with a dot) to signify ones that are mentioned in the streetworks as starting soon

http://tinyurl.com/hereford-fttc

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Fantastic work on the google mapping, I'm on cab 37 no work started yet, hope my cab will be done soon, I get 6mb at the moment, will get 40/10 with sky, just inpatient and want fibre now

I added 3 more dotted yellows.

Also there a few cabs, for example behind the Oval and on the A465 road near what was the Ship Inn/cross street that were scheduled in the first batch in streetworks but didn't get done. The one by the Ship might have co-incided with the Queens visit perhaps. Just hypothesis I wasn't in Hereford around then.